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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on March 17, 2003, 10:34:34 AM
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http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20030317_261.html
This is very serious. It will spread very quickily due to the fact that Airliners now move bugs from point A to point B. It has a level 1 Trauma unit here in Seattle on a heightened alert with meetings this week to determine how to isolate it and keep it from spreading, which is close to hopeless.
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scary it is:(
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airplanes have always moved bugs all over the world, and unless your a smoker elderly or a little kid you really have nothing to worry about except maybe a week off work for sick leave.
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
airplanes have always moved bugs all over the world, and unless your a smoker elderly or a little kid you really have nothing to worry about except maybe a week off work for sick leave.
Unfortunately, not in this case. The victims that have fell to it have been all ages.
Pneumonia is a lung infection which is usually bacterial but can be viral. SARS is atypical because it produces a dry, not wet cough, and does not have the all the symptoms of regular pneumonia.
"It is possible that this is a new disease. We can't rule that out but we can't say it for certain," Simpson said. "That is one of the reasons we issued this alert."
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Just the latest hysteria to keep people tuning into the 24 hour cable news networks. I wonder how many people have died of plain old flu in the time this story has been going on.
ra
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Could be news hysteria, but this bug has no cure and to get a Level 1 Trauma unit to a heightened alert takes more than just a cold... Stay tuned.
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if the bug has no cure , why didn't all 305 die instead of only 5 ?
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because it isn't 100% fatal.
Originally posted by john9001
if the bug has no cure , why didn't all 305 die instead of only 5 ?
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Originally posted by john9001
if the bug has no cure , why didn't all 305 die instead of only 5 ?
What Kanth said, and the fact that some folks have better immune systems than others.
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Both my kids, my wife and I all came down with the flu this weekend.
Then I read about this..:eek:
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common cold has no cure either. You have to let both run the course of the infection. this SARS is just a little more lethal than the cold, and apparently it's pretty contagious.
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i went to the south pacific for spring break and ive had the flu the past 3 days, seriously doubt it is the sars because im already getting over it. just being on a damn plane will get you sick. 215 fat people farting for 5 hours, man it sucks.
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Originally posted by john9001
if the bug has no cure , why didn't all 305 die instead of only 5 ?
ther is no cure against viruses, but we can handle most of it with our imune systems we have in our body.
just think about the indians in america that got killed by "regular illness as flue" after the white came over. they had never been affected by it and therby no immune system to heal it either.
well lets say this is a flue like the spanish flue that rammed the world about 1918-20, 30 million people died mostly aged 30 to 45 years old somhow.
but ofcourse alot survived (most of them)
there was no airplanes wich moved people around the world at that time as they do now.
Just a tought, if this one kills 10% of the victims there would be around 500 million people dead of todays population.
lol 500mill well that is if all the worlds population is infected hehe that wont happen i hope.
That flue was a virus wich we still have no cure for (we got somthing like they call virusbreakers but dont work on many people)
This might be worse than any war we might see coming.
hope not for sure
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I remember the swine flu scare when I was a kid. I think it killed about 12 people. And 12 million trees, which were cut down to make paper to write about it.
ra
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I'm a RN in a Level I Trauma center, 2nd busiest one in the nation in fact. The notion that a "bug" is causing a Trauma Center to "gear up" is rediculous (sp like whats his face). Trauma Centers handle exactly what their name implies, trauma, infectious disease has no relation to trauma and is treated in an Emergency Room. I do realize that most Level I Trauma Centers like to boast the fact they are L-I, but the sick people will not go there. Just a clarification!:D
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Originally posted by Fuzzybunny
I'm a RN in a Level I Trauma center, 2nd busiest one in the nation in fact. The notion that a "bug" is causing a Trauma Center to "gear up" is rediculous (sp like whats his face). Trauma Centers handle exactly what their name implies, trauma, infectious disease has no relation to trauma and is treated in an Emergency Room. I do realize that most Level I Trauma Centers like to boast the fact they are L-I, but the sick people will not go there. Just a clarification!:D
I use the "Level 1 Trauma center" as an example that it is a state hospital that is not taking this lightly nor are the employees. Being a Level 1 trauma center means being equipped to handle the most serious type of injury at any time. To receive Level 1 verification, a hospital must undergo a rigorous evaluation and meet precise criteria defined by the American College of Surgeons in areas such as:
Emergency room facilities
Operating room facilities
Intensive care units
Laboratory services
Post-anesthesia care
Rehabilitation care
My sources tell me that they are basically using the same "plan" and procedure as they would in a smallpox or anthrax outbreak, that is, only 2 Physicians, one RN in the room that is isolated from the rest of the hosital. Scarey stuff if you speak with the nurses down there as I do.
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A flu with no cure. Simply amazing.
SOB
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Since I have no medical degree I have to trust the experts. If they're worried then I'm worried. Sounds like there are a lot of people at risk.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/03/17/mystery.disease/index.html
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The problem with the flue is that it regularly mutates. There is a "antigenic drift" every 2-3 years which causes epimia. Every 10-40 years there are bigger changes, "antigenic shift", caused by reassortment betweent other species, which cause pandemia with millions of dead. There were 4 Pandemia in the 20th century.
- already mentioned was the spanish pandemia (H1N1 virus) which caused 20 mio dead
- 1957 Asia pandemia (H2N2) and 1968 Hongkong pandemia (H3N2)
- 1977 Russian pandemia (H1N1)
1997 totally new subtype of Influenza A Virus appeared in the Hongkong epipemia
ther is no cure against viruses
... not true - there are a couple of antiviral treatements out there which work against certain types of Influenza when applied within the first 24-48 hours. (e.g. Neuraminidase inhibitors, Amantadin and Rimantadin)
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SARS has not been specified yet but we will hear about it as ssoon as they know more - by chance this week since we'll have lecture with a leading infectionologist in Switzerland.
Personally I think there is no reason to panic... but people like those big catastrophes on tv - while obesity, smoking and traffic kills millions in the meanwhile...
scary it is
Some things that were in the media and here on the boards scare me a thousand times more than any disease!!!
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WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
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me and a lot of people around here are coughing....this is not good:(
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I farted on a plane once and 8 people became very i'll.
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I farted on a plane once and 8 people became very i'll.
And those were people on the GROUND!
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true!
It closed the whole airport LOL.
they even called in the Haz Mat squad.
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Toronto now on the "Places not to travel" Alert.
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But it's mutating!!!
the end is nigh...the end is nigh....
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6304723113.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Tronsky
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Anyone ever read the Stephen King book "The Stand" ? :eek:
SARS BUG DEADLIER THAN AIDS SAYS DOC Apr 24 2003
A LEADING doctor has warned the SARS virus could be more devastating than AIDS.
Dr Patrick Dickson called on world governments to act to stamp out the threat from the deadly respiratory illness.
Dr Dixon, one of Europe's experts on predicting global trends, said it could be more dangerous than AIDS because of its ability to spread quickly.
He said: "It is worth remembering that AIDS has infected 80 million people so far over 15 to 20 years.
"AIDS spreads slowly so we can track it and plan for it. We have effective anti- viral drugs which can prolong life.
"But this is different, we don't have the time. This is a far more serious epidemic potentially than AIDS."
Dr Dixon said his main concern was rural, isolated areas in China and around the world.
He added: "In a country like India, which is chaotic with minimum health provision, the potential for spreading the virus is huge."
Dr Dixon, a fellow at the Centre for Management Development at London Business School, said if current trends continued, there could be a billion cases within 60 weeks.
He has called on world leaders to address the problem as a matter of "national security".
The Government yesterday advised Britons not to travel to Toronto, Hong Kong and the Chinese provinces of Guangdong, Beijing and Shanxi because of SARS.
Toronto is the first location outside Asia added to the list.
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lets just nuke the whole world and kill everything no disease, no problem, no war, no problem, no humans, no problem.
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"HaaaaacccccK" SARS?
:D
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Originally posted by Dingbat
lets just nuke the whole world and kill everything no disease, no problem, no war, no problem, no humans, no problem.
Mother Nature does that every million years or so anyway, start with a clean slate...
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I've heard on the radio today that WHO "upgraded" the SARS mortality rate from 5% to 7%.
There are no data on how many people that are exposed the infection actually develop the desease - even for plague it was not 100%.
Estimating conservatively that only 50% of the population in a dense metropolis with wast public transtport are exposed to the virus and 20% of those develop the desease and 7% of those die, that makes 0.7% of the population dies or 7 out of every 1000.
For 8 million NYC that would make 50-60 thousand dead.
I cannot imagine how that desease could possibly not enter and spread in NYC. The next couple of months should be interesting to watch and live through around here.
miko
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Seems like one day I'll wake up I'll be the next "Omega Man".
Good Movie.
:D