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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SKurj on March 15, 2003, 10:00:21 AM
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Hopefully the end of the free promo will reduce this somewhat...
There are certain players who feel that channel 1 and AH gives them the right to start political debates... yeah yeah and I was sucked in by one of em on this point Who went on to rave that he has freedom of speech...
Think most of us who play regularly know who these players are... They don't come to play the game, they get so deeply engrossed in their troll/debate that I can't see how they could possibly have time to fly as well.
During the free promo there have been some of the biggest rants on channel 1 I have ever seen, and I feel it reflects poorly on the game BIGTIME. Perhaps moderators with mute powers might have saved a few new accounts...
SKurj
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I finally squelched it
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Agreed. Channel one should be reserved for philosophy, mathematics, and occasional discourses into the nature of the mind.
Freud? Yes! Sports? No!
Dostoevsky? Yes! Taunting enemies? No!
Collegiate discussions? Yes! Casual conversation? No!
End the awful barbaric channel one talk, let us all agree to confine our conversations to nothing but the highest intellectual discourse.
I look forward to debating the merits of Xunzi and Mencius's take on the concept of human nature, perhaps followed by a delightful romp through Elizabethian-poetry.
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wuss
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I know, wetrat, you prefer post-modernistic deconstruction to Elizabethian poetry, but we should confine those disagreements to Channel 1 in the game, the etheric repository of deep thought.
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Hooters? Yes Chairboy? No ............................. ..:cool:
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LOL chairboy :D Was directed at skurj.. he knows what I'm talking about :)
I doubt I'll live to see the day where people have a discussion about Confucian philosophy or the like on channel 1.
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But the point has been made, many times, that this is a WW2 simulator not a chat room. If people want to chat mIRC is free and avalable for download at many sites.
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.squelch 1
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"to rave that he has freedom of speech... "
Do we really have freedom of speech while chatting through hitechcreations product? Is it their rules or the highway?
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Confucious say "He who talk politics on ch1 get squelched"
And "he who go to bed with itchy bum, wake up with smelly finger"
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Gee, Sixpence, that's really deep.
Regards, Shuckins
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Nah, ol' Conf would probably have something about benevolence and Jen in there with the itchy bum thing.
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I did Jen, she was even kinda cute.. but I left before morning
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I think theres nothing wrong with having a conversation on channel 1, be it political or not. Thats a conversation, an argument on the other hand has no place on channel 1...Which is where most polotical conversation end up...In a stupid argument between 2 or more people.
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what the He are we suppose to do when It takes 15 to 20 min. climbing over some of these gawd awful mountains, but rant rave and type our little hearts out on channel 1, its just typing get over it :rolleyes:
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These rants on channel 1 will have undoubtedly been seen by newbs... These rants will have also interfered with newb's questions.
Players have been removed due to their channel 1 presence in the past... maybe it will happen again...
SKurj
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As annoying as it may be, there are currently no rules dictating what can/cannot be discussed on channel 1. The squelch feature is there for this reason.
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Then how about as a new default channel 1 be squelched
SKurj
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When I first started playing AH I squelched channel 1 on entry, simply because I couldn't deal with the avalanche of text
Then I thought to myself that since I was counting myself a member of the AH community, it was about time I started participating. What was the point of closing yourself off to the conversations with that larger community? So, a couple of months ago, I started not squelching channel 1.
What a huge mistake that was. It's not just the avalanche or racial and national slurs, and the constant stream of more garden-variety insults ("Hey 109. You suck!"). Lately it's been, as pointed out, the pointless political "discussions" (i.e. the creation of another topic through which you can refine your insult vocabulary), but the noobs who don't want to learn who abuse everyone in sight, and the noobs who do want to learn but get nothing but smartass answers to even their very good questions.
So, lesson learned. No more channel 1 for me. And I would agree completely with Skurj that it should be squelched as a default, because for a new player Channel 1 at the moment is about the worst advertisement for this game and its "community" that there is.
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Yep, it's often a sad state of affairs and more recently I've been having to squelch 1... so if I ignore anyone you know why! :)
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You know you guys are as bad as the people suing McDonalds because it made them fat. Give it a rest!!!!
You can squelch channel 1, but that is not good enough, you have to remove liberties from everyone because you can't deal with it.
Yes some people get out of hand and can be down right rude, so what, get over it. Seek them out and shoot them down, vulch them off the runway, but quit crying. With all do respect you sound like a bunch of babies. He called me this, he said something rude, he is teasing me, I'm telling hi tech. whaaa whaaa whaaaa.
Me I laugh my prettythang off at all the people that get sucked in by the losers on channel one. Be the bigger person and just ignore it! And if you can't deal Squelch it, but leave the rest of us alone.
mars01 - MAW Balcksheep
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I like Ch. 1 for conversations with pilots I've known for a long time that fly for another country. I just ignore the other banter on there. If it gets too overwhelming, then sometimes I do squelch it.
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Doctor, it hurts when I do this....
Channel 1 is what it is(profound, I know);)
Your not gonna change it. If you complain to those that annoy you they will simply get worse. The only thing that can affect channel 1 is a decision by HTC to reprimand and then mute targeted players. Does HT p*ss off some of the paying customers to appease some others? That's a sticky mess that I doubt he wants to get into. Squelch is a benign solution that works well...
I mean you gotta understand that the internet is a place where folks can attempt to acheive their little ego victories with aggressive speech and not worry about any negative consequences (like an arse whoopin'), so there's always going to be a percentage of the population that shows their maturity and shoots their mouth off whenever possible.
Let it go man, there are plenty of other things to stress about;)
A hit on the ol' bong before logging in might help:cool:
Do you folks attempt to control your wives, girlfriends, family etc. when they don't do what you like? (I know, this IS a cheap attempt at a childish ego victory:D)
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We should have a ch 1.5 for
's and such... Those are a good thing, and missed if u squelch. 1.5 needs to be unsquelchable, but also under THIGHT surveillance by the thought police for any non-flying stuff.
Then free up ch 1 as the "gay liberal french-bashing teenage-politician"-channel. I belive they (I) will ALWAYS need a way to express themself (myself), toilet walls available or not... So let them have a channel.
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i find chan 1 worth the 14.99 monthly charge on its own for the broad base of opinions that it offers. This could be construed as being an education by learning that your opinion is not always the same as everyone elses.
I never squelch chan 1, just mindless individuals who are beyond any mental help. :D
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There is a real opportunity here for HTC to create a third game that costs way more than it's worth but in the process keeps the mental midgets from paying and playing. I mean why does a person go to an expensive restaurant? partly because the high prices keep the riff-raff out;)
Whenever I go camping on the lake I always pay for the $20 per night camp areas so I don't have to worry about the rednecks in the site next to me getting drunk and at 2AM vomiting in my Coleman stove...but I digress
We could call it AH2: (fill in the blank)
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Originally posted by Magoo
Doctor, it hurts when I do this....
I mean you gotta understand that the internet is a place where folks can attempt to acheive their little ego victories with aggressive speech and not worry about any negative consequences (like an arse whoopin'), so there's always going to be a percentage of the population that shows their maturity and shoots their mouth off whenever possible.
This is all true. However, since the Internet is, as you point out, so full of places where people can be a dickhead, the question is, why do they feel compelled to do it here? Just because you can do it somewhere doesn't mean that you should do it everywhere (OK, sex may be the exception to that statement, but you get the point!).
I don't advocate extra muting or anything like that. As many people point out, we have the squelch command (soon to be supplemented with a personal squelch list???). But we also shouldn't pretend that this kind of behavior doesn't have any consequences, or argue that the "problem" is with the people who get annoyed by it.
Because one of the things I've noticed recently, and this is new, is that what I used to think of as typical channel 1 behavior is now spilling over into the country channels. I don't know what it's like in rook and knight land, but if you're a bishop, god help you if you're new to the game and ask a reasonable question (I'm not talking about the people who haven't bothered to glance at the help files; even they, however, probably deserve a little more courtesy than they usually get): if you ask for help you will get crapped on from a great height; if you are lucky, you'll get maybe one person who will give you a good answer and 5 people who will try to impress you with their text-phallus. I'm not sure people who have been on here for a while remember what a steep learning curve this thing has, even if you are coming from box sim world.
BTW, what happened to the trainer option that we had to help people new to the game? Did that just disappear?
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Heh heh...He said Phallus....
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Its almost like the game needs a persistant squelch/ignore feature. A radical concept, I know. But ground breaking ideas are my thing.
Doing the .squelch 6, .squelch 1...and on most nights .squelch 2 if we had it...at every login brings these sorts of "killer" ideas to the fore though, you know. Just don't let the big guns like Verant, Mythic, Turbine, EA, etc know or they'll all be doing it too!
...er, wait, nevermind that.
Well, I guess its cause saving those little texts files from one session to the next is HARD, you know...and then you have to load them again and everything. Sheesh! Fella wants a holiday just thinking about it.
....hmm, maybe if we used VB?
;->
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Get rid of channel 1 full stop,its supposed to be a simulated war isnt it? imagine WW2 if they had a channel 1 lol 'Look chaps,stop talking to jerry,we're trying to fly a sweep here' ditch Ch1,we should only be able to transmit to our own chaps,sheep..whatever..
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Originally posted by Joc
....imagine WW2 if they had a channel 1
You have to admit it would have been funny with all those Kurt Tank jokes and Spitdweeb whines and the inevitable cry of perk the P-51D and Spitfires.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by TheflyingElk
what the He are we suppose to do when It takes 15 to 20 min. climbing over some of these gawd awful mountains, but rant rave and type our little hearts out on channel 1, its just typing get over it :rolleyes:
1) smoke a cigarette
2) surf porn
3) get a new beer
4) haze the enemy you are headed towards
5) pick your nose
6) scratch a body part
Hell anything that doesn’t involve a soap box and channel 1, how about that ;).
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hiya first post here.....
i too, started my second trial that HITech sent to old trialers, and noticed alot more clutter on normal "chat" than i rememberd before, it was (and still is) annoying to post a message too my team only to have it dissapear off the chatlog (even the extended chatlog) within 30seconds due to some kids talking about how lame Bush is etc :rolleyes:
pfft Play the game, or download IRC PLEASE :)
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lol. great game same story.
Blue 42, blue 68
yo mommas a seeing eyed donkey arse (replaces arse with ass) plate.
75834034-2=211 * by the square root of my arse hollllleee a miiiii ooooo
(shit re-read what I just typed and have no friggin clue what it means enjoy)
QB spike.
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personally skurj if the newbs are to lazy to DL the help file or print out the key commands , well screw em, as far as the political stuff welp i got this lil device htc snuck into the game that if ya have the key commands you know how ta do it, .squelch 1, pretty fuggin simply aint it, hey it werks to:p
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Agreed. Channel one should be reserved for philosophy, mathematics, and occasional discourses into the nature of the mind.
Freud? Yes! Sports? No!
Dostoevsky? Yes! Taunting enemies? No!
Collegiate discussions? Yes! Casual conversation? No!
End the awful barbaric channel one talk, let us all agree to confine our conversations to nothing but the highest intellectual discourse.
I look forward to debating the merits of Xunzi and Mencius's take on the concept of human nature, perhaps followed by a delightful romp through Elizabethian-poetry.
SShhhh! We don't Socrates to come back!
or do we?
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SKurj,
Personally, I squelch "1" most of the time, so the topics of discussion there remain for the most part, mystical.
However, yet again "lonerangr" as has been his style lately began another volley of politcal spew on OUR channel, "2" .
As well, much of his language is reprehensible, and I don't understand why HTC hasn't revoked his flying priveleges under the Terms Of Service agreement.
Squelching him does no good, either, as he ruffles so many feathers that even the quietest of Rooks begin blasting him for his soapbox preaching.
I think along with HTCs liberal "free flying" policy should come some sort monitoring of what's going on there, especially as of late.
If not, the ability to squelch Channel 2 would be an alternative of sorts, although it'd be cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.
Regards, Oddball
Cactus Air Force
http://www.cactusairforce.org
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Originally posted by Oddball-CAF
SKurj,
Personally, I squelch "1" most of the time, so the topics of discussion there remain for the most part, mystical.
However, yet again "lonerangr" as has been his style lately began another volley of politcal spew on OUR channel, "2" .
As well, much of his language is reprehensible, and I don't understand why HTC hasn't revoked his flying priveleges under the Terms Of Service agreement.
LOL, Lonerngr couldn`t buy a clue with a Visa Gold and a winning Lotto ticket. :D
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Why can't it remember your squelch settings like it does your head positions?
I would love to not have to go through my normal log on squelching routine of individuals I know I will never want to hear from including channel 1...
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Well LAST night the diatribe moved to channel 2 on Rooks..and ill say his name Lonerngr....squelched 1 to shut him up..THEN he fluff'n starts his anarchist crap on 2..squelch him...ultimately about 9 other guys..I would pay EXTRA to keep this ******* outta the game
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"MA .... There are egos in there that are so large they don't print books big enough to hold all the words needed to describe them." - 2flie[/U]
LMAO!!!! True-ism:rolleyes:
" .Squelch 1 "[/U] :eek:
I do agree with bj229 about loneranger... Im just glad that once I (finally) squelched him on ch1, I didnt have to read his crap on ch2.
...guess that is one advantage of bieng bish :p
420Fatty
Birds Of Prey
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We NEED members of the community,respected members,to be possibly be appointed 'monitors' with minor powers such as the ability to remove someones radio rights for say,30 mins/hour,this is one thing I miss from AW,was nice having 'Staff' about,the swearing is out of control,the racist talk IS out of control,and the political stuff is out of control,either get rid of channel 1 altogether,OR have players police the radio channels,it shouldnt be down to HT and the others,they have a lot on their hands etc,its a player created problem,so its up to US to stamp it out.
People need to grow up.
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Originally posted by Joc
We NEED members of the community,respected members,to be possibly be appointed 'monitors' with minor powers such as the ability to remove someones radio rights for say,30 mins/hour,this is one thing I miss from AW,was nice having 'Staff' about,the swearing is out of control,the racist talk IS out of control,and the political stuff is out of control,either get rid of channel 1 altogether,OR have players police the radio channels,it shouldnt be down to HT and the others,they have a lot on their hands etc,its a player created problem,so its up to US to stamp it out.
People need to grow up.
There are a select few that have been bestowed moderator powers but they seem more concerned with just policing language instead of idiots like Goopie and lonerngr.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I like Ch. 1 for conversations with pilots I've known for a long time that fly for another country. I just ignore the other banter on there. If it gets too overwhelming, then sometimes I do squelch it.
exactly, we can take it or leave it. squealch it , just dont read it or type away and get involved.Ive never had a conversation on ch 1 make me stop playing.If it starts to annoy I ignore it, usually just as i see my next dogfight :D.