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Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Citabria on June 14, 2000, 04:12:00 PM
300 yards?
200 yards?
150 yards?
30 yards?


if your the 30 yards type 1.03 will be quite spectacular for your viewing pleasure  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: -ammo- on June 14, 2000, 04:17:00 PM
convergence is set for 250, strive for that distance. Sometimes though the heat of the moment dictates that i shoot at longer distances--never over twice convergence.
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: StSanta on June 14, 2000, 04:34:00 PM
I open up at around 350 and rarely shoot beyond that, other than MG's to get lucky pings on runners.

But usually get kills under 300, 350 is sort of a longshot. Of course, with the guns on the 109, that's the limiting factor. I gather that had I had .50's or Hispanos, I'd open up before and still be comfortable about getting hits.

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Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Hangtime on June 14, 2000, 04:35:00 PM
Ahhhh the qualifier for this one should be:

"Given all the time in the world to set up your shot; what range whould you open fire at??"

In the above scenario; 250 yards MAXIMUM. I'll often wait till I'm even closer... why waste the ammo.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Unfortunatly in the MA 'all the time in the world' is not always a requiste.. in fact more often than not the opposite is true.. and in that case I'll take what I can get.  If a tracking solution presents itself at d500; I'll open up. I prefer to wait for a nice big fat planform shot, and will often 'pepper' the guy with a few pings at d500 to get him turning.. then he's meat fer sure.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Convergence: 250/275/300, overlapped. (6 .50's)

Hang
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 14, 2000, 04:44:00 PM
because my niki have few amo, rarely above 300y. When I'm in eni's 6 slightly above because he is turning,around 300y.

If the guy is rolling all over trying to run, i wait till 150-50y.

My best score is 3 fighters with 40 rounds, but need to be real close.
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Sn1p3r on June 14, 2000, 04:45:00 PM
I've never been lucky enough to get behind someone  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)

Actually I look for 300 and a pancake shot like Hang suggests.  It is much easier to take a wing when it is presented to you at a 90 degree angle

Convergence is 300/300/300

-Sn1p3r
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: hblair on June 14, 2000, 05:02:00 PM
If I'm closing on a bandits low six, and sense that he doesn't know I'm there, I will close to 200 - 300yds before squeezing the trigger.

I like seeing 95% of my ammo lighting up the target and then the quick, big, kaboom.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Dude wakes up in the tower with the 'ol "WTF?!?!"

Gotta love it.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Westy on June 14, 2000, 05:03:00 PM
 I really like opening up at 250-300 but will shoot up to 450-500 if it looks promising.

-Westy
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Mox on June 14, 2000, 05:10:00 PM
300 On all planes except the HogC

If I use the HogC I fire at around 800 and regularly get kills with it.  I dislike the planes cannons, it's no secret I feel it's the worst thing about AH.  I hope they are truly fixed when the next version is released.

Mox
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Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Spatula on June 14, 2000, 05:11:00 PM
30 feet??? Jez i ramm cons more than i can shoot em at that range  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) i'm gunna fit 'bull bars' to the front of my stang and 38 then i can ram as much as i want  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

I'll shoot at anything under 400. Or like hang says ill take a 500 snapshot just to break his concentration if nothing else, or peppering shots at greater than 500-800 to get them to turn.

My convergence are defaults (might have a play later with this).

Spat
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Kieren on June 14, 2000, 05:22:00 PM
I take a planform at practically any sub-900 distance. If nothing else it will scare the snot out of them, at best it will knock something off and slow them down. A punctured glycol line is a kill in 3 minutes.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: funked on June 14, 2000, 05:55:00 PM
Anywhere from 750 to 50 yards depending on ammo load, enemy numbers, plane types, how close am I to home, how many bandits do I think might show up, how good I'm shooting that night, what I ate for breakfast, etc.
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Udie on June 14, 2000, 06:07:00 PM
 What Hangtime said.......

Udie
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Saintaw on June 14, 2000, 07:03:00 PM
Depends of the plane I'm flying :
250/300 in 109's
300/350 in 190
300/500 in Pony.

Saw
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: easymo on June 14, 2000, 09:26:00 PM
 depends intirely on how many g,s im pulling. If i can unload the stick and stay on target. Ill drop anything out to 800 yards.
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Hazed on June 14, 2000, 09:35:00 PM
ill shoot when i see whites of their eyes or the stains in their pants  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Swager on June 14, 2000, 10:14:00 PM
Always 800 to 1.3!  If I get closer I'll collide with the enemy and I'll crash.  Enemy will get the kill!  Happened again tonite!  

Maybe I'll start shooting from 1.5!

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Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Vulcan on June 14, 2000, 10:21:00 PM
Dunno, I close my eyes when I pull the trigger.
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Mr.ED on June 14, 2000, 10:31:00 PM
I have my convergence set at 250 for the outboard four guns and 200 for the inboard two guns.
Between 250-500 the outboard guns have the same wingspan spread. If I tag the con in that range, I'm closing fast, by the time I release the outboard guns and hit the inside four, they are smokin'. If I don't tag them, with the outboards, I close to within 250.

Mr.ED
Six fifties, no waiting
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Glasses on June 14, 2000, 10:35:00 PM
I just go...I wish I wish upon a star that my shots land right on their ass..and it ussually works. No need for getting close huh?
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: bloom25 on June 15, 2000, 03:57:00 AM
I try not to fire beyond 500 yds.  (With p51 you have to be even closer to do real damage. )  On the plus side the .50s fly nice and straight, making hits pretty easy to score.  Occasionally I'll open up at 650 yds with 2 MGs just to get someone to roll away from me. (Makes them a bigger target.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) )



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Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Duckwing6 on June 15, 2000, 05:59:00 AM
Depending on closure speed i'll start shooting further out ..

but usually i try to hold back till at just over convergence (350 Yards).. but depending on the situation i'll shoot to a max of 2x convergence (700-800 yards) everything else is a waste of ammo.
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: pzvg on June 15, 2000, 06:41:00 AM
I would like to use 250,however due to the vagaries of the net, I find that getting that close results in an unacceptable amount of "jumping around" (not really a warp, just a jitter) so I plan my engagement envelope from 500 to 300 and hope for a good hit pattern.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
But hey, look at my sig, what do I know about it?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Ghosth on June 15, 2000, 06:44:00 AM
What Funked Said

I've i've got a good bounce I'll try for 300 more or less depending on conditions.
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Minotaur on June 15, 2000, 11:00:00 PM
Nothing better than a d50 ambush!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

I generally wait until I am under d350, unless flying 1C.  About d250 seems optimum.

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Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Mitsu on June 16, 2000, 02:31:00 AM
I set convergence to 300 yards for TnB fighter, and 400 yards for BnZ Fighter.

I always begin shooting within 250-350 yards.

Cheers.


-Mitsu
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Sparks on June 16, 2000, 03:32:00 AM
In the rare instance I'm on someones 6 I'll look for opening up as range goes through 450 - found anyhing around 500 and above is wasted ammo. Convergence is set to 400 on canons and 350 on MG's - are those sensible figures and if not why not?
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Wanker on June 16, 2000, 08:03:00 AM
I set the convergence of my twin .50's on my Spit to 500yds, and use them for trying to make a running bandit think I'm closer than I really am, by squirting tracers past his windscreen.

My Hispanos are set to 300yds, and I use them for killing. I don't feel confident about hitting a plane unless it's within 300 yds.
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: Jekyll on June 16, 2000, 08:17:00 PM
On a non-maneuvering con I'll take the '6' shot from about 550 yds.  My stang has convergence set for 400 on outer bank, and 375 for inner bank of guns.

With a fast closure rate, if I open up at 550 he's usually dead well before I reach 400yds.

For a maneuvering con, I'll take any shot from about 500yds on in.  Doesn't seem to be any problem connecting at that range, no matter how hard a turn he's pulling.
Title: How Close do you really get before pulling the trigger?
Post by: SKurj on June 17, 2000, 10:43:00 AM
I had a strange one last night...

I was flying the dweebfire, and fighting a 109 roughly co e.  He was attempting to spiral climb me at loooo speed and was approximately 850-900 away from me.  I was roughly at his 5 oclock, and thought what the hell I've got 1400 rnds of .303 so I took a pot shot.  I didn't see any hits register, and fired about 120 rnds.  3 seconds later POP! he blowed up good...  Think I had convergence at default.

SKurj