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Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: medicboy on February 19, 2003, 11:40:42 AM
Did anyone see the show on the History Channel on Sodomy Insane?  

If you can learn the whole truth about this POS and still stand up for his "rights"  you are no better than him.  

Our president (I did vote for him, but I live in califoristan and my vote doesn't count)  said either you are with us or with the terrorist, something for the french and germans to keep in mind.

I wonder if they still have the invasion plans for D-day?
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 19, 2003, 11:48:45 AM
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Originally posted by Oedipus
Please hurry to your nearest recruiter.  Actions speak louder than words.

Oed


Having trouble finding a ticket to Bagdad?  I hear the "Baby Milk Factory" needs a shield or two.
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: Russian on February 19, 2003, 11:55:05 AM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Having trouble finding a ticket to Bagdad?  I hear the "Baby Milk Factory" needs a shield or two.

LOL
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: Vermillion on February 19, 2003, 12:15:27 PM
Oedipus, you tend to forget that many of us DID spend time in the military, and backed up our opinons with our service.  Have you?
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: medicboy on February 19, 2003, 12:18:42 PM
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Originally posted by Oedipus
Please hurry to your nearest recruiter. Actions speak louder than words.

Oed
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How old are you?  12?   I have been serving my country for over 10 years now, so stick it in your arse!


What is it about this situation you pantywaste peacefreaks don't get.   You don't even try to understand the reason behind the action all you here is "war"  and acording to what your peacefreak mommy told you that is bad.   Sometimes the right answer is not the popular one.  Maybe when your kids are reading about these times in their history books they can explain to you why it was the right thing to do.  I have a 9 month old boy, I look at him and think:  I hope you never have to face these things.  There will never be peace as long as there are people like Sadom in this world, which means there will never be peace in my lifetime, but I feel we should do whatever it takes to secure peace for future generations.  

    I know this doesn't fit your peace, love and flowers view of the world but someday you will learn the hard way that the world is not a nice place and there are people who will do us harm oneway or another.  That is just life, face it.
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: midnight Target on February 19, 2003, 12:26:35 PM
anti-war does not equal pro-Hussien
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: AKIron on February 19, 2003, 12:32:20 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
anti-war does not equal pro-Hussien


If only that were true.
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: bounder on February 19, 2003, 12:33:32 PM
It is.
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: Fishu on February 19, 2003, 12:34:32 PM
Medicboy,

How much of the problems is caused by the US itself?

If Saddam is so horrible, why isn't those several african and south american dictators then?

For some reason I see US troops "helping", "fightning against evil" and doing pre-emptive operations in naturally rich areas or with some other beneficial things.


...and so, to make the world safer for your boy, by removing a person who hardly is a threat for your country, even less for your boy, you're ready to ruin the lives of comparable families in the other countries. (I surely don't buy an argument that all people in middle east are 'deeth to ameriika' people)


Your speech sounds like something one could expect from a facist, word to word.
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: AKIron on February 19, 2003, 12:35:50 PM
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Originally posted by Fishu
For some reason I see US troops "helping", "fightning against evil" and doing pre-emptive operations in naturally rich areas or with some other beneficial things.
 


Like Somolia? :rolleyes:
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: Udie on February 19, 2003, 12:39:51 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
anti-war does not equal pro-Hussien




 but it helps lead to him staying in power so in that way it does my friend.  I've see that show on the History Channel about SH.  There's one scene I can't get out of my head.  It's when he took power and he convenes the iraqi congress.  He sat at a table by himself smoking a cigar with a big smile on his face.  While another guy was calling out names of people who opposed SH. When their names were called guards came and escorted them out of the chamber to their deaths.  I'm sure that last weekend SH was smoking a cigar with that same smile on his face.

 The marchers have every right to go out and protest, just like I have every right to say that it's totaly disgusting what they did.  They hate Bush so much that they're willing to let a madman stay in power.  From what I saw this weekend, the anti-bush posters outnumbered the anti-war posters 4 to 1 at least. That says something.  They call this bush's war, utter roadkill. what about the other 39 countries that are onboard with us? (at least that's the number I hear on the news)  Where were all these people in 1998 when klinton was lobbing missles at iraq?  BTW anybody notice back then that the "war" started 10 minutes after his impeachment hearings in the house and ended 10 minutes after he was impeache?   Didn't hear a peep from the anti-war crowd then.

 Hypocracy at it's worst.  It would be nice if each and every one of them could take a trip through one of SH's acid shower torture chambers if you ask me or have their muscles ripped off of thier arms and legs like so many Iraqi people have had happen to them.  They are pieces of toejam, especially the french, they of all people should know what it's like to have a dictator in charge.  Ever wonder why eastern Europe is on our side?  They KNOW what it means to have to live under these conditions.  Personaly I wish all the protesters would place themselves in iraq as human shields,  just before the bombing starts.....
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: Monk on February 19, 2003, 12:44:32 PM
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Originally posted by Oedipus
Yes Vermillion. Beiruit and Grenada.  
 Oed
Ahhh , you were in the "Root" and "Nada".
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: medicboy on February 19, 2003, 01:06:39 PM
Quote by fishu:

...and so, to make the world safer for your boy, by removing a person who hardly is a threat for your country, even less for your boy, you're ready to ruin the lives of comparable families in the other countries. (I surely don't buy an argument that all people in middle east are 'deeth to ameriika' people

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Like their lives are peaches and cream today.   Do you think we are going to go in there and kill everyone who moves?

How about giving these people a chance to live without fear of saying the wrong thing and being killed  for it.  

What you are saying is that we should leave poor SH alone because we don't want anyone to die.   In this we have the same goal.  I have seen more than my share of violence and death.  It is just you want some crazy dictator to stay alive and keep torturing and killing his own people and soon bring these great activities to a city near you.  I am interested is saving the lives the innocent through the death of the evil.


And too whoever said the USA only fights for freedom in "rich" areas:  Like we are reaping the rewards of our action in A-stan?
(I'm going to answer my own question because I know that was way over your head)  A:  Yes we are reaping the rewards, like having thousands of people everyday thanking us from freeing them from the taliban.  We  can't get $37 a barrel for it, but it is worth more than that.
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: devious on February 19, 2003, 01:41:42 PM
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Our president (I did vote for him, but I live in califoristan and my vote doesn't count) said either you are with us or with the terrorist, something for the french and germans to keep in mind.


Shoot Saddam anyday.

I just fear the consequences of unilateral war started by the *US*.

As I already said, China, N-Korea, Pakistan, India and a whole bunch of others might get the perfect example that this planet is a Free-For-All-Deathmatch after all.

The UN wasn`t founded to be ignored/step down once it`s getting inconvenient.
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 19, 2003, 01:54:29 PM
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Originally posted by devious

The UN wasn`t founded to be ignored/step down once it`s getting inconvenient.



Would you obey traffic laws if the same police officer pulled you over every morning on the way to work and accepted "I wont do it tomorrow" as good enough?

The UN isnt performing the duties it was designed to.
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: straffo on February 19, 2003, 02:27:52 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Like Somolia? :rolleyes:


Faulty GPS  ?
:D
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: Fishu on February 19, 2003, 03:18:21 PM
AKIron,

So how exactly did Somalia change to better after US visit?


Medicboy,

I hear there was Osama with concentration of Al Qaeda forces..
US didn't give a crap for the people, until a bunch of terrorists, with Al Qaeda links, hijacked the planes and kamikazed at two buildings.

Oh.. and I heard there was plans to make an oil or gas pipe through Afganistan, something which the Taliban regime turned down. :rolleyes:


Yes.. americans sure went there with first priority of overthrowing the Taliban and freeing the people.

It was just an easy target with population that didn't support Taliban for worth a crap and the rebels still being fairly powerful.
So freeing population from the oppressors was just a side product, along with an welcome addition for the propaganda machine and which made operating in afganistan far easier.
so.. zero risk to hunt Osama and the not so merry friends of his... along with possibility to later run a gas/oil pipe through the country. :D
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: Batz on February 19, 2003, 04:19:34 PM
Why do think the US should take care of every problem in the world?

Suddam has threatened US allies in the region and threatens the US now. Thats if you believe the hype. If you dont argue that point.

Saying "well there is a Central Afrikan world lord spearing his neighbor so why isnt the US doing anything" is a stupid arguement.

The US doesnt go around invading every country it has "problems" with. Just the ones where they feel it effects their interests.

Is to hard to comprehend?

Basically, so what if Mabimbo spears Timba, even if the US president wanted to send in troops he coudnt sell that to the rest of the US. They can argue that Suddam, if hes allowed to develope wmd, could use them against the US. This is  an arguement people in the US are willing to believe now because they watched the attacks on the WTC. They also saw in the news the panick and fear created by the anthrax attacks and to some degree the sniper attacks in DC.

As for North Korea its a completely different situation. For one NK has "sabre rattled" before looking to get a better "deal". Secondly, China is in a much better position to aid the US in reaching a conclusion with NK then Iran, Turkey, Kuwait or even Saudi Arabi is in regards to Iraq.

Iraq has had 12 years to decide how to play it cards.

BTW I dont support the invasion of Iraq. I just look at some of the arguements made that are in opposition to the US position and see they are made by mostly idiots.

Theres real reasons not to invade Iraq. The "Bush is like hitler", "American Imperialism"," America likes to bully small Nations", "Bush wants to steal Iraqs oil" is  rediculous.
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: Fishu on February 19, 2003, 05:32:10 PM
Batz,

Who saying they should.. the thing is that they're SAYING they are taking care of the worlds problems.
.... and in rather selective way.

So it's just to add into argument that why it's all the sudden important to invade country X and tell that it is to get rid of a bad guy and free the people of him - while about always theres something which would benefit US.
Freeing people from this and that guy is just added propaganda, so the congress wouldn't look so bad when invading the country when they have gained lots of support from their people.
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: Puke on February 19, 2003, 05:42:54 PM
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If Saddam is so horrible, why isn't those several african and south american dictators then? -Fishu


Because Saddam made his own bed and now must sleep in it.  Had he never invaded, raped and pillaged Kuwait, he wouldn't have had to sue for peace when his army was forcibly removed and he wouldn't have had to sign off on an agreement stating a destruction of his weapons.  But see, he's in violation of that agreement which breaks the agreement of peace.  He created this situation.
Title: History channel show on Sadam Insane
Post by: Batz on February 19, 2003, 05:47:16 PM
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the thing is that they're SAYING they are taking care of the worlds problems.


No they dont, they say that taking care of Suddam solves one of their problems, as well as benefits the region and the "world" in general.

You can disagree with that, if so argue that. Dont pull some bs "Americans are bullies".



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US didn't give a crap for the people


We had the same indifference to them as you Euros.........