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Title: The dutch once had a carrier
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on March 10, 2003, 04:41:40 AM: And my father served on it .
He flew a lot with the siskorski heli also as standby rescue for planes that crashed into the water on landing or take of.

The carrier Karel Dorman is later bought to Argentina .

Here some pic agot from the net , but my dad got a 3 albums full of photo's and some 20 boxes full with dia's
Title: The dutch once had a carrier
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on March 10, 2003, 04:51:43 AM: one more
Title: The dutch once had a carrier
Post by: Habu on March 10, 2003, 06:35:17 AM: Canada had one too. They still had it in the early 60's.

Two points to anyone who knows the name of it.
Title: The dutch once had a carrier
Post by: straffo on March 10, 2003, 06:42:44 AM: Magnificent
feked ISP keep cutting my connect ...
Title: The dutch once had a carrier
Post by: Habu on March 10, 2003, 06:51:34 AM: Quote
Originally posted by straffo
Magnificent
feked ISP keep cutting my connect ...

Actually they got rid of the Magnificent in the 50's. This is a picture of the last one they had. I think it was decommissioned in the late 60's. I knew a guy who flew off of it. He said it was like landing on a postage stamp. "Not like those big Yank carriers".

(http://www.naval-museum.mb.ca/ships/carrier/bonnie.jpg)
Title: The dutch once had a carrier
Post by: straffo on March 10, 2003, 06:56:53 AM: Look like he can have a qualification for French CV :D

We even build CV shorter than the minimal take-off lenght of some planes ...
Title: The dutch once had a carrier
Post by: Hangtime on March 10, 2003, 11:02:11 AM: looks to me like both the dutch and canadian carriers were former USS Essex class CV's.
Title: The dutch once had a carrier
Post by: Charon on March 10, 2003, 11:18:39 AM: I believe they were British Colossus class carriers. Smaller than an Essex but larger than a typical escort type carrier. Quite a few of those were shopped out after the war.

Charon
Title: The dutch once had a carrier
Post by: Gman on March 10, 2003, 11:30:51 AM: Habu: HMCS Bonaventure.

I'll take my 2 points.

BTW, some of it's AAA guns sit about 2 blocks from my place.
Title: The dutch once had a carrier
Post by: LePaul on March 10, 2003, 02:07:34 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Habu
Canada had one too. They still had it in the early 60's.

Two points to anyone who knows the name of it.

"Scrap Metal" ?

:p
Title: The dutch once had a carrier
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on March 10, 2003, 03:55:06 PM: Quote
I believe they were British Colossus class carriers. Smaller than an Essex but larger than a typical escort type carrier. Quite a few of those were shopped out after the war.

yep charon ur right :)
Title: The dutch once had a carrier
Post by: Habu on March 11, 2003, 08:34:53 AM: We have a winner. You can read more about Canada's aircraft carriers at:

Aircraft Carriers (http://www.naval-museum.mb.ca/ships/carriers.htm)

or here:

All British Aircraft Carriers (hunt for the Canadian ones) (http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Ships/Aircraftcarrierindex.html)

When the Suez crisis erupted, MAGNIFICENT had just completed landing stores for her successor, a more modern carrier whose construction had been suspended in 1946. The successor s name was to have been HMS Powerful, but the RCN decided to rename her BONAVENTURE after the bird sanctuary in the Gulf of St. Lawrence. Work on this ship had stopped three months after her launching in February, 1945, with the result that when construction resumed in 1952, improvements could be built into her. The most notable of these was the angled flight deck, which provided a longer landing run without sacrificing forward parking space, and permitted the removal of the unpopular crash barrier. Also noteworthy were a steam catapult and a mirror landing sight, the latter going far toward eliminating human error in landing.

The "Bonnie" was commissioned at Belfast on January 17, 1957, and arrived at Halifax on June 26, carrying on deck an experimental hydrofoil craft that was to serve in the development of HMCS Bras d’Or. Unlike her predecessors, BONAVENTURE had Banshee jet fighters and Tracker A/S aircraft as her complement. Like them, she enjoyed a busy career of flying training and participation in A/S and tactical exercises with ships of other NATO nations. What was expected to be her mid-life refit, carried out from 1966 to 1967, took 16 months and cost over $11 Million. This cost proved to be too high for Canada's Navy, as she was paid off in 1970, and sold for scrap.

All of this class carried 30 aircraft and had a maximum speed of 24 kts.

HMCS BONAVENTURE 22 HW, Decomissioned 1 Jul 70, Ex-RN HMS POWERFUL. Displacement 16,000 tonnes. Armed with 4x3" (2 barrelled) guns plus 8x40mm bofor.

HMCS MAGNIFICENT 21 HW Sold to Argentina Jun 57, Ex-RN HMS MAGNIFICENT. Displacement 15,700 tonnes. Armed with 3x3" (2 barrelled) guns plus 18x40mm bofor.

HMCS WARRIOR 31 HW 12 Dec 42, 20 May 44, 24 Jan 46, 23 Mar 48, Ex-RN HMS WARRIOR. Displacement 13,350 tonnes. Armed with 24-2pdr (6 x IV) guns plus 19x40mm bofors.