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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SpitLead on March 27, 2001, 06:21:00 AM
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Ok, now that 1.06 with the new planes is barely a month old I'd thought I'd start a new thread again on what airplanes we'd like to see in the next update. Maybe we can influence HTC.
Some of these planes may be perk planes and I'll leave that to HT to figure out. Personally, I'd like to see the following:
B-29 Superfort (need another heavy bomber other than the Lanc)
IL-2 (gotta have another tank buster other than the CHog)or maybe the Stuka with the twin 37mm guns or P-39 with 37mm.
Spit XIV
ME262
Tiger Tank (need a new GV to spice things up) This may be a perk GV.
LST (GV for beach assualts on coastal bases)
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I like all of these but I'd really like to see some Japanese a/c modelled. How about the finest overall performing Japanese plane to see action, the Ki.84? Or the J2M Raiden, Ki.61, or Ki.100? Or a great groundpounder, the Ki.102? Or the Judy, which gives the Japanese a nice CV-based attack a/c? Or a tough level bomber, the Ki67 Peggy?
It just seems to me the Japanese are severely underrepresented in this sim.
I'd also like to see the SB2C Helldiver, the Mosquito, the Me-410 Hornet, and a perk U.S. fighter like the P-47M, the P-51H, the F4U-4, or the F8F Bearcat.
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Yes! What oboe said.
I personally would like to see the J2Mx Raiden.
-westy
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Yes indeed, more Japanese aircraft plz! Probably never see it but would sure like to have a Ki-43 Oscar.
BTW a Kate and Val would sure go a long way toward rounding the planeset out for events!
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In no particular order, I would like to see any of these:-
Ju87 37mm version
Ju52
Me110
Me410
He177
Hurricane IIB/C/D
Beaufighter Mk21 (Aussie)
Mosquito (Bomber & Fighter/Attack)
A20 Havoc (French markings)
Pe3
Il2
MiG3
P63
B29
P39
Japanese buff/fighter
Italian buff
US tank
Float plane?
I understand that a Landing craft is being worked on. I'm not all that au fait with Japanese and Italian aircraft but I agree that bombers from their countries are needed.
I would like to see a 109E4 and He111 but I don't see any need for them just yet mostly because there are plenty of 109s and the He111 wouldn't be too different from the Ju88 IMO. I would dearly love to see the Mosquito or Beaufighter as they are both among my favourite planes.
Regards
Nexx
PS There's plenty more to choose, just some that I could think of at this time.
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Im with you Aztec (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
More planes to round out early to midwar planeset so we could get some more historical missions!
-Ding
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Yep, more early-mid war planes please. The Finnish Air Force has been blatantly ignored, compared to other countries in AH. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Camo
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Brewster into AH!
"The really good pilots use their superior judgement to keep them out of situations
where they might be required to demonstrate their superior skill."
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ahhhhh Camo lobbying again for his GLADIATOR
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Based on what could be gleaned from when HT came into the arena, the ONE we can be sure of for 1.07 is the LVT, apparently.
Other than that, we learned that 1.07 is mostly new planes, rather than major code changes.
And I think it's safe to say 1.07 is heavily Japanese-oriented.
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In the current arena any new early war planes would be a wasted effort.
lazs
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Top of the list,
P-40!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After that, Stuka, Hurricane, and some Japanese army planes. Val and Kate would be nice, too.
As for variants to existing planes, I'd like to see a Spit I and 109E.
anRky
<stuck in '41-'42>
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For the Japanese: Ki-43 (though bad armament)
Ki-61 and bomber (Betty, Peggy or Emily)
And maybe a Raiden.
Il-2 and bomber for VVS.
LVT for all (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
And the most important 1.07 addition of all, for VVS, RAF, RCAF, Belgians, Yugoslavs and Finns:
(http://myweb.worldnet.net/~emmpetit/hurrican.jpg)
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Thud1/Bies
Bring the Hurricane (MKIIC) to AH! (together with the Invader!)
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lazs:
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In the current arena any new early war planes would be a wasted effort.
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Not completely wasted. *I'd* fly 'em.
anRky
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WHat I find funny is if you troll thru peoples stats especially the top 100, it is amazing at how few aircraft they do fly. For me my goal was to get a kill in each one "almost there", and if possible at least 5 in each one. I find it more fun shooting down a fighter in a early model plane then flying a HP AC. And if I am flying one of those beasts, you bet I am using AA. I have shelved the D-9 just doesn't work for me, get frustrated at the 51 hits to light, george wont pull out of a 600mph dive (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) and the LA-7 doesn't carry enough ammo for me to loiter with. The A-5 seems to be working as of late, I would like to see more twin engine planes myself. Early war late war doesn't matter more twin engine planes.
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
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Again, I would like to see them implement (for Main Arena gameplay) a single field next to HQ where the ME163 could be manned, and only manned at this field for HQ defense considering how easy it is for 1 Lanc to take out most of the radar. HT, given this any more thought since the Con? Here's to hoping!
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The LVT4 would be nice. It has a gun terret on the top and can hold up to 25 grunts (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I've said it before.. I'll say it again. If HTC were to model a P-40, I'd fly it exclusively.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Again, I would like to see them implement (for Main Arena gameplay) a single field next to HQ where the ME163 could be manned, and only manned at this field for HQ defense
That would simply rock ! Last time I flew a Me163 Komet was back in Secret Weapons Of The Luftwaffe ...
For the youngest here SWOTL was a great sim back in the days of the 486/33mhz (last century (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif) !!!)
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"Ten Feet Tall and Bulletproof"
(I am overmodelled ! )
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Spooky, in my opinion, nothing on the market in terms of A/C and gameplay has beat SWOTL.
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Rip, I agree with you in regards to WW2 stuff and aircraft selection.
BUT... Falcon 3.0 is still the standard I use to rate all sims... period.
Its amazing that companies can be so close to capturing everything you ever wanted in a flight sim, only to forget what it was that the customer actually wanted.
AKDejaVu
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Don't ask. I won't tell
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-- Agent 007
[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 03-27-2001).]
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I really like the way AH has modelled a/c flown by nations other than the big 5. The Italian planes, the Finnish 109, and the Brazilian P-47 come to mind.
It'd be nice to see this continue, with perhaps a Free French P-63C KingCobra, or a RAAF or RNZAF Spit MkVIII or Bristol Beaufighter or Mossie.
And I believe the SAAF operated P-40s? A nice late model P-40 in SAAF desert livery would really be nice for the North Africa scenarios.
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Here is my list:
*Ju87 37mm version
*Ju52
*ME 163 Komet (see ripsnorts post)
*Hurricane
*Beaufighter
*P61 (needed for night operations)
*P40
*P39-D (shared with VVS on lend lease. Could even have VVS markings).
*Kate and Val (for Pearl Harbor snapshot)
*KI-61
*Betty
*B25-H (anti shipping/low level attack, skip/para bombs, 75mm and 8 .50's in the nose) would rock against ground vehicles
*Sherman tank
*LST/LVT4 (with both troop and vehicle capacity)
Jayhawk
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"Little boy blue....cause he needed the money".....owwwww
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Just keep in mind that some of the planes that will appear in the future are not necessarily geared toward play in the MA.
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Heya Ripsnort
Yeah, I've been giving your idea some more thought recently. Would be great to have it as a HQ defensive weapon - how many perk points do you think it would be worth?
(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/163.jpg)
Regards
Nexx
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In no particular order:
A7M2 "Sam" Reppu
P-47M
Ki67
Ki61 IIb "Tony" Hien
Spitfire F.Mk.21
H8K2 "Emily"
Mosquito FB.MkVI
Il2-M3 Sturmovik
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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!
Sisu
-Karnak
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NEXX, I would say 0 perks...since it could be programmed to have ONLY a combat range of, say, 25 miles (5 min of fuel?). Think of it as a last desparate defensive weapon to prevent bombers from destroying your HQ.
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I still have the disks for SWOTL and the manual, did you ever download the add on planes? My favorite was replacing the 109 with the HE-219 woohoo. That game was a blast and the flight model was pretty damn good as well. What was awesome was you flew plus you controlled the countries resources, production, logistics. Nothing has even come close to beating SWOTL and I doubt anything ever will "stupid quakers".
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
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Tornado from DiD was great too. Looked as accurate as they could model it at the time. You could plan missions of tornados to attack/cover assets versus inbound flights.
My best all time. F4 allows you the strategic targetting too.
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First choice: Spitfire XIV
Second choice: Spitfire XIV
Third choice: Spitfire XIV
However, if these are not available, I'd settle for the Spirfire XIV (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Zippatuh
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Frenchy - is that Tornado as in the Panavia Tornado?
I remember it - I found it very hard, but I remember using the autopilot-terrain radar thing - great fun. The tracer looked great too.
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I say chaps, what we really need is more Bwitish planes,eh, what. Beaufighter for torpedo attacks and Mosquito fighter/bomber for dealing with those beastly ack thingies.
Must rush. Toodle pip. Chin up.
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Me262
Me410
A5M
P-26
Swordfish
I-15
There ya go...something for everyone.
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Originally posted by Raubvogel:
Me262
Me410
A5M
P-26
Swordfish
I-15
There ya go...something for everyone.
LOL (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by lazs:
In the current arena any new early war planes would be a wasted effort.
lazs
....that might be true, but it might also be possible that with a wider plane set people would choose a wider variety of planes and it would be mixed up more.
the goal is just to have pretty much all of em isn't it? terrain plays a big role too - i will fly an earlier plane when the terrain lends itself to one on one's. the late war planes are really best in the furballs but you can get kills in an oldie 1-1.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
NEXX, I would say 0 perks...since it could be programmed to have ONLY a combat range of, say, 25 miles (5 min of fuel?). Think of it as a last desparate defensive weapon to prevent bombers from destroying your HQ.
I would prefer it being a perk with a very small cost, such as 5-10 perk points but agree that it could only be launched in the vicinity of the HQ. The only problem I could see is imagining 10-20 Me163s upping to down a couple of buffs! Be quite a sight but it can already prove pretty difficult to hit the HQ unless your fields are close by. One way around having the Me163 as a no-perk plane is limit the plane to say a set number allowed to launch per hour (between 5 & 25??). The reason I say that is that the defending pilots would purely be aiming for the bombers and not endlessly relaunching to hit all the buff escorts as well. Think that would be overkill.
Anyway, I'd vote for it Ripsnort, in any way possible! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Regards
Nexx
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P-47M
P-47N
P-47D-15 Razorback
P-47C
And uh.. whatever other weeny planes you guys want. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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My plane ideas:
Ju-52
Me-410
A7M2
Bristol Beaufighter
Mosquito (any version)
P-39D
P-40
Ki-61
Sherman
Sdkfz 7
Pe-2
Pe-8
Tu-2
IL-2
E-boat
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ObstLt. Reschke
2/LJK Staffelkapitan
Kommandeur Jagdbomber
LuftJagerKorps (http://www.luftjagerkorps.com)
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My plane list:
Fighter versions of the AR 234
Mosquito - assorted versions
Spitfire XIV
Gigant
ME-262
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qts
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Originally posted by qts:
My plane list:
Fighter versions of the AR 234
Unfortunately (Or fortunately :-) there's no such thing as a fighter version of the Ar 234.
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Did the Arado not ever get A-A rockets? If not, wish it had!
If, HTC puts the Me-262 into the game, I have a TON of friends ready to move over here. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Voss
13th TAS
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Bf 109E
Bf 109K
Bf 110
Me 410
Ju 87
He 111
Ju 52
Me 262
Me 163
P 40
Hurricane I and II
all kinda jap planes with no armore like they were (damn N1K is bulletproof)
B 29
Il-2
I-16
Brewster Buffalo
Panzer V panther
T-34
Sherman
Panzer VI Tiger
P-39
Me 321 Gigant to bring vehicles colse to a field
geez,I could just go on and on...
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Originally posted by Voss:
Did the Arado not ever get A-A rockets? If not, wish it had!
If, HTC puts the Me-262 into the game, I have a TON of friends ready to move over here. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
I don't believe the Ar-234 ever used rockets as weapons. Well unless they did not use the RATO packs on take off then dropped them on the bomb run...:0
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ObstLt. Reschke
2/LJK Staffelkapitan
Kommandeur Jagdbomber
LuftJagerKorps (http://www.luftjagerkorps.com)
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Caligula the one and only,
Only early Japanese aircraft lacked armor. Both of the Japanese aircraft we have here had some armor, in the case of the N1K2 about as much as you'd get on a British, American, German or Russian fighter.
Hellcat pilots would describe fights in which the Zero they'd been engaging just would not catch fire. The reason was that they were fighting N1Ks, J2Ms and various Ki fighters that had armor, not Zeros.
The stereotype of all Japanese aircraft lacking armor is a myth.
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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!
Sisu
-Karnak
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get frustrated at the 51 hits to light
Lol then you haven't seen the guys on the receiving end of my 51 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Bane
13th TAS
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Belgium had PLANES during WWII ??? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/confused.gif) oh well, I see , anything can happen (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
V1!!!!
Saw
[Mass]
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Originally posted by Lephturn:
P-47M
P-47N
P-47D-15 Razorback
P-47C
And uh.. whatever other weeny planes you guys want. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Agree completely, except you forgot one important one..the P-47D-23, this one was a Air to Air hotrod.
what do they say about Great minds Leph... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
(http://home.nc.rr.com/ammo/public.html/unw_sig.jpg) (http://www.jump.net/~cs3)
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Heya saw (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Would be perty wouldn't it flying in a hurri or spit with Belgian markings.
If I remember correctly there were a couple of Belgian flyers flying for the RAF. At the end even a Belgian squadron!?
Ok my list
I-15 (wasn't it called the ratta?)
Hurricane II A or B ?(the version with the hispanos)
P-40
Ki-84
P47M
IL2... I'm not realy a groundpounder but hell it's a tank of a plane (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
spit XIV
just a couple I would like to see... but I'd love anything (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
SWOTL... wow that takes me back... remember doing alot of tours of duty in the pony starting all over again when my radiator got hit and I had to ditch the bird (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (hehehe the way your gunsight would totaly turn black) or flying that famous experimental one the Go 229?
Bee out
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AKDejaVu:
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I've said it before.. I'll say it again. If HTC were to model a P-40, I'd fly it exclusively.
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Wow! DejaVu and I want the same thing!
anRky
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i'd like to see more british planes (as well as different markings for the european allies) i dunno, i just find then easier to fly (though they have that heavy stick felling) and they look hella cool.
i also wouldnt mind seeing more early war planes. even though they would usually get trounced my the late-wars, i think that the dedicated early war plane flyers could hit back, in say, an early spit or a hurricane.
and gimmy some early was bombers too. dammit my gran'pappy (lol) busted docks in north africa in a wellington (torps) and i wanna do it too.
dang, looks like i threw away my credibility by whining again......
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Mossie FB
Beaufighter Mk21
P-39/63 (Soviet marked)
P-40E (RNZAF)
LVT
T-34
Il-2
Peggy/Frances
Spit XIV
IMHO the Ju87G would be interesting, but unless a dramatic improvement in GV takes place..lone Ju's would be easy meat in the current MA
Tronsky
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Originally posted by JENG:
If I remember correctly there were a couple of Belgian flyers flying for the RAF. At the end even a Belgian squadron!?
Bee out
Yep, numbers 349 & 350 RAF squadrons were Belgian. Aircraft used include Tomahawk I (349 only); Spitfire's VA, LF VB, VC, LF IXE, IXB, XIV, LF XVIE and Tempest V (349 only).
Regards
Nexx
PS Tronsky, cool sig!
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Hurricane later model.
Bristol Beaufighter.
Mosquito
I also want to join Nexx and Ripsnort in the crusade for the little German Jet Glider for the HQ (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Frenchy... Tornado is my all time favourite Jet Sim, the first one 'I' ever got to lase from 20k and loved EVERY second of every part of that game... and trying to shake F14 and Mig off your bellybutton was hair raising. Coming in for low level bombing with squadies rushing in at 800mph from every direction without using auto pilot at all in the mission and having it work.... bliss (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Pop-up bombing was a treat too (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
To complete my life... is there a really decent Harrier sim ? closest i got was Birds of Prey on the Amiga.
Hmmm... as usual wandering off topic... apologies all.
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CAC Boomerang, Spit VIII, Beaufighter, B24 Liberator and a Mossie....all in Aussie roundels please (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
<S> Blue
Kampfgeschwader 200
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Could be wrong but I dont think the p-51h saw duty during WWII
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How about the Westland Whirlwind powered by 2 885hp Rolls-Royce Eng's and 4 nose mounted 20mm cannon this would be a nice fighter/bomber addition and something not seen in to many sims.
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The Arado didnt have a fighter config but there was a "nachtjager" version with cannons carried in a ventral tray.
As for Belgian planes, I'd fly a belgian Hurri, since their version replaced the .303's with 50 cals (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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pzvg- "5 years and I still can't shoot"
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"the goal is just to have pretty much all of em isn't it? terrain plays a big role too - i will
fly an earlier plane when the terrain lends itself to one on one's. the late war planes
are really best in the furballs but you can get kills in an oldie 1-1."
mrfish you sound like a candidate for my "area" arena. Terrain would help early war planes. If they had their own area in say the canyon part of the map they would do well. Otherwise... not. The guns like the FF cannon and .30's were just not very good and the later faster planes would be out of range constantly.
anarky... in the current arena a p40 with 4 .30's and 2 .50's would basicaly be unarmed and slow. You could get kills in it but it would be VERY frustrating for 99% of the players. If you got caught alone you would be meat.
lazs
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anarky... in the current arena a p40 with 4 .30's and 2 .50's would basicaly be unarmed and slow. You could get kills in it but it would be VERY frustrating for 99% of the players. If you got caught alone you would be meat.
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How would that be much different from flying, say, the 202, which is still one of my favorite planes in the MA?
Although I wouldn't mind having a B or an E, my preferred model would be an N. And since HTC doesn't seem too interested in providing the earlier models, I'd bet an N would be close to the model we'd get.
anRky
-I(still)h8ubb
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Some new planes I personally would like to see:
Me 410- just a cool plane with some interesting features.
Me 163- lotta fun and a pretty good challenge.
Fi 156- I think it'd be a lot of fun to fly with such a radically different flight envelope. It could be useful for artillery spotting when working out of a vehicle base.
H8K- The ultimate flying boat and nice looking to boot.
Ki-44- Gotta have it with an option for the 40mm cannons. Firing 40mm cannons at pellet gun velocities would be interesting.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
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H8K- The ultimate flying boat and nice looking to boot.
Don't tease me like that Pyro! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
<Clicks heels together three times>
"There's no place like Emily, there's no place like Emily"
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Love the plane lists!
-Westy
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Originally posted by Pyro:
H8K- The ultimate flying boat and nice looking to boot.
YESYESYESYESYES!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Somebody at HTC likes the H8K and has the same opinion of it that I do.
Please, please let it be in 1.07!!!!!
EDIT:
Oh, yeah, one more thing. The "Emily" would probably replace the Lancaster as the toughest aircraft in AH.
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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!
Sisu
-Karnak
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I-15? That was a bi-plane, and the I-153 was the updated version. If they do that we need it in Spanish Republican Markings, and put the 109B in Spanish Fascist Markings (Perhaps Werner Molders B.)
The I-16 Type 24 with 4 X 20MM cannon, even the Japanese had trouble turn fighting it.
(http://www.tir.com/~lkbrown1/i16.jpg)
All engine, all torque, manually retractable landing gear (read that as Hand Crank.)
I guess the Russians used to ram them into German Bombers, supposedly a tough little plane, just low altitude and slow.
Personally I will let my sig speak for itself.
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"Looks Mean as Hell! Clare Lee Chenault.
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When?
"Downtown" Lincoln Brown.
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Would like to see:
p-40 tomahawk
p4u-5n
huricane
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Looks to me like some of you guys have death wishes! The Brewster Buffalo for cryin' out loud?!! What kind of masochistic freaks are you anyway? You'd be toast before you even started the engine. And some of those early Russian planes fall into that same category.
Face it, until we get either a rolling plane set like in WB's or there's a dedicated historical scenario where it makes sense, very few people will fly those early obsolete airplanes. Just look at what most people are flying now. The faster airplanes with the most firepower. Personally, I liked the rolling plane set because it made you learn to fly the other airplanes you wouldn't normally and you could appreciate how the air war was fought early.
I admit the Me163 would be a kick. It's such a unique airplane unto it's own. I like the idea of specified operational bases, especially near the HQ where you could launch and be at 30k in about 2 minutes.
Frankly, I personally don't think we need MORE variants of some of these airplanes (the P47 and ME109 and FW190 just to name a few). Let's get more variety instead and add some different airplanes that might have a unique advantage under certain missions.
Looking at some of the other threads I'm gonna add the Ki-84. That was a kick bellybutton airplane in WBs. Fast and maneuverable with some punch.
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If we get the me-163 and the UT variant of the Yak9, I will be set for life.
As for the early war planes, I'd like to see more of them. Sure, they wouldn't be common rides, but they'd be a fun challenge in the MA, and (more importantly) they could be used to great extent for historic scenarios.
I'd personally love to see the Hurricane MkIIB with the 12(!) .303s, the MkIIC with the 4 hispanos, and best of all, the MkIID with the 2 40mm Vickers cannons for tank-busting.
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Emily would be quite the interesting thing...was it amphibious?
still chanting, and using the crystals for:
Beaufighter Mk21 (RAAF)
P-40 (14 Sqd RNZAF)
Mossie FB VI (487 RNZAF,464 RAAF Sqds)
if we're going flying boats...
Short Sunderland
Tronsky
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Skyrats/files/Tron.jpg)
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Go ahead and model the Me163. 5 min max burn (no throttle), 11,000 ft/min climb rate, 600mph, try and hit anything with it at those speeds.
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Boomerang!!
had hispanos....
SKurj
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Taur I think that's a challenge mein Uber dweeb I'm up for it!
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Glasses---I may have 4 eyes ,but you only have one wing.
Besser tot als rot
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Well, its hardly a surprise that folks dont go and strap on a Seafire when the rest of the arena is up in P51Ds, F4U-1Cs and 190D-9s is it? No, nobody is goin to fly those in numbers without a rolling set, or in an event setting.
As for "obsolete" planes, well, what was top of the line in 1940 was obsolete in 1945, true. That doesnt mean the Battle of Britain would be a dull Scenario though? Far from it.
Lots of air combat took place before April 1945. My point, maybe focus on something other than jets?
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Me-163 HQ, city defense
SM-79
Il-2
P-40
and others late war monster for those that don't like early - mid AC.
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I didn't see it mentioned, so I'll toss this one out...
F4F Wildcat