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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: blitz on February 28, 2003, 04:54:12 PM
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Have fun, enjoy some mind refreshing thoughts:)
http://www.counterpunch.org/kchristison0502.html
Regards Blitz
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Shall I put up a link to Mein Kampf, Blitz?
Whats your point?? The CIA supported the Mujahedeen (who were all opium growers) against the Soviets?? Big freakin deal.. like this is NEWS or something?
How 'bout I give yah a freebie.. The CIA sponsored Laoatian Generals and Warlords in Vietnam.
Catch a clue.. we don't care.
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Well, at least he got rid of that horrible misspelled sig line of his.
I suppose he read something about smallpox or anthrax on the internet.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Shall I put up a link to Mein Kampf, Blitz?
Whats your point?? The CIA supported the Mujahedeen (who were all opium growers) against the Soviets?? Big freakin deal.. like this is NEWS or something?
How 'bout I give yah a freebie.. The CIA sponsored Laoatian Generals and Warlords in Vietnam.
Catch a clue.. we don't care.
Sorry Hang , my friend, i just found her thoughts on Palestinian/Israely conflict interesting to read, scroll a bit before ya rant....
Regards Blitz
And for Hortlund exclusivly:
America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Blitz, but Iraqi citizens are threatened by a dictator. To think they are not is rediculous.
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blitz wrote:
*America is threathened by **Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
Gee haven't we heard a comment like that come out of Germany before?
Thanks but I think WE can be the best judge of what threatens US.
*replace with ANY Country besides Germany.
**replace with Germany or Japan.
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blitz: America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
Of course we have to threaten and invade a weak country with no friends but a lot of treasure. What would you want, that America took on someone who could actually kick our ass? What kind of a patriot are you?
miko
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Turdboy: Gee haven't we heard a comment like that come out of Germany before?
Yea - 5 million of iraki sunnis that barelly suppress 15 million of kurds and shi'ites are really comparable with a 60-million heavily industrialised advanced country with strong military tradition....
Good thing americans killed that million phillipinos in 1898-1903. Who knows what those potential aggressors would have done...
miko
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What would you want, that America took on someone who could actually kick our ass?
And that would be WHO?
There is a reason it is now said that America is the only superpower now.
dago
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Palistine hoped for and abbeted the destruciton of Isreal in 1967(and every day before and since) haveing bet with hate they pay the price of lack of trust. This woman apperently hopes that Isreal will turn the other cheek an leave themselves vulnerable to thier avowed enemies once again.
But unfortunatly for the peave process. Isreal treats her enemies like enemies. Any american that endorses the comming war in Iraq
has to admit that the "risk" to the US is much less then the the daily risk to the Isreal. And seeing the US response to that risk in Iraq. Put in simular risk to that that the isrealies face. Most contries would simply whip out the Palastinians. Right? Wrong?
Let the histories decide. Most countries in the world would whipe out the Palastinians if they faced them like the Isrealies do.
We ask them to embrace them again..to expose thier backs agian. This woman cant rewrite the history of the state of Isreal. She can only be selective in what portions of it she tells.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Blitz, but Iraqi citizens are threatened by a dictator. To think they are not is rediculous.
So are we in the business of fighting for other peoples freedom?... I think that's a job for Iraqi boys-
I don't want anything to do with freeing Iraq or any other country ... we fought our own war on our soil for that about 200 years back.
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Topic:
One thing I always like to remind myself of when reading about Terrorists:
Nazi's called the french resistance terrorists. Viva la France~!
Viva la Palestine? :rolleyes:
Somehow I don't think many americans see it that way. Maybe if we all yell Viva la Palestine loud enf it will make sense?
I still remember talking with my sister after she visted the west bank, she was horrified at how the Israelies treated them-That opinion I trust more than any paper I'll ever read or speach I'll hear.
In the end you can't base your pro-war/anti-war ideas on what you think you know .. you know nothing , I know nothing.... but knowing that, I know something.
Words are just aproxamations, generalized by nesscity ... don't get caught up in words. I find too many people thinking in words. Complex thing to talk about but I think it really effects the way people think and mis-think (IMHO). Tell me if you understand me, even if you don't agree.
:Not the same subject on words as above::
Words are why people want war. If they knew the word war would they be so ready to START one? How long did you know the word love before you knew love?
edit:
oh and Pongo.
Most countries in the world would whipe out the Palastinians if they faced them like the Isrealies do.
So genocide ... like Nazi's did to the Jew's or Euro-Americans did to 'indians'....... so long as you don't claim the moral high ground like the US is tryign to do ... just admit genocide if that's what your after.... and you wonder why us anti-war people think you pro-war'ers are so insane? Or is it misled? ( Yes, we think pro-war folks are insane just as much as you think we are crazy crack head, tree-huggers)
And yes I love my trees :D.... imagine Vermont without trees ... we cut them ALL down once... ALL! more or less. I like it better now than pictures I've seen.
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Blitz
Yeah great blame the US for problems in Afghanistan.
:rolleyes:
The only reason for the US ever being in Afghanistan is that the USSR invaded a sovereign country without cause in a blatant war of conquest.
So if you want to blame somebody for problems in Afghanistan, blame the Russian communists.
But of course you are obviously in the grip of communist propaganda, so that will probably never happen.
It's amazing how much power the communist propaganda machine continues to wield, more than a decade after the demise of the USSR.
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Originally posted by Dago
And that would be WHO?
There is a reason it is now said that America is the only superpower now.
dago
And it gives me a Freakin Hard-on;)
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I want cheap oil !
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Blitz, but Iraqi citizens are threatened by a dictator. To think they are not is rediculous.
Sure they are but who gives a damn about it?
It's just another propaganda lie to justify a war.
This war will be fought for many reasons: Oil controll, paranoija,
some kind of word control by 1 nation maybe.
Sure it's possible iraq people benefit from this war in long terms but this isn't the reason Bush warmongers are goin to fight Iraq.
Regards Blitz
America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Originally posted by funkedup
Blitz
Yeah great blame the US for problems in Afghanistan.
:rolleyes:
The only reason for the US ever being in Afghanistan is that the USSR invaded a sovereign country without cause in a blatant war of conquest.
So if you want to blame somebody for problems in Afghanistan, blame the Russian communists.
But of course you are obviously in the grip of communist propaganda, so that will probably never happen.
It's amazing how much power the communist propaganda machine continues to wield, more than a decade after the demise of the USSR.
Sorry funked, i didn't read her writing about afganisthan, cant' talk about it.
And yes, i blame the Russian Communists for invading afganisthan.
Ohhhhhhh, errr, The russians just just followed the call for help from the goverment of afganisthan because they wanted to help the poor women and children who were threatened by terrorists.
You know very well that they were always willing to help other countries in their nearer history. Only totally ignorant people accuse them superpowers to give a dead rats prettythang about the freedom of little third world countries :D
Regards Blitz
America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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cia = american propaganda unit
these the same people who imported all the cocain during the reagan administration?
screw them truman was right. no secret police in america ever.
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""So are we in the business of fighting for other peoples freedom?"""...........yes, you find something wrong with that?
NOTE:: something bad happened to vader when he was in the US Navy and now he hates the whole USA
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so im misquoted now. no just conservatives who wrap themselves in flags.
love the usa just fine
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Originally posted by blitz
Sure they are but who gives a damn about it?
It's just another propaganda lie to justify a war.
Regards Blitz
America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
I bet you would have wanted to leave hitler in power.
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Originally posted by X2Lee
I bet you would have wanted to leave hitler in power.
I hated Hitler but at last he became my friend .
Was the moment he pulled the trigger with the 08 on his head :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Originally posted by blitz
I hated Hitler but at last he became my friend .
Was the moment he pulled the trigger with the 08 on his head :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
The only difference in hitler and saddam is the scope of thier power.
You say who gives a damn? Americans do. Hitler was no threat to
America in the beginning either. We still cared. Its no different
now.
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Originally posted by X2Lee
The only difference in hitler and saddam is the scope of thier power.
You say who gives a damn? Americans do. Hitler was no threat to
America in the beginning either. We still cared. Its no different
now.
I don't meant you or any other american people , i was talkin about your government.
Sorry for the missunderstanding
Regards Blitz
btw. Saddam Hussein is not Hitler and won't be ever. He's just another bloody third world dictator sitting on some barrels of oil, that's all.
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Blitz, but Iraqi citizens are threatened by a dictator. To think they are not is rediculous.
That's what I used to think about Castro in Cuba. But if you know the history of Cuba, you now realize why he is a hero in his country. Not to compare Castro and saddam, but propoganda(spell?) is a two way street.
There will be no war, AND saddam will be removed.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
That's what I used to think about Castro in Cuba. But if you know the history of Cuba, you now realize why he is a hero in his country.
So is Khaddaffi in Libya, Kim Jong Il in N Korea, so was Mao, Stalin, Hitler...so what's your point? That dictators can brainwash their citizens?
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Originally posted by blitz
I don't meant you or any other american people , i was talkin about your government.
Sorry for the missunderstanding
Regards Blitz
btw. Saddam Hussein is not Hitler and won't be ever. He's just another bloody third world dictator sitting on some barrels of oil, that's all.
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
It's ridiculous to assume that most Americans don't support our government. We elected them and they are us. Blow it out yer bellybutton Blitz.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
So is Khaddaffi in Libya, Kim Jong Il in N Korea, so was Mao, Stalin, Hitler...so what's your point? That dictators can brainwash their citizens?
Not only dictators, but also elected officials. :D
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Originally posted by X2Lee
The only difference in hitler and saddam is the scope of thier power.
You say who gives a damn? Americans do. Hitler was no threat to
America in the beginning either. We still cared. Its no different
now.
Stop compareing apples with ornges... The failing to stop Hitler was during the 'Fake War' AFTER he INVADED Poland... Saddam has done no such thing recently, and his reasons for invadeign Kuwait were better than Hitler's for invadeing Poland
i.e. OPEC
Isreal breaks the 'rules' more than he does.
Originally posted by john9001
""So are we in the business of fighting for other peoples freedom?"""...........yes, you find something wrong with that?
Yes I do have a big problem with that ... because thats NOT why they are going in there. If they/we really gave a crap about human rights would we buy most of our goods from communist sweat shops? Why didn't we liberate the russians from Stalin? What, we should help small countries with Oil to become free? Ha! just another pile of BS .... americans are very good at propganda.
How can you blindly support killing and our men dieing? ... and many will die if we try to take one of the worlds oldest citys. I bet the 'catacombs' there put anything in Rome or Paris to shame. And it won't be a war or attrition... Saddamn isn't fool enf to think he can win that way.
I ain't gonna fight for anything BUT my country if you catch my drift.
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Compareing WWII to this is just stupid.
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Originally posted by AKIron
It's ridiculous to assume that most Americans don't support our government. We elected them and they are us. Blow it out yer bellybutton Blitz.
Dear Mr. Sheet Medal,
i never said ya don't support your government.
I SAID your government gives a dead rats prettythang about democracy and people in Iraq.
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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and yours does?
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The comparison is ridiculous. With 20/20 hindsight, Germany would not have been allowed to participate in the Spanish Civil War, let alone invade Poland.
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Originally posted by Monk
and yours does?
Not that much, believe me. This child was mostly born out of election issues in Germany.
I'm just tired of propaganda lies.
Bush administration comes very close to former communist countries when it comes to propaganda.
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Originally posted by Hortlund
So is Khaddaffi in Libya, Kim Jong Il in N Korea, so was Mao, Stalin, Hitler...so what's your point? That dictators can brainwash their citizens?
I think you proved my point, well done.
That propoganda is a two way street, or did you miss that?
BTW, what Stalin and the Russian patriots did was quite remarkable, and you will obviously never understand what the Russian people went through during WW2.
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Originally posted by AKIron
It's ridiculous to assume that most Americans don't support our government. We elected them and they are us.
Good point, you have to vote for them first.
Again, there will be no war AND saddam will be removed.
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Originally posted by AKIron
It's ridiculous to assume that most Americans don't support our government. We elected them and they are us. Blow it out yer bellybutton Blitz.
U elected him but at least he's only a (psychotic) puppet of the interests of ur industry ... not more.
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Originally posted by Duedel
U elected him but at least he's only a (psychotic) puppet of the interests of ur industry ... not more.
You say that as if European leaders are not puppets of industry as well. What a joke.
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Originally posted by Manedew
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Compareing WWII to this is just stupid.
I am stating hitler and sadamm are the same.
Murdering dictators. I stand by my statement.
saddam can expect a reckoning.
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Hmmm... wasn't Hitler elected?
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Originally posted by Duedel
U elected him but at least he's only a (psychotic) puppet of the interests of ur industry ... not more.
Id say hes 10 times the man you are. Just from hearing him talk and hearing you. Hes got morals and backbone. The world needs more like him.
I find folks who wont help other humans in dire need, deplorable.
Someone said sadamm cant handle 15,000 kurds or toejames
is this how many murders it takes to stand up to this coward?
Hes just a dictator sitting on a few million barrels of oil?
Not for long.
i find the offering of sadamm to leave his country freely makes me sick on my stomach. He should be tried for war crimes and sent to Allah to sort out.
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Originally posted by funkedup
You say that as if European leaders are not puppets of industry as well. What a joke.
Yes do I? Where?
But yes ur right i think that the Euros maybe have one or two things they can control by thereself.
@X2Lee: "Id say hes 10 times the man you are. Just from hearing him talk and hearing you."
Yep as I said X2Lee his backbone is held together by industrial interests and delusions <- this has nothing to do with "is a war vs. Iraq ok or not, its only my personal opinion about Mr. Bush".