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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: blitz on March 15, 2003, 06:50:20 PM
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...politically on long terms.
This war is very questionale on morality standarts.
US government throws international laws.
US government showed an ugly face to its longtime allies.
US government showed an ugly face to the world.
US government has manouvered itself without any need into a 1 way street.
US goverments copies Propaganga war of Islam fanatics :'The Evil' 'Crusade' ' God told me'
Bush even pissed off very conservative european people on this board :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain ridiculous
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I'll let my signature do the talking here.
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Originally posted by blitz
...politically on long terms.
This war is very questionale on morality standarts.
US government showed an ugly face to its longtime allies.
Us government showed an ugly face to the world.
US government has manouvered itself without any need into a 1 way street.
Us goverments copies Propaganga war of Islam fanatics :'The Evil' 'Crusade' ' God told me'
Bush even pissed off very conservative european people on this board :D
Regards Blitz
America is thretened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
Yeah right...
Let us ask the free Iraqi people after the war if they support your views Blitz.
The war is going to be a savior for the people of Iraq and possibly other countries in the area.
I will come back to this forum after the war and ask you to re-state your opinion.
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blitz - we will discuss the aftermath of the war April 10-13 at the con. Could be all done bar the shouting by then.
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Originally posted by blitz
...politically on long terms.
This war is very questionale on morality standarts.
US government showed an ugly face to its longtime allies.
Us government showed an ugly face to the world.
US government has manouvered itself without any need into a 1 way street.
Us goverments copies Propaganga war of Islam fanatics :'The Evil' 'Crusade' ' God told me'
Bush even pissed off very conservative european people on this board :D
Regards Blitz
America is thretened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
Don't confuse your nation's history with our nation's future.
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Blitz..ill be blunt..unlike i usally am..
U are an idiot
diddly you germany--diddly You France...
You guys are interested in money......oyaa and you want the US not to be where we are today..(jealous) Especially the French..they are what we call"Player Haters" The US will ALWAYS BE Attaked Politcially..Thats what Happens when you are Number 1. KOTH
Hey you ever played KOTH?? You ever won 2 rounds..Well the US is the Guy who has won 2 rounds....everyone wants a piece now..
What I like about you and the 3rd world countries..Is the US atracts the worlds smartest people. They come to the US...become productive and Help our counrty even more...We are the Hybrid of this world..Plain and simple. We have done and created/dicovered/invented more useful things in this world then any other nation...and then we share it..and also sell it all over the world
We showed an ugly face??? What is that.."if the world will not agree..then we will defend ourselves -We do not need to ask for anyones permission to defend ourselves-our friends.
Funny How UNations ALL SIGNED RES 1441,,,,Now when its tiem to honor...Your" Axis of Weazels" are showing your true colors...
Name another country that has bleed for so many ohter countries for them to have all the BAsic Human rigths that we and you indiddlying grateful euro countries enjoy today.....
ooo i see this was about politics..not real life ..ok...
anyways...Salute our Soldiers..and I salute Our President Bush for having the courage to stay on the Path that is right...Not on the emotions that the frikn Liberal Euros "feel"..
Yes..I wish we could all"Just get along" too
Truth can be hard to take sometimes.eh?
And we will lose Politically? You must be smoking soem Compton Crack..When the wepons.opression comes to pictureson your TV..more then it is now..ya..we will show the French & Chinese Labels(Made in###)
And Funny how the Muslim Nations thing got denied going to Iraq.(they want saddam to leave)..They give a toejam about Saddam...they are worried about there own backyards..they been letting these fanatics run in there sandbox...Well its going to be tiem to scoop the toejam out of there...or we scoop it for them..Which we will use a bigger shovel..
and diddly spelling
Love
BiGB
xoxo
P.S. Yes..United Sates of America Defends Freedom acroos the World...its not perfect..but who is bettr?
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Right on bgbmaw
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Umm.. whats the hype about?
Since when did germany or france have any importance in anything?
They did their jig 50 years ago.
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Why US will loose Iraq war
...politically on long terms.
This war is very questionale on morality standarts.
US government showed an ugly face to its longtime allies.
Us government showed an ugly face to the world.
US government has manouvered itself without any need into a 1 way street.
Us goverments copies Propaganga war of Islam fanatics :'The Evil' 'Crusade' ' God told me'
Bush even pissed off very conservative european people on this board - Blitz
Blitz, your problem is that you don't understand this war.
You and others who share your opinion are either plain ignorant of the magnitude of the shift that has occurred in world, or you just want to keep your head in the sand.
But you will come to understand in your lifetime, thats for sure.
Every country in the world today will either support terrorism, or war against it. They won't be able to aviod making the decision.
My .02
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I have a very simple solution to all this backstabbing by certain countries on the UN security council. We, the USA, will back down from our stance that Saddam must be removed from power and then aim some of our nuke missiles at certain European cities so that if there ever is an attack on the USA involving a weapon of mass destruction by arab factions then Europe will suffer a similar fate. Europe is very brave seeing as how the WMD "gun" is not pointed square at their heads. I'm sure if the arabs were going after France or Germany then they would be prostrating themselves on the floor of the UN in sackcloth and ashes begging for the USA to come, AS ALWAYS, and ensure their safety.
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Been smokin' that camelshit again, Blitz??
Cabby
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when? (http://webserver.dcci.com/SA-Texan/Flash/Saddam.swf)
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...politically on long terms.
If America wins the war relatively quickly and cleanly, it will win politically. If the war is long and messy, then the axis of weasels will win politically.
ra
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The U.S. will win the war against Iraq. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. For a number of reasons.
1. There is opposition to his Saddam's rule within Iraq itself.
2. No Muslim nation is going to come to his aid.
3. Most of the battleground is as flat as a billiard table. The U.S. will seize and maintain air superiority, which will ensure our dominance on the ground.
4. Reason number one may make a house to house battle in Baghdad unnecessary.
Can you spell "blitzkrieg?"
Regards, Shuckins
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Blitz is just from a broken down country, with no real power in the world anymore. Economically, militarily, or politically. These small, powerless nations see an opportunity to join together to beat the U.S. at SOMETHING.
Power of veto was given to world superpowers as incentive to join the UN. France is not in that category.
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I Luv BGBMAW.;)
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Gosh Germany says were gonna lose ANOTHER war!
They were right last time weren't they?:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Hangtime
when? (http://webserver.dcci.com/SA-Texan/Flash/Saddam.swf)
Just about that time.
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Not to worry Blitz, your ugly little secret is safe with me :D
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@Blitz:
Sach ma Blitz - mußt Du ständig die Freedom-Fries-Fresser hier verarschen? Ist doch klar, daß die Anhänger des DüFaZ losheulen, sobald Du sie anpiekst. Piep Piep Piep - keiner hat sie mehr lieb... ;)
Gönne ihnen etwas Pause. Die fallen doch wie programmiert auf jede Deiner Mails rein.
:D :D
@ rest:
This forum is getting more and more funny.
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Originally posted by Shuckins
The U.S. will win the war against Iraq. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. For a number of reasons.
1. There is opposition to his Saddam's rule within Iraq itself.
2. No Muslim nation is going to come to his aid.
3. Most of the battleground is as flat as a billiard table. The U.S. will seize and maintain air superiority, which will ensure our dominance on the ground.
4. Reason number one may make a house to house battle in Baghdad unnecessary.
Can you spell "blitzkrieg?"
Regards, Shuckins
There is no doubt that this will an easy vitory for the US-hightech army. Its like in "wars" against such superpowers like Grenada, Panama, Somalia or Afghanistan.
So it will be a very fast victory - maybe a week or so.
Saddam will be removed - and then the real problem comes:
Every neighbor of Iraq is ready to intervene with their iraqui puppets.
The turks will use the turkish minorities in North Iraq to get a reason for "police operations" against the iraqui kurds.
The Iranians will use their iraqui shiite puppets to get their part in the civil war, which comes after the "victory".
The arabs will use their iraquis to ensure that the sunnite minority will remain in power in Iraq.
Syria will play its own game in order to get control of their specific politic goals in Iraq.
And the iraqui opposition will also fight against each other. Even the kurds are devided in many splinter groups - very much like the clans in Afghanistan.
And in the middle this chaos you really want to see US or other foreign occupation forces ?
Have a look at Afghanistan. After the great victory against the superpower Taliban the country is in full chaos.
It is totally devided between the warlords.
In the northeast the "General" Dostum, a war-criminal like Saddam or Bin Laden is supported by the CIA (like Saddam and Bin Laden decades ago).
Dostum was responsible for assassinations against the government of the puppet-primeminister Karsai.
Until today 4 ministers have been killed.
In the west of Afghanistan the province of Herat is under total control of iranian controlled afghan puppets.
In the Southeast the Taliban rules with the help of Pakistan. They dont call themself Taliban any longer but they are the same clans which have been part of the Taliban before and they have the same fundamentalistic Taiban rules.
Even in the few cities controlled by foreign troops like Kabul the women still have to wear the Burka and have not any rights.
That victory in Afghanistan was really a great for the democracy in Afghanistan and the people must be really happy today.
Like the people in Iraq when they are "liberated" by the hightech-bombs which are only used to free them.
But we will forget Iraq and their coming civil war like we ignore the events in Afghanistan today.
What remains is another great victory in the name of demcracy.
WTG !
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
Blitz..ill be blunt..unlike i usally am..
U are an idiot
diddly you germany--diddly You France...
May be its time to set up Visa for americans a check if is there
any other coutnry interesting in our cooperations.
I know that stupidity is an international bussines, but what does americans showing here is a bit much.
May be we should add few more language options on our schools... for example chinese, persian etc...
anyway .... you had realy "coool" arguments
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Originally posted by babek-
Until today 4 ministers have been killed.
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just ask americans Babek, its not problem untill, they accept US money, because they will "owe" them and they can eat them later w/o problem
Why does americans care about goverment in Iraq after war ??
They will level Iraq, put there pro American goverment, they will put lot of money into Iraq (and they expect us to watch it and say AWwwwwwwwwww.. what a goodness) and then they will have profit from their investments.... ( and who cares about few dead muslims)
basicaly this idea isnt that bad, but whats bad is the fact, that they arent able to say it clearly
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The allies will move up to Baghdad from the south - Basra. Many/most of the Iraqi servicemen they find there will be ready and waiting to surrender. Only as the allies approach Baghdad will stronger resistance be met, from Republican Guard and Saddam's special forces. At this point, with the game clearly up, the allies might simply wait for the regime to collapse. With much of the country liberated, I can only begin to imagine the happy smiling faces of the ordinary Iraqi people.
The allies are not going to bomb and blast their way to Baghdad. They don't want to create a legacy of ill will or problems which they themselves will have to sort out later. With TV footage of liberated Iraq appearing on TV screens in Baghdad, it is my belief that it won't be long before Saddam's regime folds like an empty Corn Flakes packet.
The keys will be stealth, tactfulness and use of intelligence gathered by SAS and American Special Forces, and electronic intelligence gathered by the CIA.
After it's over, how will Iraq look in a year's time? It's easy to imagine Iraq being split into three separate states - the Kurds in the north, the shiites in the south, and some sort of allied controlled buffer state in the middle.
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Originally posted by babek-
@Blitz:
Sach ma Blitz - mußt Du ständig die Freedom-Fries-Fresser hier verarschen? Ist doch klar, daß die Anhänger des DüFaZ losheulen, sobald Du sie anpiekst. Piep Piep Piep - keiner hat sie mehr lieb... ;)
Gönne ihnen etwas Pause. Die fallen doch wie programmiert auf jede Deiner Mails rein.
:D :D
Freakin weak!, but you are German, I understand you can't help it.
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Originally posted by Martlet
Don't confuse your nation's history with our nation's future.
If this is your nations future i feel sorry for ya, doubt it tho...
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Originally posted by Turdboy
Gosh Germany says were gonna lose ANOTHER war!
They were right last time weren't they?:rolleyes:
You talkin of Vietnam war? Can't remember we supposed our Big friend to loose against a little thirth world country.
Despite this, sure you will win your 'Blitzkrieg' on military terms, no doubt about it but i talked about loosin morality and politics ground.
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Originally posted by Yeager
Not to worry Blitz, your ugly little secret is safe with me :D
Adolf is your ideal, Yeager? :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Originally posted by babek-
@Blitz:
DüFaZ losheulen, sobald Du sie anpiekst. Piep Piep Piep - keiner hat sie mehr lieb... ;)
Jo, jo, da könnte man auch glatt in den Tigerkäfig steigen und 'Eßt mehr Gemüse' predigen.
DüFaZ is klasse :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Originally posted by beet1e
After it's over, how will Iraq look in a year's time? It's easy to imagine Iraq being split into three separate states - the Kurds in the north, the shiites in the south, and some sort of allied controlled buffer state in the middle.
Thats an easy solution:
An independent Kurdistan in the north, an independend shiite state in the south and the rest in the middle.
But:
1. The kurd nation will not be allowed because of the catastrophical consequences for the NATO-partner Turkey which has a large kurdish minority.
Also many iraqui kurdish groups are remote controlled by Turkey, Iran and Syria - so they will not work together.
2. The shiite nation will not be allowed because they would follow orders from the iraqui shiite government in exile in Teheran. Also most of the oil recources of Iraq are on shiite territory.
3. And there is then the great danger that the shiite part wants to join Iran because it was once iranian territory.
No - Iraq will get some military governeurs, some puppets like this idiot in Kabul without power but nice representative jobs in our TV while their nation destroys itself more day by day.
Meanwhile the free people will continue to die and dont have any democracy or whatever propaganda has promised to give them.
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france, germany, russia realizes that only by the demise and destruction of the US can they possibly become the world power the US is today...
what is their motivation to prevent another 9/11 here? another 20 9/11's????
I don't see it .................
there is a new world order in the works here, if you think this is just about Iraq you are kidding yourself
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Originally posted by Eagler
france, germany, russia realizes that only by the demise and destruction of the US can they possibly become the world power the US is today...
what is their motivation to prevent another 9/11 here? another 20 9/11's????
I don't see it .................
there is a new world order in the works here, if you think this is just about Iraq you are kidding yourself
Right.
I also don't understand what Blitz, babek, Strafo and others like them are oppossed to in regards to the war against Saddam.
Is it that they are against war in general? Are they concerned for the Iraqi people?
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You talkin of Vietnam war? Can't remember we supposed our Big friend to loose against a little thirth world country.
Some more of your blind propoganda. The truth is out there, if you open your eyes to it, but I have noticed you are more comfortable knowing what you want to know. To be technical about the Vietnam War, the USA didn't lose the war...nor did North Vietnam or South Vietnam. In January 1973 the "Agreement on Ending the War and Restoring Peace in Vietnam" was signed in Paris by both North Vietnam and the USA. Vietnam SIGNED this agreement for peace! There was no victory so where is a losing war here? (Had the USA ever once invaded North Vietnam, the war would've probably been over because all their troops were in the South!) What happened is that 2-years after the signing of the peace agreement, North Vietnam broke the agreement and invaded southwards. Do you understand that due to this peace agreement most of the USA's military was gone from the region? Did you even have a clue this was how that war ended, that North Vietnam signed a peace accord? I guess the UN keeps losing the war with Iraq because they keep signing all these "peace accords" with Saddam.
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To be technical about it... it wasn't a war at all. :)
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Originally posted by Puke
Some more of your blind propoganda. The truth is out there, if you open your eyes to it, but I have noticed you are more comfortable knowing what you want to know. To be technical about the Vietnam War, the USA didn't lose the war...nor did North Vietnam or South Vietnam. In January 1973 the "Agreement on Ending the War and Restoring Peace in Vietnam" was signed in Paris by both North Vietnam and the USA. Vietnam SIGNED this agreement for peace! There was no victory so where is a losing war here? (Had the USA ever once invaded North Vietnam, the war would've probably been over because all their troops were in the South!) What happened is that 2-years after the signing of the peace agreement, North Vietnam broke the agreement and invaded southwards. Do you understand that due to this peace agreement most of the USA's military was gone from the region? Did you even have a clue this was how that war ended, that North Vietnam signed a peace accord? I guess the UN keeps losing the war with Iraq because they keep signing all these "peace accords" with Saddam.
Aye, Aye, my general.
Remind me, Großdeutschland won WW2, right? :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Originally posted by Eagler
france, germany, russia realizes that only by the demise and destruction of the US can they possibly become the world power the US is today...
what is their motivation to prevent another 9/11 here? another 20 9/11's????
I don't see it .................
there is a new world order in the works here, if you think this is just about Iraq you are kidding yourself
You got it in your last sentence Eagler, Bush and his warmongers try hard to get what they want. Iraq is just the start, 59 countries to go then. Halleluja. :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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yup.
yer time will come also, blitz.
i relish the thought.
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Originally posted by blitz
...politically on long terms.
This war is very questionale on morality standarts.
Us government throws international laws.
US government showed an ugly face to its longtime allies.
Us government showed an ugly face to the world.
US government has manouvered itself without any need into a 1 way street.
Us goverments copies Propaganga war of Islam fanatics :'The Evil' 'Crusade' ' God told me'
Bush even pissed off very conservative european people on this board :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
I think you live on another planet there, Blitz! I don't see any of what you posted to be any where near the truth! I give you a 10 for the most B. S. ever posted, congrats!!
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Originally posted by OZkansas
I think you live on another planet there, Blitz! I don't see any of what you posted to be any where near the truth! I give you a 10 for the most B. S. ever posted, congrats!!
We just differ on political views, no biggy :)
Regards Blitz
10 is fine by me, at least I'm with the pope
http://www.n-tv.de/3146645.html
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Hey blitz do you know in america the word blitz is just another word for FART
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Originally posted by Hangtime
yup.
yer time will come also, blitz.
i relish the thought.
Ya threaten me?
Not nessasary, get the next flight to Germany on friday and we will have some beer together. I'm not that bad :)
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Originally posted by OZkansas
I think
lol better dont think, coz you sux at it
and bring some arguments agains Blitz post
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Ya threaten me?
nope.
no threat.
just a prediction.
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Nah blitz, no love of your hitler here. Just trying to convey to you a certain sentiment that when your country and mine disagree, you have the disadvantage of starting two world wars, both lost at horrific price in human loss and suffering. It makes your position very difficult to accept when at odds with mine.
That is all.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
nope.
no threat.
just a prediction.
Alright, i'm 45 now, i hope i get at least 20 years more and you 2, Hang :)
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Originally posted by blitz
You got it in your last sentence Eagler, Bush and his warmongers try hard to get what they want. Iraq is just the start, 59 countries to go then. Halleluja. :D
Do you know whats most beatiful about this Blitz ?
Those Americanos guys responding uppon your post have no clue what you did mean by those 59 countries ROFL :D :D :D
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Originally posted by Yeager
Nah blitz, no love of your hitler here. Just trying to convey to you a certain sentiment that when your country and mine disagree, you have the disadvantage of starting two world wars, both lost at horrific price in human loss and suffering. It makes your position very difficult to accept when at odds with mine.
That is all.
Glad to hear that from you , Yeager, thought for a moment you fell in love with the 'Führer and his Propaganda Minister' :)
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Originally posted by Eaglecz
Do you know whats most beatiful about this Blitz ?
Those Americanos guys responding uppon your post have no clue what you did mean by those 59 countries ROFL :D :D :D
Hey, psssssssssssssssssssssst, it should be kept as a secret! :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
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Originally posted by blitz
Hey, psssssssssssssssssssssst, it should be kept as a secret! :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
sorry, hard to get excited about "countries" which are smaller than many of our states... :)
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Blitz- Stupidity is something that can be overcome through a conquest for knowledge. Ignorance, OTOH, is to the bone.
You are completely the latter.
-SW
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Blitz- Stupidity is something that can be overcome through a conquest for knowledge. Ignorance, OTOH, is to the bone.
You are completely the latter.
-SW
Ill try hard to get rid of US government propaganda lately, please tell me, does that help in any way, i'm so confused :D
Regards Blitz
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Ah yes, every American who agrees with our government for doing what is right against Saddam is propagandized.
It worked in your country 60 years ago, we saw how it happened but *WE* are paying attention. You all weren't.
-SW
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Originally posted by NUKE
Right.
I also don't understand what Blitz, babek, Strafo and others like them are oppossed to in regards to the war against Saddam.
Is it that they are against war in general? Are they concerned for the Iraqi people?
I love your second sentence, I was speaking and helping Iraqi refugees when the western country were sucking Saddam.
I don't thing any warmonger of this BBS can say the same.
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Straffo you bastard !!!!!!!!! Im askinf for some black eyed fairy all over the world and you... you are laughing all the time (keeping sending me just frogs ).....
why you never told me, where to find them .... aaahhhhh dammm you :D :D :D
ohhh man tell me more about this on our private BBS ;)
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To be technical about it... it wasn't a war at all.
It was enough of one to require an agreement to an end of hostilities. But what's your point? Had that agreement not been signed, the B-52s would've continued to rain down their bombs freely because the North had basically run out of SAMs and AAA.
You'll never see congress give wartime powers to the President unless it's something huge and similar to a world war. If you look into those powers, it's just too much to give to a president for regional conflicts. In fact (and correct me if I'm wrong here someone), during wartime the president can actually stop any elections for another term and remain in office without any vote.
I'm glad you were being technical about that...so can you enlighten me as to what you were even getting at or do you just like to argue?
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Originally posted by Puke
It was enough of one to require an agreement to an end of hostilities. But what's your point? Had that agreement not been signed, the B-52s would've continued to rain down their bombs freely because the North had basically run out of SAMs and AAA.
You'll never see congress give wartime powers to the President unless it's something huge and similar to a world war. If you look into those powers, it's just too much to give to a president for regional conflicts. In fact (and correct me if I'm wrong here someone), during wartime the president can actually stop any elections for another term and remain in office without any vote.
I'm glad you were being technical about that...so can you enlighten me as to what you were even getting at or do you just like to argue?
We know you doesn't lost it, we just makin fun of you, sorry, was greatest victory in american history,sorry, and greatest victory over torture,sorry, we all know about :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain ridiculous
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We know you doesn't lost it, we just makin fun of you, sorry, was greatest victory in american history,sorry, and greatest victory over torture,sorry, we all know about
That shows just how little you are open to learning. You can't make an accurate statement and thus you resort to making a facetious one. I provide you a valid argument in a previous post which you entirely ignore but now you jump in and this is the best you have? Show me that I'm wrong.
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Originally posted by Puke
In fact (and correct me if I'm wrong here someone), during wartime the president can actually stop any elections for another term and remain in office without any vote.
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Wrong. No president has ever used war as a pretext for stopping constitutionally-mandated elections. Not even Lincoln during the Civil War or Franklin Roosevelt during World War II avoided re-election.
Doing so most certainly would have led to their impeachment.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by blitz
Despite this, sure you will win your 'Blitzkrieg' on military terms, no doubt about it but i talked about loosin morality and politics ground.
In many people's minds Germany has not yet re-earned the right to chastise any nation about war and morality. Especially those nations upon whom your very existance depended on for nearly 50 years.
Very poor manners.
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lolol.. Blitz.... Like many people..You just need to let them talk..and they bury themselves...
Blitz..ill be blunt..unlike i usally am..
U are an idiot
diddly you germany--diddly You France...
(not all the people.but defntly there gov and some of the people..just like here in the GREATSEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD..USA USA...USA USA USA..!!..lolol
You guys are interested in money......oyaa and you want the US not to be where we are today..(jealous) Especially the French..they are what we call"Player Haters" The US will ALWAYS BE Attaked Politcially..Thats what Happens when you are Number 1. KOTH
Hey you ever played KOTH?? You ever won 2 rounds..Well the US is the Guy who has won 2 rounds....everyone wants a piece now..
What I like about you and the 3rd world countries..Is the US atracts the worlds smartest people. They come to the US...become productive and Help our counrty even more...We are the Hybrid of this world..Plain and simple. We have done and created/dicovered/invented more useful things in this world then any other nation...and then we share it..and also sell it all over the world
We showed an ugly face??? What is that.."if the world will not agree..then we will defend ourselves -We do not need to ask for anyones permission to defend ourselves-our friends.
Funny How UNations ALL SIGNED RES 1441,,,,Now when its tiem to honor...Your" Axis of Weazels" are showing your true colors...
Name another country that has bleed for so many ohter countries for them to have all the BAsic Human rigths that we and you indiddlying grateful euro countries enjoy today.....
ooo i see this was about politics..not real life ..ok...
anyways...Salute our Soldiers..and I salute Our President Bush for having the courage to stay on the Path that is right...Not on the emotions that the frikn Liberal Euros "feel"..
Yes..I wish we could all"Just get along" too
Truth can be hard to take sometimes.eh?
And we will lose Politically? You must be smoking soem Compton Crack..When the wepons.opression comes to pictureson your TV..more then it is now..ya..we will show the French & Chinese Labels(Made in###)
And Funny how the Muslim Nations thing got denied going to Iraq.(they want saddam to leave)..They give a toejam about Saddam...they are worried about there own backyards..they been letting these fanatics run in there sandbox...Well its going to be tiem to scoop the toejam out of there...or we scoop it for them..Which we will use a bigger shovel..
and diddly spelling
Love
BiGB
xoxo
P.S. Yes..United Sates of America Defends Freedom acroos the World...its not perfect..but who is bettr?
P.P.S We should of left the rest of germany to russia....then over half of you would be dead....Ya..not a nice thought huh? You are diddlying lucky you had someone with enuff sense like Carl Dornitz take over the last days of the 1000 year Reich... He probbaly single handedly saved millions of Germans...(Thank god cause i have relatives there)
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I would rather say to Germany and France, as an American: thanks to our many friends and supporters in both countries, and we look forward to the time when a government that reflects your views, and elected by the democratic rights of choice that Americans fought and died to help preserve, is back in power.
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Rasker.....exactly..here here...
SirLoin:)
Salute
BiGB
xoxo
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Golly, Bush pissed off conservative Euros on this BBS!
Guess it's a good thing he's not President of the EU, huh?
I guess we'll just have to base all of our foreign policy on whether
it gets a thumbs up from the european AH BBS.
Rino
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Why blitz is a pinhead?
Or maybe Why Blitz is now on my ignore list.
LOL.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Why blitz is a pinhead?
Or maybe Why Blitz is now on my ignore list.
LOL.
he is on your ignore list, because you dont know what you could say about his points, you have no arguments
small child turn away when fear
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lol...
or simply because we ignore the idots so so as not to waste so much time
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Originally posted by Widewing
In many people's minds Germany has not yet re-earned the right to chastise any nation about war and morality. Especially those nations upon whom your very existance depended on for nearly 50 years.
Very poor manners.
Playin always the
Nazi-
communist-
appeaser-
hippy-
peacelover-
looser-
froggy-
where is this little unimportant country on the map-?
name calling- card doesn't help you, my friends :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain ridiculous
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hmm, looking in the dictionary, "multilateral" is not defined as "meeting the approval of the current governments of France AND Germany AND Russia AND China. Should *any* of these governments disapprove, *see* unilateral." :)
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Originally posted by blitz
We just differ on political views, no biggy :)
Regards Blitz
10 is fine by me, at least I'm with the pope
http://www.n-tv.de/3146645.html
You are with the POPE? Hes just another cult leader with a book he uses to make people feel guilty.
:D
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LOL welcome to my ignore list, I will not waste my time on people like you and blitz, you're a waste of my time, and the air we all breathe.
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Originally posted by Silat
You are with the POPE? Hes just another cult leader with a book he uses to make people feel guilty.
:D
Damn you, Anti-Christ :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain ridiculous
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Originally posted by Rino
Golly, Bush pissed off conservative Euros on this BBS!
Guess it's a good thing he's not President of the EU, huh?
I guess we'll just have to base all of our foreign policy on whether
it gets a thumbs up from the european AH BBS.
Rino
Nah, only your Kyoto-, International Court DenHaag-, Landmine Protokoll-, 'We go to war with 60 countries'-, politics. :D
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain ridiculous
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Leviathan, I never said any president used that power. But I seem to recall something like this from some college courses many moons ago. I could be wrong, but I thought that this power is available to the president when granted wartime powers (and I think I could see maybe some problem with a leadership change during the course of war which could actually mean the survival of our country.) I know it involves being able to declare martial law, that's pretty powerful right there. Interesting that you bring up FDR and Lincoln, the two most powerful presidents we ever had and I remember their names being mentioned specifically when learning about the wartime powers. They also died before any re-election too. Anyway, I may be wrong about that power, though not sure why I have it in my head. Again though, I never said any president actually held off elections during wartime.
Anybody? Anybody know yes or no on this? Here's a link that goes a little into just how powerful the president can become, but it doesn't mention what I'm talking about. However, it does illustrate just how powerful he can be and I don't see that forestalling presidential elections until the war/crisis is over is out of bounds:
http://www.sumeria.net/politics/powers.html
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This war is very questionale on morality standarts. At the very least as questionable as no-war, in moral terms.
US government throws international laws. What laws? UN? UN is not a law body. Plus 1441 resolution does not entitle? why?
US government showed an ugly face to its longtime allies. What allies? You mean France and Germany? I thought it was just the opposite.
US government showed an ugly face to the world. What "world" are you relating to?
US government has manouvered itself without any need into a 1 way street.....with the unvaluable help of the "longtime allies". Without that "help" maybe we were talking a totally different language.
US goverments copies Propaganga war of Islam fanatics :'The Evil' 'Crusade' ' God told me' ...You are really blind. Either by ignorance or some more or less hidden agenda, but your blindness is blatant. Btw....Islam fanatics propaganda is far more coercitive.
Bush even pissed off very conservative european people on this board :D Not me :D
Regards,
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Originally posted by Puke
I know it involves being able to declare martial law, that's pretty powerful right there.
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Any kinds of war powers granted to the president must do so by statute, and laws cannot go against the constitution. That said, Lincoln did unconstitutionally suspend the writ of habeus corpus during the Civil War, but he never, ever called off elections.
Interesting that you bring up FDR and Lincoln, the two most powerful presidents we ever had and I remember their names being mentioned specifically when learning about the wartime powers.
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I mentioned them for that very reason. Even the two most powerful presidents during war time did not call off elections; nor could they have if they'd wanted.
They also died before any re-election too. Anyway, I may be wrong about that power, though not sure why I have it in my head.
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FDR and Lincoln died before re-election?
For the United States, World War II lasted from 1941 until 1945. Franklin Roosevelt ran for re-election in 1944 and won during wartime. The Civil War ran from 1861 to 1865, and Lincoln ran for re-election in 1864, beating George McClellan. So even the most powerful of presidents cannot shirk their constitutional responsibilities regardless of the historical context.
Realize also that the website you linked to isn't exactly neutral. And while presidential executive orders may ostensibly wield enormous power, Congress or the Supreme Court could at any time remove the power or impeach a president for its abuse. Any president passing an executive order calling for the suspension of presidential elections during crisis is going to face impeachment and/or Supreme Court rebuke. I can guarantee it.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
. Any president passing an executive order calling for the suspension of presidential elections during crisis is going to face impeachment and/or Supreme Court rebuke. I can guarantee it.
-- Todd/Leviathn
It's an interesting catch 22: The only way that president wouldn't be impeached would be that he was extrememly popular. If that were the case, he wouldn't need to suspend elections :)
-Sik
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Originally posted by blitz
You talkin of Vietnam war? Can't remember we supposed our Big friend to loose against a little thirth world country.
Despite this, sure you will win your 'Blitzkrieg' on military terms, no doubt about it but i talked about loosin morality and politics ground.
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous
Veitnam was a mess due to the result of certain colonial powers trying like hell to hang on to thier world influnce... aka FRANCE.
We steped in w/the idea of preventing communism from taking over.
The war was "misfought" for sure.... but we certainly didnt "lose". We simply left. There was no surrender... the American public simply saw it as a waste.
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Oh..and Bliz... why do you think France is so dead set against this war. Let me sum it up... money. Its been stated over and over yet some seem to simply ignore this.
Yes... the US will try to install a PRO-WESTERN gov. Yes... we will no doubt recieve favorable trade.... but hell we recieve favorable trade from most of the Middle Eastern Nations now.
You seem to be on some sort of hate trip against the US. I simply dont get it.
Here's something for you
"Franch and Germany are simply threatened in no way by the US"
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with us or against us
to be on the fence during a time of war is to be against us
seems pretty simple to me..........
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Originally posted by batdog
Oh..and Bliz... why do you think France is so dead set against this war. Let me sum it up... money. Its been stated over and over yet some seem to simply ignore this.
Yes... the US will try to install a PRO-WESTERN gov. Yes... we will no doubt recieve favorable trade.... but hell we recieve favorable trade from most of the Middle Eastern Nations now.
You seem to be on some sort of hate trip against the US. I simply dont get it.
Here's something for you
"Franch and Germany are simply threatened in no way by the US"
I just put a mirror infront of some pro-war guys here who confuse blindness with patriotism.
I hate noone, not even Hangtime but some guys ignorance need a responce.
America is goin the absolutely wrong way with this war at this time and i feel free to comment that.
Bush and his amateurish Falcons playin va banque here and i strongly dislike that.
Bush wasn't interested in anyones opinion right from the beginning, was it his allies, UN, Pope, his own church or whoever.
He wanted a regime change at all costs using every excuse he could even find.
He failed politically and now he does what he wanted .
So what? Being dry after several years of alcohol abuse is not enough to be a great politician.
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain ridiculous
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Eagler....
Please change your handle....I keep reading your posts and getting them confused with that EagleCZ Hippie.
It leads to numerous re-readings of your posts.
I read them and think, "wait, EaglCZ is making sense...WTF?" Then I go back and check the sig, and see it's Eagler's post.
Very confusing!:D
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Blitz, just looking back at your original post....
Since when has the winner of a war been decided by anyone's standards of morality? Its not like there is a UN panel of judges, giving "points" for playing nice.
*CNN Reporter, speaking from Baghdad*
Just up the street an American Heavy Armor column is progressing rapidly, and meeting light resistance.....
*Camera pans to the right to 7 "International Citizens"*
And the judges say ?!?!?!!
9.5.... 9.0 .... 9.5..... oooohhhhhh and the French judge gives the US a 3.5 !!!! It looks like Saddam is going to stay in Power !!
Ludicrous!
Sorry but its simply ludicrous.
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
Blitz..ill be blunt..unlike i usally am..
U are an idiot
diddly you germany--diddly You France...
You guys are interested in money......
now that is funny coming from an American.:D
your a frustrated lad BgB.....your agressive and presume too much.
ya got a chip on ye shoulder mate:eek:
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Originally posted by Vermillion
Blitz, just looking back at your original post....
Since when has the winner of a war been decided by anyone's standards of morality? Its not like there is a UN panel of judges, giving "points" for playing nice.
*CNN Reporter, speaking from Baghdad*
Just up the street an American Heavy Armor column is progressing rapidly, and meeting light resistance.....
*Camera pans to the right to 7 "International Citizens"*
And the judges say ?!?!?!!
9.5.... 9.0 .... 9.5..... oooohhhhhh and the French judge gives the US a 3.5 !!!! It looks like Saddam is going to stay in Power !!
Ludicrous!
Sorry but its simply ludicrous.
I said America will loose morality ground because Bush always hide behind morality phrases when indeed he is goin for very questionable political goals.
Regards Blitz
America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain ridiculous
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Originally posted by blitz
I hate noone, not even Hangtime but some guys ignorance need a responce.
He's no Boroda yet, but he's toiling mightily in the hot, dusty fields of comedy, doing the spadework that will one day lift him to true comic gold.
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It will be interesting to see how Germany and France will react when we remove our millitary presence from their bigtoeries...
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Originally posted by Pollock
It will be interesting to see how Germany and France will react when we remove our millitary presence from their bigtoeries...
Please get ya troops out of Germany soon.
Thank you for cover us from the Russians (tough you defend yourself too by this)
I know we will lose a lot of money your soldiers spent here but it's time to say goodby soner or later, anyways.
Every single american is highly welcome as a guest, though :)
Regards Blitz
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Originally posted by Pollock
It will be interesting to see how Germany and France will react when we remove our millitary presence from their bigtoeries...
i guess that germany will try to conquere france :D :D
but this time they gonna have trouble, coz there is no frontier anymore :D :D