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Title: Problem with the logs?
Post by: AKcurly on March 16, 2003, 03:17:06 AM

In perusing the logs, I noticed the following:

Shamus (flew with the AKs)

# 22:37:23 ------ Shot Down A P-51D Piloted By Pand.

and

# Pand  
22:12:15 ------ Departs From Field #63 in a P-51D
# 22:34:17 ------ Helps BLCKSHP Shoot Down AKwrong.
# 22:34:29 ------ Shot Down A Fw 190A-5 Piloted By AKMoe.
# 22:35:41 ------ Shot Down A Bf 109G-10 Piloted By AKPanthr.
# 22:37:44 ------ Captured By Enemy Forces.
Pilot Totals: Kills 2; Assists 1; Objects 0; Deaths 0.

It seems strange that Shamus recorded a kill on Pand and yet the logs clearly show Pand didn't die.

Is this a logger problem or perhaps a problem with
 http://www.webtreatz.com/tod/lognew.html  ?  I suppose it's possible that a capture isn't treated as a kill.

curly

Title: Re: Problem with the logs?
Post by: Flossy on March 16, 2003, 04:48:26 AM

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Originally posted by AKcurly
It seems strange that Shamus recorded a kill on Pand and yet the logs clearly show Pand didn't die.

Looks to me like Pand bailed, which gave Shamus the kill, but then landed in enemy territory and so was captured.  Nothing at all wrong with the logs.  :)

Title: Re: Re: Problem with the logs?
Post by: AKcurly on March 16, 2003, 05:22:54 AM

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Originally posted by Flossy
Looks to me like Pand bailed, which gave Shamus the kill, but then landed in enemy territory and so was captured.  Nothing at all wrong with the logs.  :)

Ok, but if you look at the logs, there is no capture category.  Therefore, I assumed bailed over enemy territory meant "death."

Thx, Flossy. :)

curly

Title: Problem with the logs?
Post by: Flossy on March 16, 2003, 07:55:12 AM

From the raw logs:
3-14-03 22:37:44 Pand End Flight Captured  412th FS "Braunco Mustangs"

Can't argue with that.  ;)

Title: Problem with the logs?
Post by: AKIron on March 16, 2003, 10:24:25 AM

Not to be argumentative, especially since I don't know how victory is determined, but the captures are not being counted as deaths as shown in the logs. Perhaps the tallies are adjusted later?

anyone have a link to the TOD rules?

Title: Problem with the logs?
Post by: Flossy on March 16, 2003, 10:58:57 AM

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Originally posted by AKIron
anyone have a link to the TOD rules?

Rules are here:  http://events.simladder.com/tod_rules.php

Not sure I follow your argument though.... this is the way it's always been in AH.  You get the kill when the enemy bails, but they don't necessarily die.....  For event purposes, it is a life used, though (they no longer have a plane to fly, having bailed out of it).

Title: Problem with the logs?
Post by: AKIron on March 16, 2003, 12:01:49 PM

Flossy, I don't know how vicitories are determined. Kills vs Deaths seem to be a factor though. Just seems to me that loss of a plane should count the same as a "death." They aren't, at least so far as the posted logs go.

Might be easier to track if bailouts were disallowed by the rules.

Thanks for the link. :)