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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: wulfie on March 03, 2003, 06:22:44 AM
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...what's that mean to you?
Me...
Destroy lots of enemy stuff while fighting, ideally without getting killed or captured for the entire 'tour'.
'While fighting' - if the AAA is down at an airfield and the C-47s are inbound, I'm not pulling figure eights over the runway looking for spawning targets if I'm in a fighter (don't get me wrong that's often necessary to capture a field). I'm sweeping the adjacent enemy airfields bouncing guys who are trying to get to the field under attack in order to defend it.
'While fighting' - if the bomber stream, with escorts, is at 22,000' and heading for the radar complex, I'm rolling to intercept it.
I try to fly with some type of tactical/operational purpose. I get plenty of 'furball' type situations, when there's a battle for air superiority between 2 airfields, etc. But I'm not the guy looping to kill the A6M5b 25 meters over the ocean. I'm the guy hunting the enemy cherry pickers who are trying to control the top of the fight. 30 enemy aircraft in a sector...I'm probably in a Bf 109G-10 or Fw 190D-9 attacking the 4 highest first (and working my way down from there).
I usually try to fly one Nation's aircraft for an entire tour. It gives you a good feel for the 'strength' of their 'plane-set'. I'm doing German for the next tour or two, then Soviet, then U.K., then U.S., then Japan.
Some examples...
This tour:
air superiority: Fw 190D-9, Bf 109G-10
short notice bomber intercept: Bf 109G-10
very high altitude air defense, vs. level bombers only: Bf 110G-2, Fw 190A-8
very high altitude air defense, vs. escorted level bombers: Ta-152, Bf 109G-10
mid-low level air defense (enemy FB swarming field, #s almost equal, rolling from field under attack): Fw 190A-5, Bf 109G-2
attack, friendly air superiority over target and surrounding area: Bf 110G-2
attack, friendly air superiority over target, surrounding area contested: Fw 190A-8, Fw 190F-8
attack, enemy air superiority over target and/or surrounding area: Fw 190D-9
...anyone else do this type of thing?
I think I'll do very well with the Soviet 'plane set', then the U.K., then the U.S., the Japan. I think I'll do best with Germany just from time spent with those FMs.
Anyone have an idea for a fair substitute for a Pe-2 type aircraft when I do the Soviet 'plane set' (I need something to fly as a Soviet level bomber on the rare occasion I am doing level bombing).
In general - high damage/bail, capture, death, ditch, without being a 'wuss'. In general if there's some type of operational organization or 'mission' in the works I try to help it even if I'm not directly a part of it.
Give me your versions. I already have lazs2's version - shoot lots of airplanes down flying something big and blue. :)
Mike/wulfie
p.s. Been trying to go thru a 'tour' without getting killed or captured since WB in '95 or so...no joy so far. :)
p.p.s. If you see me yanking the P-40E around on the deck, like I was tonight - it's because I died so much I switched to 'Wulfie the Barbarian Knife Fighter Mode'. :)
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Mainly try to help out where needed and make the trip home with some gas in the tanks and some rounds for emergency situations. In all continue trying to help VF-17 and those we are flying with and make more landings than deaths.
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shooting at the red planes is fun.
lazs
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Originally posted by wulfie
[BI usually try to fly one Nation's aircraft for an entire tour. It gives you a good feel for the 'strength' of their 'plane-set'. I'm doing German for the next tour or two, then Soviet, then U.K., then U.S., then Japan.
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I usually fly a smorgasboard of planes until I find one I like and can get a positive K/D ratio in it, fly it the whole tour, then search for another plane I can go positive K/D with for the next tour. My first success was the FW190A8 and I flew it almost exclusively. The next tour I found the FM-2. The next tour it was the Panzer IV. Last month it is/was the Yak-9U. I think this month I'll see what I can do with the 109F since its pretty similar to the Yak as far as gunnery goes. Or maybe I'll try the Hellcat more. I don't fly Spit IXs, Mustangs, LA-7s, or N1K2s much since so many people fly those already.
Originally posted by wulfie
This tour:
air superiority: Fw 190D-9, Bf 109G-10
short notice bomber intercept: Bf 109G-10
very high altitude air defense, vs. level bombers only: Bf 110G-2, Fw 190A-8
very high altitude air defense, vs. escorted level bombers: Ta-152, Bf 109G-10
mid-low level air defense (enemy FB swarming field, #s almost equal, rolling from field under attack): Fw 190A-5, Bf 109G-2
attack, friendly air superiority over target and surrounding area: Bf 110G-2
attack, friendly air superiority over target, surrounding area contested: Fw 190A-8, Fw 190F-8
attack, enemy air superiority over target and/or surrounding area: Fw 190D-9
...anyone else do this type of thing? [/B]
Air Superiority (friendly in area or otherwise): 190A8 (good for strafing towns, too)
Short notice bomber intercept: 109G2 or Yak9U (small ammo load means ya gotta saw off a wingtip rather than pummel the fuselage) or the 190A8.
Hi-alt bomber intercept: P-51D or F4U-1 birdcage
Mid-Low air defense: Yak-9U
Ground attack: Panzer IV
Airbase Defense: Tiger or Panzer
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Only thing I do at the start of the tour is to see how long I can go with getting killed. After hanging in my chute ½ hour later I then just go on as usual. :)
"Anyone have an idea for a fair substitute for a Pe-2 type aircraft when I do the Soviet 'plane set' (I need something to fly as a Soviet level bomber on the rare occasion I am doing level bombing)."
The Boston and A20 are very much like the Pe-2 in speed, armarment and bombload. They even went to the USSR as Lend-Lease
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Me? die more than ive been dying...
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Wulfie,
It would be correct historically, I believe, to use the Boston as your Soviet level bomber.
I wish you luck. You'll need it flying a Boston in the MA!
MRPLUTO VMF-323 ~Death Rattlers~ MAG-33
P.S. Now that I've posted, I see that Snefens has said just the same thing.
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The Soviets recieved a large number of A-20G's as well; this is considerably more survivable in the MA than the Boston is.
J_A_B
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see how long i can go without scoring a single kill on a spitfire
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Absolutely nothin....i'm still in air combat school trying to learn something.
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I'm gonna fly only the La-7 -- to see what all the fuss is about.
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I like flying the Bf110G-2. If I can get into a target and drop my load and get a kill or two before dying, then I considered it a successful sortie. Hell, if I can just drop my load I'm happy.
As for BnZ planes, I'll stick around a base until I'm out(or almost out)of ammo or my fuel is low. I only use turn fighters when I'm defending a base.
My rides of choice are the P-51, Fw190A-8 and the Yak9-U. I flew the La7 for a bit when I started playing in Oct. 02', but hardly ever fly it anymore. I also recently taken a liking to GVs, especially the M16. I love charging into an nme base and shooting up planes trying to liftoff. I can just hear them cussing because they can't get off the ground.
This is a game and it's supposed to be fun. Play within your skills and try and learn some things. It only seems that the better pilots do most of the whinning. Maybe they should make and arena for pilots that have certain ratings, therefore no nubes or vulchers will be able to get into that arena.
:)
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Originally posted by Rude
Absolutely nothin....i'm still in air combat school trying to learn something.
Drums: "Badump-bump."
Rude: "Thank yah thank yah...I'll be here all week."
:)
Mike/wulfie
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I'll try to get a rank below 1000. Try to make better use of my time. Try to land every sortie and not get killed in stupid furballs.
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I change nothing for a new tour...the only time I check out the score page < when it is working > is to make sure I'm not flying too much. Anything over 40 hours a tour for me is an indication that I need to step away from the computer and reassess my use of free time.
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I dont have the patience for this sort of objective, although I do like to fly according to a 'theme' with others.
The only exception is the Spitfire Mark I. So far, in serious MA combat, I have aprox. 28 kill to no losses over a couple of tours now. Just set convergence to 150 yards and fire a 100 yards does the trick.
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I set aside this tour to hand out less
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I still like just shooting airplanes with my squaddies. Every now and again I get into the jabo kick and load my P-4& with 3x500 and proceed to blow up "stuff".
What a great country!:)
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This tour:
air superiority: Mosquito Mk VI
short notice bomber intercept: Mosquito Mk VI
very high altitude air defense, vs. level bombers only: Mosquito Mk VI
very high altitude air defense, vs. escorted level bombers: Mosquito Mk VI
mid-low level air defense (enemy FB swarming field, #s almost equal, rolling from field under attack): Mosquito Mk VI
attack, friendly air superiority over target and surrounding area: Mosquito Mk VI
attack, friendly air superiority over target, surrounding area contested: Mosquito Mk VI
attack, enemy air superiority over target and/or surrounding area: Mosquito Mk VI
or
Whatever I feel like flying at a given moment.
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Hehehhe here's the short and ugly first report.
Sortie 1: enemy Fw 190A-5 on the 6 of my Fw 190D-9. I reverse the situation and kill him with a *beautiful* 1/4 second snap shot at ~300 (him zooming into a left-hand climbing turn, me fine tuning the gunsight so he can fly thru it). Then a Bf 109G-10 dives and catches me, followed by 2 P-51Ds about 20 seconds later. Bf 109G-10 hits my left flaps and oil, and I dive into a ravine pursued by all 3. The 'asteroid chase scene' from Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back is streaming in my head. Scissoring up against the walls of the ravine. Bf 109G-10 overshoots. 1 P-51D craters. Other P-51D zooms. I'm 10' from the 70 degree sloping wall of the ravine, at ~110 MPH IAS. Smack the flaps and kick the rudder left to wing over away from the ravine wall...friendly base just past the lip of the ravine and I *might* have enough oil to dive, zoom climb out of ravine, and make it home.
Oops...did I mention that I forgot I lost my left flaps? Smack the flaps, one side drops, Fw 190D-9 lurches like Charlie Sheen on a Friday night and into the wall I go.
Just like 'The Empire Strikes Back' alright...I'm one of those 4 TIE fighters that tried to chase Han Solo. :)
1 sortie, 1 death, 1 kill.
Sortie 2: near the same area. A P-47D (Brazilian, this should have warned me) and I tangle for a second about 7000' over the ground at 500+ MPH IAS. He goes his way and I go mine - diving on a pair of Bf 109s (with Finn markings, this should have warned me as well...see below) that are all over some Knight who's on the deck and out of speed.
Line up on the Bf 109 who is lining up on the other Knight. Range 450 or so (200 past conv. for all my guns)...not much closure...he's in a moderate climb...pull lead...fire everything for about 1/2 second. Everything hits on his right wing. Wing gone Bf 109 gone. Sweet! My gunnery is really 'on' today.
I check 6...I'm wings level...just like the P-47 range 525 my '6'. I start to wing over...and just keep going because he puts .50 inch holes in alot of important parts.
2 sorties, 2 kills, 2 deaths.
Oh yeah the guy flying the P-47 was 'one of those Damn Brazillians'. 'Sent a Pua' or something like that. Nice shot you bastard. :)
Sortie 3: Yet another great SA failure. If I was filming these I'd be the subject of 'this is what an SA f*ckup looks like'. Trying to zap some slippery Finn Bf 109 (I think it was DB 603). I get some 13mm hits on him and he slips and slides down and away from my gunsight. I zoom. Check 6. Mossie VI...on my 6...range 250.
It was kind of cool seeing my rear fuselage spin away. Just before I exploded.
3 sorties, 2 kills, 3 deaths.
Sortie 4: Tangling over a Rook airbase as our attack aircraft are inbound. 2 Finn Bf 109s (when will I learn?...), some Ki-61s, 'The Mossie', etc. Chasing a Ki-61 over the airfield. AAA tracers everywhere. Finn 109s everywhere. My self control is shattered as a Mossie spawns at the end of the runway. I dive and hit him with about 700% of the required firepower to kill him...I'd call it 'payback' but he shot me down fair and square. I zoom back around and chase one of the Finn 109s into a climb.
"Hey, where's the other Finn 109? Ah, that must be where those tracers are coming from!"
Ping Clank Ping Clank. Check damage - one aeileron and one elev hit. Dive dive dive! Roll and Dive. Ping Clank Ping Ping Clank. He's at range 500 or so now, and he got my other elevator.
I escape him by doing a really shallow (because I have no tail basically) diving scissors. He leaves me alone eventually, because I suck. :)
Only now...low on gas, no elevators at all, need to land...can't do it. If I get slow enough to drop gear, speed drops too low and I will go into the ground.
A wise man would bail out over a friendly airfield.
If anyone ever meets that wise man tell him he was right. I tried to land, broke the gear off, tried to ditch, overshot the runway...
"Hey I wonder if those big boulders are actual objects that I can collide with?"
They are. You have been warned.
4 sorties, 2 kills, 1 vulch, 4 deaths.
I break out the Fw 190D-9 manual. I catch some fine print at the bottom of page 251 that explains it all:
"If at all possible, avoid flying this aircraft on Mondays."
I'm starting to think I'm going to do better as a Russian. Maybe it's karmic payback for drinking vodka instead of JM or FPMO all those years... :)
Mike/wulfie
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The counter on the rat wheel has been reset, ;)
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If it makes you feel any better I always start my tours w/a HUGE amount of suckage. Then again..it could be argued that I stay in the suckage the entire tour.
Life is sweet..just avoid the cow patties.
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Originally posted by wulfie
Oops...did I mention that I forgot I lost my left flaps? Smack the flaps, one side drops, Fw 190D-9 lurches like Charlie Sheen on a Friday night and into the wall I go.
That's hilarious! I like that quote. That's gotta be one of the best one-liners I've seen in a while.
I logged on last night when my team was down to a handful of bases on AKDesert Pizza. Desperate times call for desperate measures - Panzer battles in the desert until I ran out of VHs to launch from, then it was a couple of failed Hellcat runs and a successful Mustang run. This could be the tour I actually try to learn how to fly the Mustang.
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ROFTLOL I laughed with tears in my eyes!!!! :D :D
Great post wulfie!!! :)
Originally posted by wulfie
I zoom back around and chase one of the Finn 109s into a climb.
"Hey, where's the other Finn 109? Ah, that must be where those tracers are coming from!"
Ping Clank Ping Clank. Check damage - one aeileron and one elev hit. Dive dive dive! Roll and Dive. Ping Clank Ping Ping Clank. He's at range 500 or so now, and he got my other elevator.
I escape him by doing a really shallow (because I have no tail basically) diving scissors. He leaves me alone eventually...
I think I was this other 109. I only saw that aileron come off. :) Was too far away to see the rest I think. :) I was a bit low on the cannon ammo and there was no way catching you in a G-6 so I turned back. :)
Wulfie!! :D