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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: KG45 on March 01, 2003, 12:54:59 PM
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not a great dogfighter here. try to hit and run mostly (which is how most real pilots fought.)
so, while most pilots in MA don't have to worry about getting killed by me, I have no trouble gathering a crowd in my six. one of the reasons I fly the 9 when 'on the hunt' is the fact that I when cornered I am often able to shake just about any plane off my six, sometime more than one.
except the George. it's flight envelope seems very similar. I have very little success causing an overshoot while scissoring, which is my standard evasion tactic.
any fellow spit drivers have this dilemma? any solutions?
(got a similar problems with zeros and zekes. but I feel the FM of those planes is porked, they shouldn't be able to follow me through a screaming +400mph power dive.)
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Fly the zeke or the hurri +)
The zero will and can follow a spit thru a 400+ dive, but its controlls get VERY heavy. I use the rudder to try and bleed off some speed in it, so that I can get a better turnrate when the spit turns. The zero does enter a dive pretty good.
Before saying the FM is porked fly the thing plz +)
I am not much help in a sp9 vs nik fight, co-e.. if I fly any spit its the V and it can deal with the n1k quite easily.
SKurj
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the way to shake the george is too exploit it's pilot's eagerness of firing the quad-guns. meaning: they ALWAYS leadturn.
If he's already saddled up on your 6 - dive verically while rolling. when the speed is high enough and the nik is out-of-phase with your roll, chopp throttle and pull hard up into a black out.
The nik will try to follow and black out as well and since it maintains E so well and will require a sec more to roll in the right direction he will not be able to stay in position.
proceed into vertical scissors.
Bozon
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Yup, rolling and diving and rolling in blackouts are the only things a Spit9 can do to shake a George off your tail.
Well, turning perhaps, if the George is heavy. I have a feeling that the turnrates are quite similar. Now with a SpitV you will outturn the George, and a Hurricane IIC is a good anti-George weapon as well.
The Spit 9 is a bit more rugged in my opinion and rolls better, so use that.
Good luck
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the Goerge bleeds e rapidly the exact opposite of the Spit9 which hold its e well..
in a spit 9 throttle management is key when trying to obtain the tightest turns.
IF the george is on your 6 your already in a bad situation... Throttle chopping is a must exp. your throttle chop turn is the same as his full throttle turn... The harder he pulls the more energy hell bleed much more so than spit 9 under equal power. That gives him advantage in the saddle.
I like to chop throttle and pull a hard nose low turn, If he follows then i reverse into a scissor reapplying throttle as i need it..
You can also do variations of this by implementing a barrel roll before your hard nose low break turn if you have the distance to do such a manuever without getting your tail shot off.
Hope this helps...
Turn radii is just as important if not more important that turn rate....
DoctorYO
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looks like some sort of 'blackout' turn is the only real effective way to shake that pesky jap-crap. :D
horizontal scissoring with well timed throttle chopping works for just about everything else
(oh! the joy of watching La-7 dweebs flat spin and hit the ground behind you!) :cool:
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Spit IX rolls better than the N1K and has better performance in the vertical- the N1K turns better at low speeds once it gets its flaps down. Pretty sure the Spit accelerates better as well.