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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: funkedup on March 17, 2003, 05:12:48 PM
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When the war starts, are you going to continue to allow people to openly root for the enemies of the US? I'm not talking about people who simply don't like the USA, or don't agree with US government policies. I'm talking about people openly expressing support for terrorists and Iraqi armed forces killing US armed forces.
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nope. just polished up my louisville slugger.
dunno bout you, but i have quite a bit of 'protester' angst that would be good to finally unload... i recall vividly being spit upon when i came home in 1972..
that just ain't gonna happen again.
ever.
as long as i breathe.
i encourage free speach. just stay clear of my backswing.
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I'll take care of it with my special brand of charm and compasion towards usa hating leftist degenerates... :D
As long as bug322 keeps my dozer well oiled and ready. :rolleyes:
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you mean censorship of political views?
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Surprisingly enough, I tend to be a rabid patriot at times like this.
OTOH, who exactly has been rooting for the other side Funked?
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I'm talking about people openly expressing support for terrorists and Iraqi armed forces killing US armed forces.
In a time of war that goes way beyond "political views".
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No, no... I agree with Animal, don't censor their political views.
As a matter of fact, start a new thread pointing out the post, the handle, IP address, and/or ISP name.
I'll happily accomodate their political views if I am located near them.
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a view, an opion, etc.. all that's fine.
but don't bash me or my country and expect me to turn the other cheek... at least not without something to back it up...
something bigger than mine
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say what you want. i invite incensed diatribe directed towards the elected officials of our nation.
spit on a troop, make a snide comment or obscene gesture inside my hearing or line of vision to a troop.. yer gonna see some toejam.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
say what you want. i invite incensed diatribe directed towards the elected officials of our nation.
spit on a troop, make a snide comment or obscene gesture inside my hearing or line of vision to a troop.. yer gonna see some toejam.
Well then.... I would happily be your wing man.
(Our local ARB just went active)
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I think what funked is getting around to is that on AGW, a certain member actually said he hoped US troops would die in the possible war to come...sad, very sad.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
nope. just polished up my louisville slugger.
dunno bout you, but i have quite a bit of 'protester' angst that would be good to finally unload... i recall vividly being spit upon when i came home in 1972..
Hang, I too had pigs blood dumped on me while on leave and in uniform in '70. The reason I was targeted, IMO, was because of the media access to the war and the free distribution of the images and text from the reporters. We won't see the kind of free flow of information like that in any war these days. Sadly, we can't say the same about disinformation, IMO. There has been a lesson learned.
It was easy for the protesters then to latch onto some very negative images and stories from Nam and turn it into a point of debate against the war, unfortunatly for me, I represented the government and was a target of opportunity.
That hasn't blinded me to the fact that this country was born out of public protest, whether you agree or disagree with what they say should make no difference to the soldier in uniform or a vet in jeans...it's their right, we fought for it, others gave the ultimate.
To threaten to act with violence on these people over and above the threat given is not only uncalled for but if acted out, criminal.
Seriously, if you have this kind of anger built up over something that happened 30 years ago then a visit to your local VA hospital and enroling into one of theirtherapy grtoups may help...did me and I still go every 2 months or so.,
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My problem with protesters TODAY is that they get bolder, and bolder...
http://agw.warbirdsiii.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17433&pagenumber=1
Simply disgusting IMO.(Read first post quote)
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I'll never understand why they took it out on the soldier during nam. Hate what the government is doing so hurt your brother cause he happens to be doing the right thing by serving his country. You change things by voting, and i'll bet have those protesters weren't even registered to vote.
I still hear people complain cause the vets get put on the top of hiring lists for the fire,police, etc. depts. It's the least we can do for them.
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The problem with some protestors is that when exercising their right to protest they trample on others rights to go along living peacefully. Actions such as throwing blood on people and blocking bridges and streets and setting fires are all against the law. When they get arrested they complain that the government is taking away their right to protest. Its a lose lose situation for the government no matter what party is in power.
The only protest that ever got my full attention was when the Vietnam Vets marched pass the White House and threw their medals over the fence. That made me do a lot of rethinking about how I felt about the Vietnam War.
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Hangtime, Mr. Lars...
Thank you for serving your country and doing bravely what so many others would not.
Anytime your in NY, You've got a place to stay, and a buddy to buy you a round.
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Fear must be growing.
fear leads to hate.
hate leads to anger
Anger leads to the dark side.
Bit premature to dust of your favorite "last time we lost" story.
Those men over their have our support. They have the support of the Canadian and US public. But Bush and Ruhmsfeld cant hide behind that support. Nor can the people that posted such aggressive hogwash on this BBS now declare its against the rules to disagree with them.
No one was banned for saying nuke bagdad. No one has been baned for the most outrageos racist hatred on the Iraqis.
I will be on side pouncing on anyone that attacks US service men on the BBS. And I hope that people that pump hatred from both sides are banned. For ever.
But establishing this BBS as an arm of the Pro Invasion party..is just crazy.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
My problem with protesters TODAY is that they get bolder, and bolder...
http://agw.warbirdsiii.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17433&pagenumber=1
Simply disgusting IMO.(Read first post quote)
I'll give him this much... it's an excellent troll.
Shake it off, boys.
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Yeah sand. Excellent troll. The kind of troll that could get a guy seriously hurt. Deservedly so unfortunately.
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Originally posted by Yeager
Yeah sand. Excellent troll. The kind of troll that could get a guy seriously hurt. Deservedly so unfortunately.
Damn straight... let's beat the guy for saying something that makes us angry.
Not exactly what I would consider the moral high ground.
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The only protest that ever got my full attention was when the Vietnam Vets marched pass the White House and threw their medals over the fence. That made me do a lot of rethinking about how I felt about the Vietnam War.
Think harder.
I don't trust Kerry. The guys that served with Kerry don't trust him.
I saw a LOT of people using the Vets as tools.. Kerry was one of them.
The war was not wrong.. what folks forget is that politicians attempting to run that war is what was wrong. We could have been out of vietnam inside of 2 years, mission accopmplished; if we had been allowed to fight a WAR.
Think on that. Think on what we are doing in Iraq.. if you can see your way clear to accept the principal of what we are doing in Iraq, then you CANNOT condem the Vietnam war as 'wrong'. But you sure as hell CAN condem Washington for the way they prosecuted it.
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Originally posted by Pongo
But establishing this BBS as an arm of the Pro Invasion party..is just crazy.
I'm not talking about people who simply don't like the USA, or don't agree with US government policies. I'm talking about people openly expressing support for terrorists and Iraqi armed forces killing US armed forces.
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Think on that. Think on what we are doing in Iraq.. if you can see your way clear to accept the principal of what we are doing in Iraq, then you CANNOT condem the Vietnam war as 'wrong'. But you sure as hell CAN condem Washington for the way they prosecuted it.
I dont know Hang. I think they are wrong in different ways.
But now is not the time.
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i dunno.. you're prolly right. I'm pretty sure you and i could discuss it without gettin hysterical. but, with tensions so high.. and with so many folks in europe that post here having a very odd view of vietnam and americas involvement, it's a sure thing this would get crazy.
lets save it for another day. it could be very intresting. ;)
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You'll have to forgive me fellas...
I was a police officer for 7 years, but was never in the military. I've suffered some abuses just because I wore a badge on my chest, and experienced hatred just because of a uniform I was wearing. For some reason, I was always able to deal with it pretty easily. I always just chalked it up to ignorance.
However, for some strange reason, I don't deal with others getting stepped on and abused quite so easily. It's one thing for a person to do it me, that I can handle. But when I see it happening to someone else, it infuriates me.
If I saw someone dump pig's blood or spit on a U.S. Soldier, I would pummel that person bloody, freedom of speech or expression be damned.
Maybe I need counseling for it, but I'll go seek it after the fact.