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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Red Tail 444 on February 25, 2003, 11:33:58 AM
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(Don't flame me, I know this is an Army ride...)
With all the non-combat related deaths the Blackhawk is involved in, I wonder if it's earned the reputation of the Ensign Eliminator, 2003 Version.
Like the Corsair, it's a superior aircraft given its role, but is the flight envelope and margin of error so small, like the Hog, that the penalty for error needs to be this severe? 4 more guys died today in an exercise.
Gainsie
Any thoughts
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compare?
The good old Uh-1?
I do not think the comparison is all that good. I thought the blackhawk was like a caddy and easy to fly?
Besides the Corsair got a bad rep from the very early models, by the time the F4u-1A, was with the Marines, and Navy it was a fine aircraft, and I would say only marginally more dangerous to its pilot then the Hellcat or Mustang.
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The Blackhawk is the most widely used huey in the US arsenal.. The Army,Navy,Coast Guard, and AirForce both use different versions..
Its the only reasion you see it so often.... Also theirs not much room for error..as aposed to fixed wing a/c
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Originally posted by nuchpatrick
The Blackhawk is the most widely used huey in the US arsenal.. The Army,Navy,Coast Guard, and AirForce both use different versions..
Its the only reasion you see it so often.... Also theirs not much room for error..as aposed to fixed wing a/c
Huey is a helicopter made by Bell.
Blackhawk is a helicopter made by Sikorsky.
All helicopters are not hueys.
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Thank you, I was about to flip out.
(Ex-UH60 Mechanic)
Originally posted by Furious
Huey is a helicopter made by Bell.
Blackhawk is a helicopter made by Sikorsky.
All helicopters are not hueys.
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Originally posted by Kanth
Thank you, I was about to flip out.
(Ex-UH60 Mechanic)
hehe
Ninja Kanth!! Run away!!
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If you going to quote the name of the uh-1 then do it right. :)
UH-1 Iroquoise by Bell Helicopter
Huey is not the official name of this helicopter.
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Oh Dear me!
I am going to burn in Heligoflipter hell for not getting the name right!
LOL!
does any call it this?? >Iroquoise
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Okay next time I'll call it a heilo :D instead of huey..I didn't feel like spelling it all out... :p
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The last Blackhawk will be sling loaded to the scrap yard by a Huey.
If I can't call it a Huey, I guess I can't call a Thunderbolt II a Warthog. Shucks, I guess I'll just have to be wrong.
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When my nephew was 3 he used to call them Hoctiplurs...
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QUAH!!!!!! ;)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
When my nephew was 3 he used to call them Hoctiplurs...
:)
My daughter called them "Hoppidoppers" when she was two.
eskimo
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The F4U and the Blackhawk combined aren't as dangerous as that damn Tilt-rotar thingie the Pentagon won't kill.
Half-helo, half-plane. And people wonder why they keep falling from the sky. I only wish it didn't take 15 Marines with it every time. :(
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Originally posted by Dune
The F4U and the Blackhawk combined aren't as dangerous as that damn Tilt-rotar thingie the Pentagon won't kill.
Half-helo, half-plane. And people wonder why they keep falling from the sky. I only wish it didn't take 15 Marines with it every time. :(
v-22 osprey?
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Yeah, I was going to say the Osprey.
I don't think it's widely used though.
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First off, hard to call the Blackhawk the Ensign Eliminator, when there are no ensigns in the army (only the navy felt the need to rename all the officer ranks). Second, the majority of the flying in the Army is done by warrant officers anyway. Minor points, I know, but it's like calling the blackhawk a huey. It just ain't right.
And I agree, the Osprey has already earned itself the nickname of "Marine Killer." It's a shame it took the big heads so long to realize that it wasn't fit for service yet.
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Huey=Iroquoise ... it's right.
Just like:
Warthog = A10 Thunderbolt II
Viper = F-16 Fighting Falcon
Hog = F4U Corsair or ... P-47 Thunderbolt
Don't get anal over "official" names. Pilots (and fans) will generally call them by their most popular names. And the UH-1's most popular name is "Huey" (As in "Baby Huey").
Originally posted by Tommy
If you going to quote the name of the uh-1 then do it right. :)
UH-1 Iroquoise by Bell Helicopter
Huey is not the official name of this helicopter.
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Originally posted by Dune
The F4U and the Blackhawk combined aren't as dangerous as that damn Tilt-rotar thingie the Pentagon won't kill.
Half-helo, half-plane. And people wonder why they keep falling from the sky. I only wish it didn't take 15 Marines with it every time. :(
Got to start from somewhere :)
Remember that the first airplanes weren't quite as safe either.. those just didn't carry alot of passengers :rolleyes:
Helicopters weren't either so safe at first..
If a plane and a chopper can be combined together well, it'll have tremendous effectiveness value.
I'm looking towards such airplanes.
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Should do some research on how many Marines are killed on ch-46 and ch-53 helos. there is alot that goes on that no one ever hears about.
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Originally posted by Tommy
If you going to quote the name of the uh-1 then do it right. :)
UH-1 Iroquoise by Bell Helicopter
If you really want to do it right: UH-1 Iroquois
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Originally posted by mjolnir
And I agree, the Osprey has already earned itself the nickname of "Marine Killer." It's a shame it took the big heads so long to realize that it wasn't fit for service yet.
If you look at the accident reports it appears that pilot error was a big factor in all the Osprey accidents. They should have retrained their best helo pilots for the Osprey instead of trying to familiarize ex-cargo plane fliers with the nuances of helicopter flight. One of the worst accidents apparently involved a vortex ring scenario, which an experienced helo pilot would probably never have gottten into.