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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: davidpt40 on March 13, 2003, 03:12:10 AM
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http://www.bordergatewayprotocol.net/~jon/media/because/
You have to be very courageous to go through life looking like that.
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I have a hard rule:
If I have had anything to drink, I don't drive. End of story.
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Thats a very good idea Karnak. Even if you aren't drunk, they can still nab you on the breathaliser test. First time offenders lose their license for a year I believe.
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same rule for me Karnak
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First time offenders lose their license for a year I believe.
I can personally attest to that.
I did a *ton* of drinkin' and drivin' in my college days... and for all the bad toejam that coulda happened, I reckon losing my license for a year was a lesson that came cheap.
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never drive when i drink, and the day after i let the car stay until afternoon.
Hangover driving is just as bad.
here we loose the license 2 years + the cost for retaking it (about 2150$) + 10 % of what you earn a year goes to the taxman as a extra ticket :D
but as nash say that is cheap vs killing somone drunkdriving.
limit is 0,2
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Originally posted by air_guard
never drive when i drink, and the day after i let the car stay until afternoon.
Hangover driving is just as bad.
here we loose the license 2 years + the cost for retaking it (about 2150$) + 10 % of what you earn a year goes to the taxman as a extra ticket :D
but as nash say that is cheap vs killing somone drunkdriving.
limit is 0,2
as the link illustrates, there are fates worse than death...
problem is when ur drunk, you think you're invincible
ANY impaired driving should carry strict and ENFORCED penalties. Riding the city bus for a couple of years would make the lesson sink in...
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a taxi is cheap vs a life :)
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How absolutely horrible. :(
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Originally posted by Karnak
I have a hard rule:
If I have had anything to drink, I don't drive. End of story.
If I have a couple beers while out for dinner with wife, friends, I'll eat while consuming them, and have coffee after, certainly a good hour or two before getting behind the wheel..but I have to admit, when I was a teenager, I did drink and drive, very stupid, and I'm fortunate I never drank so much that I lost control of the vehicle I was driving.
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Rip, that's why you chose a BMW. The darned thing drives for you :D
In my case, I don't usually drink and when I do it never exceeds the occasional glass of wine, so...
Daniel
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Originally posted by CyranoAH
Rip, that's why you chose a BMW. The darned thing drives for you :D
Daniel
BMW's are one of the few cars that one needs to be at his/her utmost sober state, if you drove one, you'd know what I mean. ;)
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Gimme time Rip, I'm still saving! :D
Daniel
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I try to follow the 1 hr rule. 1 hr for each drink consumed after stopping drinking. So 3 beers, means 3 hrs after the last one I'll drive.
I've never gotten behind the wheel drunk before. I have gotten behind the wheel at some awful hour after taking a nap after drinking earlier in the evening. I wasn't "drunk" but I was extremely sleepy. I started falling asleep after going over a 3 mile long bridge. Going into the grass not far after the bridge got enough adrenaline flowing to jerk me awake enough to make it safely home. I was 17 at the time. :( Was lucky I didn't hit a mailbox or worse, a tree.
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Originally posted by CyranoAH
Gimme time Rip, I'm still saving! :D
Daniel
It took me 27 years! Hopefully you'll beat my record! :)
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What a sad story, gonna show it to my 19 year old.
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there is allway hope Cyrano :)
instead of a serie 3 you can have a superb Q3T :
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i never drink and drive......
might spill my drink.
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seriously.. No I don't drink and drive...
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Lost a friend to a drunk driver my freshman year of high school. I think that's kept me sober behind the wheel since.
Looking at those pictures, I wonder what would be worse... dying or having to live like that. :(
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
It took me 27 years! Hopefully you'll beat my record! :)
I actually have the money now, but I would have to live inside the car... that doesn't look too appealing :D
With 100 sq.m. appartments costing no less than €360.000 around here, the BMW has to wait :)
Daniel
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luckly I figured it out early.
for the price of your first DUI offence you can hire a limo to drive you home once a week for a year. no drunk driving here.
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sober drivers kill twice as many people as drinking drivers , but i know , sober drivers have "accidents"
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Have any of you seen the other 'lady' in the campaign? She was a little bit older than this girl, almost as pretty. I assume its flames that cause the damage, but her face was even more horribley burned. She survived, but is fully blind, and now lectures at schools about drunk driving.
I definately know I couldn't live if I was totally burned up. Not even sure if I could keep going on if I burned someone else up like this. Fate much worse than death.
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Used to be stupid in college - drove back and forth from bars/parties, but then I lost a friend to an alcohol related accident... not anymore.
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Originally posted by john9001
sober drivers kill twice as many people as drinking drivers , but i know , sober drivers have "accidents"
This is an idiotic argument. Why? Drunk drivers and sober drivers would have to each be responsible for 50% of the driving miles. In actuallity sober drivers do 99% or more of the driving miles, yet this "argument" would imply that the odds are near even.
Because sober drivers kill twice as many people as drunk drivers despite having what, 100, 200, times the yearly miles? In other words sober drivers kill more people simply because they drive so much more. A drunk driver is vastly more likely to do so if you look at the deaths per mile driven for drunk drivers and sober drivers.
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This reminds me of the military. If there was an accident, they'd ask you if you'd had anything to drink in the last 24 hours. If you said yes, the accident was alcohol related.
I drive 20 miles to work every day. I drive during light traffic in the morning and heavy traffic in the afternoon. Half of the drive is city (downtown to suburbs) and the other half is highway.
From all that driving, I have one simple observation: 10% of all people driving cars are simply idiots. I'd like to get all hung up on drunk drivers, but I see more accidents and near accidents caused by cell phone drivers. I see SUVs being driven like they were sports cars and I see people simply doing stupid things while driving.
Someone has a couple of beers (if it was a couple and not the "a couple" someone tells cops they had) and gets in an accident, the accident was somehow caused by the drinking. Ignore the fact that this was a 17 year old kid. Ignore the fact that teenage boys are the most reckless drivers on the face of the earth sober.
Be responsible. Drive safely. Watch out for those that aren't. My guess is more than a couple if not all of these rules weren't observed in this situation.
MiniD
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Such a sexy lady, then drinking did that too her, :(
Thats gonna stick in my head forever, I'm probably only gonna drink at home, if ever...
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That figure is extremely generous.
I'd lean more towards 70% of drivers are idiots.
with another 10% who are zombies.
Originally posted by Mini D
From all that driving, I have one simple observation: 10% of all people driving cars are simply idiots. MiniD
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im not going to lie, i drink and drive i know its wrong but im not going to wait for a even drunker person to drive me home or pay for a taxi. I know its stupid but hey im young and nothing can happen to me. J/K i stop drinking after 2 beers, if i have more i wait 1 1/2 hours per beer to drive home.
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This woman was a student here in Austin. The accident that left her like that happened here, and the local paper has kept up with her since then. Check out this (http://www.austin360.com/aas/specialreports/jacqui/index.html) link if you want to read about her story. Its sad, but also pretty inspiring.
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Anyone who drinks or drives should be tried for a new charge; intentional attempted manslaughter.
I loathe people who drink and drive. It is such low behaviour, such reckless endangering of innocents.
It should be automatically punishable by at least 4 years in jail IMHO.
There is NO excuse, short of medical emergency, to drive while high, drunk or otherwise influenced by drugs.
Anyone who's seen the victims of drunk driving (I have) and doesn't have the same opinion as me is either a heartless bastard or a drunk driver.
No amount of 'I am sorry' can repair trashed lives due to drunk driving.
Heh, now I've managed to work myself up to a semi-rage
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I think I am going to keep a fire exstinguisher in my truck from now on. Maybe everyone should.
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my brother, my only and younger brother, was 25 when he hit the tree, his passenger, his roomate 24
she had a 3 year old boy
Tony had almost 1.5 times the legal limit when he rounded the corner and lost control of his truck. He could always hold his beer. But a combo of bad roads (washed out shoulder on a Virgina two lane country road), wet from mist, dark - 9pm , going 70 on a 40 curve & alcohol induced piss poor judgement .. was more than he could handle that night, those split seconds. They had to cut them out of the truck ..........
that was almost 14 years ago .. not a day goes by I do not think of him and then the stupid stupid choice he made. I'm sure there isn't a day her 17 year old young man doesn't think about it either & wonders what it'd been like to grow up with his mother ...........
don't drink and drive ... it's about more than just you.
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I see a lot of boaters that are dead drunk on the lake, my marine radio has helped catch a few < eg >
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I don't drink, ever.
just a personal choice.
but, I can still be killed by those who make bad decisions.
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I used to back in the day, thought I was immortal. last time was on my 30th birthday.. they threw me a party and everyone bought me drinks.. I got really blasted. then closing time came and I was on my VFR 750, and about 5 miles from home. the next thing I remember was waking up in bed not knowing how I got home. So I looked outside and the bike was not scratched. I realized I had ridden home and not remembered it. It scared the toejam out of me how close to hot screaming death I had come. Never even thought of doing that again.
Working in a police department, I see when they bring in the cars to evidence. all sorts of guts n glass and the creative ways human bodies go thru windshields.
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My ex-girlfriends brother hit a car while drunk. He now has to go through life with the fact that there's a woman out there going through her life with one arm.
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I drink and drive all the time. I'm roughly NFL lineman sized and I can hold my liquor. I don't get drunk and drive though. If I get drunk I call a cab or take public transportation or just sleep it off.
Originally posted by Mini D
This reminds me of the military. If there was an accident, they'd ask you if you'd had anything to drink in the last 24 hours. If you said yes, the accident was alcohol related.
That's pretty much how they compile the stats in the US. Drunk driving is bad ummmmkay, but it's not nearly as big a problem as the safety nazis tell us it is. Ditto speed related accidents.
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I was waiting for some people I knew to reply to this thread. I'm for responsibility.
I've not driven home from "Cigar and Scotch" night a few times because I didn't trust myself behind the wheel of a car. I've never gotten fallendown drunk there, but I have felt as if my reaction time was too bad to hit the roads. Usually, that was followed with an extended stay and lots of coffee and water (as in 4 hours). The bartender there is pretty good at "suggesting" things like this too.
But I've had a Scotch and a Beer and driven home. I will continue to do so on Thursday evenings. The judgement I use on the road is the same I use when deciding if its OK to get on the road or not. If that judgement were bad, the alcohol is not really the issue... the person's judgement is.
MiniD
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Yep if you have any doubt as to whether you are impaired or not, don't drive. As somebody pointed out above, the costs of taxis are a lot less than the costs of a DUI conviction or an accident.
I'm always amazed by these celebrities that keep getting nailed for DUI. Somebody with tens of millions of dollars, and they are too cheap to spring for a cab. Hell with that money they could buy a Benz and a driver to follow them around 24-7.
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Not all trauma is to the body. Scars run very deep indeed.
How many folks keep a first aid kit and small fire extinguisher in their cars for emergencies? I'd wager not many, even though they're available at most auto supply stores and discount supermarkets. It doesn't take a drunk driver to cause an accident.
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a fire extingusher wont save you from a fuel fed fire as most vehicle fires are. best bet is a window punch and haul bellybutton if you can.
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Such a sexy lady, then drinking did that too her, :(
Thats gonna stick in my head forever, I'm probably only gonna drink at home, if ever...
She wasnt even drinking. A drunk driver hit her car.
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I'm damn lucky to be alive and I am not proud of the state in which I have driven vehicles in the past. Lets just say I don't do it anymore.... ever.
I have no problem with harsh DD laws either.
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only when I'm drunk :)
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I'll admit it, i have driven drunk more times than i'd like to admit. Awhile back i got busted too. I had about 6 beers and then drove to a friends house about 3 hours after my last pint. I felt fine but got pulled over for a headlight being out (hit a deer the week before, and no i wasnt drunk when that happened.)
I went through all the field sobriety tests just fine but the cop made me take a breathalyzer anyway. I didnt care becuase i felt totally sober. Turns out I blew a fail. I was toejamting my pants but as it turns out the cop used to work at a local pub and I had helped him break up a few fights when he worked there.
He let me off, which NEVER happens in the city I live in. It was a real wake up call blowing over .08 when i felt fine. Ever since then If i drink anymore than a single beer i wont drive for the entire night. I figure i was given a second chance so i better not be stupid and waste it.
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I have a RULE too.
If your drunk and you hit any of my family!
You will never make it out of the courtroom alive.
Look i worked on an ambulance for 8 years i have seen all the toejam that happendes to people when idiots decide there fun is more important than the publics safety.
I will gladly spend my days in prison but a drunk driver will DIE for his crime if he invovles my family!!
You may say im full of toejam but those who know me know im for real on this.
Its such an easy crime to prevent.
To me a drunk driver is no better than a child molestor!!!
Thats right there both are robbing someone of there child hood.
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There is more to this story:
http://www.helpjacqui.com/
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I am 45 years old 6'4" 255lbs and an US ARMY vet.
After seeing this young womans story I will admit i cried.
And then I became sick to my stomach.
To all you young and OLD dudes out there think before you drink
cause it aint just about you!
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Well..... I found it disturbing as all hell... but at least I didn't cry :p.
Think that'd be the best way to stop drunk driving to be honest.... just put a before and after picture at the exit door to the bar.
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Rgr that RC51. This girl had everything going for her. Bilingual, engineering student, good looking.
I am not sure how scar tissue works. Maybe, just maybe, many years from now doctors can 'grow' a new face for her from stem cell tissue and some of her dna.
But until then she has to endure and maintain
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Man, that is a nice thought... I think it is a fantasy, but god it would be nice.
Of course, if you look back at even the last 70 years or so, we (as a world) have made HUGE strides in the medical field, maybe it will be possible in the next 50-60 years for that to become a reality.