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Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: nonoht on February 21, 2001, 08:23:00 AM
i just wonder how much perk point will be necessary to fly the cheapest perk plane...
i've just 400 perks in fighter and 200 in bomber
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: Ripsnort on February 21, 2001, 08:26:00 AM
It hasn't been decided yet.(As far as us, the users know)
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: Ice on February 21, 2001, 08:55:00 AM
Hope they have something cheap for those of us who do not have 30hrs a week to fly.

Perhaps a J3 or an ultralight?

Ice (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: miko2d on February 21, 2001, 09:36:00 AM
   
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Originally posted by Ice:
Hope they have something cheap for those of us who do not have 30hrs a week to fly.

 How does the number of hours even matter? You earn on avarage so many perk points per hour depending on your skill level and, probably, on time spent flying. Once you have a perk plane, you lose it in certain average time also based on your skill level.

 For example if you earn 15 minutes of perk-flying in an hour you will be in a perk plane 25% of the time. It does not matter if you fly 1 hour a week or 30. Or do you think that someone flying 30 hours should spend the same 15 minutes a week in a perk plane rather then 7.5? The number of hours he spends does not affect you negatively because  you can see him only when you are flying and only in as a single person at a time - so he cannot outnumber you, perk plane or not. The more hours he flies, the greater chance you have to find a non-empty arena. But once someone is there, his chance of being in a perk plane in no way depends on the number of hours he flies (other then building his skill of course).

 When you grow up and join the workforce, you will see the most common example of that in a hourly wages. If you are making $100 and hour you are considered much higher paid then a guy making $10/hour.
 If he works a year round he makes $20,000 total (without overtime).
 If you choose to work 4 hours a week, you will make $400 * 50 = $20,000 - same him!

 It would be as unfair on his part to ask to be paid more then you because he is spending more hours, as for you to be asking for more money because you cannot spend more time working.

miko

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Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: straffo on February 21, 2001, 09:58:00 AM
I'm about to found the colorblind piper cub squad  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: NHMadmax on February 22, 2001, 03:37:00 AM
with the amount of perk points i have i could get the sopworth camel just.
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: Jekyll on February 22, 2001, 07:04:00 AM
I suppose this question leads to the following:

In Aces High we have a Main Arena.
It has strat,
It has a fuel multiplier,
It has realistic ammunition limits,
You get a perk plane once you have earned sufficient points.

In Aces High we also have a Training Arena.
It has strat,
It has unlimited fuel,
It has 10 x the realistic ammunition limit,
But will you have to EARN perk planes?  I shouldnt think so .. a bit hard to train someone in the Tempest if neither the trainer nor the student can afford it  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

And if so, where will the new guys (and some of the not-so-new guys) decide to fly?

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Chapter 13, verse 11
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: Lephturn on February 22, 2001, 07:10:00 AM
I can tell you where folks will always fly.

Where the most other people are.  In the main.

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Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: Kieren on February 22, 2001, 07:46:00 AM
By golly Jekyll, I hadn't forseen that possibility, but you may well be right. We could definitely see the TA attendance go up significantly. Someone said he had but 400 points in fighters. LOL, I have but 200, and it is near the end of the month! No way this guy will ever see a perk outside of H2H, offline or TA.
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: lazs on February 22, 2001, 08:17:00 AM
if perk planes are cheap then we will not be able to fly a single day in the main without some perk jerk spoiling the fight.   If they are expensive then only the most dedicated score potatos will have em and the newbie or infrequent player will be left out of the game.

Either way... it's an idiotic idea.  Far better (and fairer)to simply have em available the last day or so of the tour to everyone.
lazs
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: nonoht on February 22, 2001, 08:23:00 AM
agree 100% with you lars
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: Pepino on February 22, 2001, 11:55:00 AM
We will see how it works, and how is tweaked. IMHO the only idiotic thing about perks is to say that is idiotic without seing how it actually works.

From my point of view, any good pilot, regardless of its time online will have a fair chance of surviving in a perk. Not the careless one. Given that, he will be pretty much able to keep his perk score.

But, again, this is only speculation. Stating that perk will or will not be good for AH is pointless. Htc is going to put it in next version, and will have a trial & error time where it will be tweaked. If the result is not good (numberwise) I bet it will be removed. If a minority of people just hate it....hmmmm.....get used to it, for I don't see them giving it away in this case.

Based on what we have now, I find the MA play a LOT more interesting. You have an incentive to protect strat targets, and fights are (at least from my FE) much more intense. If AH keeps moving in this direction, they have my money. Hell, they might have it otherwise too   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Cheers,

Pepe
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: texace on February 22, 2001, 12:25:00 PM
Withthe amount of fighter perks I have (210)..I could buy two feathers and some instruction on how to use them.

Dunno how the system will work...I don't care what I fly, I just want to fly.

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Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: Kieren on February 22, 2001, 12:27:00 PM
 http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/008199.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/008199.html)
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: metronom on February 22, 2001, 01:05:00 PM
agree 100% lasz

  Sailor
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: AKSeaWulfe on February 22, 2001, 01:08:00 PM
I've got 900somein perk points. I don't care how much a perk plane costs.

As long as the La5FN stays unperked, I'll venture out to say I can contend with anything that's thrown my way.
-SW
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: TheWobble on February 22, 2001, 01:16:00 PM
I managed to accumulate over 600 bomber points in just over 3 days, so if the arado costs around 500-700 it wouldent bother me a bit.
Title: amount of perk points to fly ?
Post by: Jekyll on February 22, 2001, 03:46:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Lephturn:
I can tell you where folks will always fly.

Where the most other people are.  In the main.


Hell, some nights when I fly, there ARE more in the TA than in the MA!

Oh, and I think you left a very important thing out of your above statement Lephturn.

"Assuming both arenas are the same"

Why do HA's fold?  Because they are perceived to offer less than the Main Arena.  Less choice WRT planes, less 'ezmode' WRT icons.

But this will be the reverse situation, won't it?  For the first time, the MA will be perceived as actually offering the new guy less of everything?

Interesting choices ahead.


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When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
Chapter 13, verse 11

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