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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SACWB3 on February 23, 2003, 07:35:09 PM
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I would like to propose a no-fire flyby of by all aces in memory of the crew of the Columbia Space Shuttle. All who would like to participate are welcome.
Location= main arena online
Specific Location = Center sector of what ever map is up
Date = March 1, 2003, Saturday Time = 7:00pm Central Time
Alt = 10K
Duration = 30minutes minimum
Plane Selection = Aces Choice
The flight path is counter clockwise and there will be no combat during the flyby. Communication between all aces should be so everyone can read about where each of us were when we heard of the tragety. We will have one minute of silence during the last minute of the 30 min duration. Upon completion of the minute of silence, all combat may return to normal, even in the sector of the memorial flight.
This proposal is introduced to the community with respect to the crew of the Columbia and the aces in AH. This is not meant to be inappropriate in any way. It is intended to pay our tribute to the crew of the Columbia and their families as a community.
Please post your thoughts of whether we should have this event or not.
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March 1st is a Saturday.
SOB
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Yes March first is a Saturday, and your point is???
It's a good idea, let's do it!!!!!
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Please accept my most sincere apologies. I thought he might want to change it to clarify whether he means Saturday or Sunday. Dipshit.
SOB
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SOB......If you have comments make them in private, do not desecrate the memories of these pioneers of the new frontier here.
I still say its a good idea......................Let's do it.
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His point is that there is confusion about the day so this is the best place to bring up the query......unless he gets jumped on further by sarcastic people who havnt spotted what he's spotted.
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That's an interesting remark considering you started slinging the insults. Nice edit though.
SOB
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SOB,
Thank you for noting my error. My apologies for the confusion. The intent is to do this on the 1 month anniversary (for lack of a more appropriate term). If I am not mistaken the tragety occurred Feb 1, 2003.{as per a listing on the internet}
Your post requesting clarification is appreciated greatly.
SACWB3
We did this in AW and we found it to be very rewarding to us and respectful to that tragety.
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Nice idea...hope there's a good turnout. :)
SOB
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I can't wait until Cilk sees that lot in the air.
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Well, I hate to be the voice of opposition, but I feel this is a bad idea and the MA is no place of this sort of thing.
First off, It does nothing to help the families of the columbia crew. It doesnt help Nasa, It really doesnt do anything for anyone involved in the lost. If you care, Do something that will at least possibly help future crews or the losses of the families involved.
Next, The will be plenty of people Screaming and alot of hard feelings when a FW190 divees down on this flyby and starts shooting folks down. Not everyone is going to know what is going on, some might not care. Every one of these seems to get interuped by aggressors.
Is it wrong to shoot down guys in this memorial? some might think so, But in reality, Its a game/sim and thats what we do. This is the place for taking out agression and besting your opponets. Its the purpose of the MA to Shoot folks down and take their teritory, Even mess up their fun. This just goes against the grain and has a receipt for disaster.
Just my opinon, But this idea of a memorial sort of cheapens their deaths. I understand Memorials for guys that spent time here, and really enjoy this sort of thing. I dont feel that this is the place for this memorial.
If you really feel that this is a good Idea, I will respect your feelings on the matter. I propose you move it from the MA to the SEA or TA, To limit the interlopers during the flight.
Im not replying to flame anyone, I just felt the need to voice my feelings on the matter.
Respectfuly,
Grimm
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i have to agree with Grimm here, 7pm CST is primetime, on a saturday...
receipe for disaster - sorry to say.
wiser to move it to another arena if you really want an undisturbed event.
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Try the training arena?
PS SOB I edited my post 3 min after I did the orignal post because of a mispelled word. The content is the same. AND, I never called you any obscene words.
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This is a recipe for disaster, why?
It's the Main
Peak time for the week
It's the internet
How many people would it take to spoil the flight, just one
Not everyone reads the BBS
Not everyone speaks English
There's always someone who doesn't care
List goes on...
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I agree with the sentiment, but as has been pointed out it is a bit impracticle. I'm all for flypasts for lost ex AH players, but as far as anything else where does it end. Should we have one for the 96 (not 7 who were doing their job) innocent people killed in the nightclub fire, the list is endless.
It might sound harsh and unfeeling (not meant to be) but that is the practicalities of it.
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SACWB3
I just wanted to add, Your intentions are honorable. That is a good thing :)
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I read your original post Fridaddy, and you did edit out more than just spelling errors. But whatever, I'm done.
SOB
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I wish this was going to be on Sunday night as I would most definately like to be in this but when ever it is done then
SALUTE TO ALL WHO PARTICIPATE !!!!!!!!!
This is a wonderful idea, wish I had thought of it.
ab8aac
out
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Grim,
Thank you for your thoughts. That is why I posted it as a 'proposed' flyby. I am seeking this feedback so we can all decide if we want to do it or not.
The Training arena might be a better way to go. I proposed the MA as it would seem to have more participants and presents more of a challenge to have this happen there. I have thought about those who do not know about the event and in turn dive in on the participants. I am not sure what to do about that other than shrug it off and re-up my plane.
I also did not think of the 98 who recently died. My apologies for that. It would seem that if we do one then we should do the other. If we do that then we must do one for anyone who has anything happen to them, even down to a speeding ticket. We will then be AH memorial sim. Your point is well founded. It may be best to forget the whole thing.
However, I will be there and I will be flying. If someone shoots me down, then I will applaud them for their points, re-up and continue my flight.
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I would say that the SEA is the place for this. Pick a time that doesnt conflict with anything that goes on there
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Originally posted by Grimm
First off, It does nothing to help the families of the columbia crew. It doesnt help Nasa, It really doesnt do anything for anyone involved in the lost. If you care, Do something that will at least possibly help future crews or the losses of the families involved.
Yes, drop NASA a line and remind them that the damned Titanic at least had SOME lifeboats!
Ask them why they didn't bother to inspect the shuttle even though it was relatively easy to do.
Ask them why they never even discussed the possiblity of tile damage with the crew, but instead, did some base analysis, crossed their fingers and whistled past the graveyard. Complacency kills.
Ask NASA why they have absolutely no contingency plans for inflight damage. Ask why they haven't used DuPont's two-part ceramic repair material (quite literally troweled on the effected area like cement) designed for exactly this type of repair.
Write letters to your local newspapers, your Congressmen, write NASA directly.
I have published a piece in Newsday, asking those tough questions. NASA declined to respond, citing that the investigation was still under way. However, they know we are watching and will hold their feet to the fire.
If you really want to make a difference, write a letter, send an e-mail, make a phone call. Contribute to one of the several trusts set up to benefit the children of those who died. Do something of substance. Flybys are nice gestures, but all they can be are gestures. No one but those who participate will know about it. Instead, do something that can really count.
My regards,
Widewing
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If im still awake by then, I`ll be there.
In a 262.
Mwahahaha.
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If you really want to do a tribute to the Columbia crew SAC, go to Wal-Mart and buy a Estes Rocketry Starter Kit. The AH MA just isn’t conducive to this type of tribute, trust me. Get it and find local kids to turn onto amateur rocketry.
I spend every Sunday having the local kids chase Estes rockets around, and they just love it. It’s $19.95 for the starter kit, and I buy 4 paks of C6-7’s at $4.99 a 3 pack. I build the rockets, but they have to load the igniters, run through the safety checks, and do a countdown.
Like the movie “October Sky” they just have a blast, and learn “science” of all things.
If you really want to do a tribute to Columbia, make the effort to turn on some kids to what started it all. They are the future, and without getting into ATFE details, its future is in dire needs.
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We could have a "multi-chess-piece" squad of 262's as "bouncers" for the event. Chasing off or knocking down anyone trying to disturb.
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we did this in aw whin the wtc was hit it was funny how all like the ideal and it was a sucsess but it seems some of the ah guys have no honer or fillings i think its a great that sacwb3 came up with this
sacwb3 and all that like this
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Originally posted by yb11
some of the ah guys have no honer or fillings
"Sweat Jesious!"
Yes, modern dentistry is amazing, isn't it?
Lol Brady, you've met your match!
My regards,
Widewing
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You guys should re-read these posts and reflect on what they really say about the writer.
This proposal was intended to also help bring this so called "community" closer together. The corporate world calls it "Team Building". But of course sub-blue collar workers can't understand that concept. That is why they will always be where they are and never advance their lives any higher than just above those of convicts.
I salute all of you with the negative attitudes that you so eagerly flow out to the rest of the world. You make my life just that much easier to endure as I can always compare my life's trials to those of yours, which make you the way you are.
I salute all of you who never have an idea that is intended to make a community feel better about themselves and their fortunes. That is why you will always be in the middle of no where and in that travel trailer hiding from the world while we thrive.
I salute those of you who see the world as your enemy. You may just be out numbered. You may want to reconsider fighting a loosing battle.
But most of all I bask in the greatness of those with open minds and hearts who give more than they seek to receive. You are truly the meaning of humanity and compassion. Without you the world would be as Fighter Ace is "chewing gum for the mind".
I would like to thank all of you who posted in this proposal. Each reply is appreciated without matter to its content or position on the subject presented herein. I apologise to those of you whom I have offended with this proposal and this final posting on the subject for you are indeed the underprivleged. Your following posts will prove that to the community. I hope that those of you who were not offended, may sit back with confidence and pride in knowledge that you are the cream of the crop. Enjoy your game.
For those of you who find a feeling of superiority in pointing out spelling errors I say, "Check your Grammer."