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East Germany theme park planned
Sunday, March 2, 2003 Posted: 5:47 AM EST (1047 GMT)
BERLIN (Reuters) - Hoping to capitalize on a wave of nostalgia for Communist East Germany, a Berlin company is planning to build a theme park that revives life behind the Iron Curtain in the country that disappeared nearly 13 years ago.
Massine Productions GmbH hopes to recreate a 100,000-square-foot replica of East Germany, complete with surly border guards, rigorous customs inspections, authentic East German mark notes, and restaurants with regulation bland East German food.
"The aim isn't to make big joke out of East Germany," said Susanne Reich, a spokeswoman for the company which is expected to invest several million dollars on the project, slated for the southeastern Berlin district of Koepenick.
"It was an important part of Germany's history and the period should be recreated as accurately as possible."
Nostalgia for what was called the German Democratic Republic has lingered ever since reunification in 1990. Known as "Ostalgie," a play on the German words for east and nostalgia, the spirit has given rise to scores of "GDR parties," books, songs and popular films.
A German film "Good Bye, Lenin," in which a man recreates East Germany in a 850-square-foot apartment to protect his ailing mother from the shock of reunification after she comes out of a coma, has surged to the top of the German film charts and more than a million people have been to see it.
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And?
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So?
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i guess I was wondering what people think of this? good? bad? too touchy?
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DDR Disney!
Ve haff vays of makink you ride ze teacups.....
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none of these...
educative I would say.
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Its nostalgia and education and a good way not to forget things (bad or good thats not the question here).
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It's human nature to remember the good while forgetting the bad.
What's next? Hitler's Germany: The Theme Park? Take a ride on the screaming Stuka, oh wait, we already have that, well, without the screaming part. ;)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
DDR Disney!
Ve haff vays of makink you ride ze teacups.....
ROTFLOL!~
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Originally posted by Duedel
Its nostalgia and education and a good way not to forget things (bad or good thats not the question here).
so whats next , a concentration camp theme park , live like a jew for a week, be beaten and starved, its nostalgia and education.
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Originally posted by john9001
so whats next , a concentration camp theme park , live like a jew for a week, be beaten and starved, its nostalgia and education.
It's a equally uncalled and harsh statement.
Ever been in Germany ?
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There were a whole bunch of people on the otherside of that wall who for them communisim was a way of life. When the walls came down they spread out west and infected parts never seen before. If you ask me we made a bad mistake thinking because that wall came down communisim went away, it didn't.
Think about the last anti-war/U.S. protests in Europe you think it was the largest ever because all of the sudden the majority of Europe prior to the supposed end to communisim had a change of mind? Heck no those those li'l red bastiges from the east are all over the place now. Even in German government under some different name wanting to build a new playground for themselves and tell everyone 'see it isn't so bad look at all the fun we had.'
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visiting Berlin was a very educational experience for me. the remants of the Wall and Checkpoint Charlie were very moving. wandering back and forth across Zimmerstraus st at Checkpoint Charlie where a few years before I would have been guned down really made me appreciate the freedoms I have at home.
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It's human nature to remember the good while forgetting the bad.
Well, there are western saloons all over the theme parks. Ah the good old days where you could gun down a redskin and get a free drink at the bar...
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Originally posted by john9001
so whats next , a concentration camp theme park , live like a jew for a week, be beaten and starved, its nostalgia and education.
john9001 this was one of the most educated posts i ever saw. :rolleyes:
Not only that AKIron posted it before (but i guess it was ment as a joke) but also this post shows the absolute lack of brain cells.
john9001 I would suggest to edit this moronic post and learn a the basics about german history.
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Originally posted by Duedel
john9001 I would suggest to edit this moronic post and learn a the basics about german history.
Yes...what exactly is it he needs to learn about German history?
There were no concentration camps in Germany? No jews were starved, tortured, murdered?
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Originally posted by john9001
so whats next , a concentration camp theme park , live like a jew for a week, be beaten and starved, its nostalgia and education.
Not-Quite-ROFL. I`ve been to two concentration camps turned museums - once while in school, once afterwards.
If you ever need a good argument on why germans (the overwhelming majority, we have our share of toejamheads, too) don`t want to start the Adolf toejam again, here`s one.
If you`re over here once, don`t miss the opportunity. Such a visit is a sobering experience.
On topic: Funny stuff. Gonna try for some Margon Cola and Karo smokes hehe.
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*pukes* Might as well make a Nazi them park and have the visitors go through a concentration camp.
This is really fvcked up.
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Duedell,
Exactly what part of German history does he need to learn? Does he need to learn about the shooting of civilians by the east german border guards just because they wanted to live in another part of the world? Does he need to learn about forced labor? Does he need to learn about the ultimate solution to the "jewish problem"?
Just what are you going to educate him about??? Perhaps the lack of braincells is in the one you see in the mirror.
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DDR Disney!
how do you say "it's a small bribe, afterall" in german?
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Liberate these folks, from themselves no less, help them build a workable form of self government and they want to wax nostalgic for oppression and slavery.
Who the hell are we to ridicule.
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Comparing the Nazis with the socialistic (not comunistic) regime of the DDR (that surely was a dictatorship) is sick and simply wrong. Please ask the people grown up in eastern germany they will tell u the little difference.
Many west germans never had a chance to see how the east germans lived. This "theme park" is a great oppotunity to get insights in eastern germanies culture (yes they devolped there own one) and to get enlightened about the Stasi and the dogmatic regime.
Hortlund at least u should know a little bit about that but i guess u have to wave ur pompoms for every little toejam a few uneducated guys post here.
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Originally posted by Maverick
Duedell,
Exactly what part of German history does he need to learn? Does he need to learn about the shooting of civilians by the east german border guards just because they wanted to live in another part of the world? Does he need to learn about forced labor? Does he need to learn about the ultimate solution to the "jewish problem"?
Just what are you going to educate him about??? Perhaps the lack of braincells is in the one you see in the mirror.
You never been in Germany I guess ?
All my german friend (even the youngest) live with the Shoah in mind.
They are very far from being Nazi in fact they are as far from Nazism as they can.
And they know certainly more their history than any American or swedish can.
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Maybe one reason to build such a DDR Disneyland is to show how the life was in DDR-times.
But I think main reason is to make money. So the target group are not the germans but the tourists who are really fascinated to see all these DDR things.
Its like the time when I lived in Berlin and the wall came down.
Every tourist wanted to buy a stone, which was cut out of the wall. And the clever germans sold them every stone they found with some colour on it ;)
If all these "original parts of the wall" would have beeen put together we would be able top build 2 or three walls around Berlin :D
But tourists are nice - they buy everything and gibe money for every nonsense - like Kuckucksuhren or rare real animals like the bavarian Wolpertinger :D :D
So why not offering them a DDR Disneyland to spend there the money ?
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If all these "original parts of the wall" would have beeen put together we would be able top build 2 or three walls around Berlin
LOL! :D
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Doesn't Jesus cross weighted some 3000 ton and was the highest building of this time ?
Some parts were even made of gold :D
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Well I think this is more than just to make money. Many children who were born in the late 80´s or after the change cannot understand when their parents talk about livin in the GDR. Additionally it MIGHT give some in the West a real insight into GDR-life (some still tend to patronize us Ossis about how bad our lives were without knowing anything about the GDR except their own prejudices). It´s a chance - although I rather fear they´ll turn it into a ridiculous money-press ... :(
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Originally posted by Rockstar
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Heck no those those li'l red bastiges from the east are all over the place now. .'
you got to be kidding me.....rocstar tell me you was jokin man:(
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Nope, not one bit.
Somebody needs to call Orkin
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and those are the same people who argue that Rebel flag has nothing to do with slavery ?
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straffo wrote:
And they know certainly more their history than any American or swedish can.
Remember this when ever you decide to say something about the US.
Fd Ski I don't remember seeing the Rebel Flag described in my Redneck Handbook as the symbol of "Pro-Slavery".
Maybe I need to get your copy.
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Originally posted by straffo
You never been in Germany I guess ?
All my german friend (even the youngest) live with the Shoah in mind.
They are very far from being Nazi in fact they are as far from Nazism as they can.
And they know certainly more their history than any American or swedish can.
So Straffo, you are saying nazi's are NOT a part of german history??? You're saying the wall and the shooting of civilians by east german border guards didn't happen??? You are saying jews were not murdered by the germans before and during WW2????
You are saying that east germans didn't try to get into west germany to live a better life????
What part of this is not the history of germany including the east???
PS here's a clue, history means before the last 2 weeks you know.
:rolleyes:
Didn't the germans kinda occupy france rather recently.......maybe in the last 60 years or so????? I think it had something to do with the effectiveness of the maginot line and an end run through Belgium or something.....
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Originally posted by straffo
none of these...
educative I would say.
educative...is this a new word?:confused:
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Never mind, I looked it up. Actually is a word, my apologies for ever doubting any member of this august body.;)
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Originally posted by Maverick
So Straffo, you are saying nazi's are NOT a part of german history??? You're saying the wall and the shooting of civilians by east german border guards didn't happen??? You are saying jews were not murdered by the germans before and during WW2????
Neither did straffo said that the nationalsocialistic movement was not part of our history nor that the Nazis are not gulity in killing homosexuals, jews, gipsies, socialists, communists and whoever was defined as Untermenschen in their mad ideology.
But today there are no more german Nazis than in the USA or Russia or other countries - running around with their swastica flags and dreaming their mad dreams.
The majority of Germany hate Nazis as we also dislike stupid internal german policy just in order to get power.
This picture of the carneval in Germany few days ago is a good example:
http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/fotogalerie/karneval/karneval__
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Maverick no need to be like your handle.
I know my english is far from being good but it's not bad to the point you cannot undertand my post.
Or you forgot to read some words re-read my post please.
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Originally posted by slimm50
Never mind, I looked it up. Actually is a word, my apologies for ever doubting any member of this august body.;)
no problem Slimm :)
I often think of a french word ...
then I try to make it sound englich ...
sometime it work sometime it fail :D
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Originally posted by Rockstar
There were a whole bunch of people on the otherside of that wall who for them communisim was a way of life. When the walls came down they spread out west and infected parts never seen before. If you ask me we made a bad mistake thinking because that wall came down communisim went away, it didn't.
Think about the last anti-war/U.S. protests in Europe you think it was the largest ever because all of the sudden the majority of Europe prior to the supposed end to communisim had a change of mind? Heck no those those li'l red bastiges from the east are all over the place now. Even in German government under some different name wanting to build a new playground for themselves and tell everyone 'see it isn't so bad look at all the fun we had.'
Bet you never talked to a a so called communist .
There were millions of people who grew up in the DDR.
They gave their best to make things work and when the whole toejamhouse went down in flames they lost everything they belived in.
Wasn't their fault that they were born into that situation.
Wasn't their fault that they hadn't a (free) press to build them themselves a picture of the world.
Wasn't their fault that they all of a sudden were unemployed after the wall has fallen.
Wasn't their fault that they never got the chance to choose a government by a fair and free election.
These people had fallen in a very deep hole and i still feel sorry for many of them.
Was mostly bad luck for them, nothin else.
The only reason why you and me are not educated as communists is just luck, nothin to be proud of .
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain ridiculous