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Title: What weapon is this?
Post by: Hortlund on March 18, 2003, 06:55:22 AM: (http://a799.g.akamai.net/3/799/388/d463de40bc98af/www.msnbc.com/news/1826723.jpg)

The guy in the middle. I'm pretty sure the guy to the left has a M-136 or AT-4 (Swedish weapon you know). But what on earth is that thing the guy in the middle has?
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Post by: straffo on March 18, 2003, 07:05:44 AM: What about a laser ?

It's an hypothese I'm pretty incompetent about ground warfare.
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Post by: Vulcan on March 18, 2003, 08:57:03 AM: MBT LAW on the left and the guy is carrying a night sight for it?
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Post by: john9001 on March 18, 2003, 09:00:33 AM: it's a potato gun , they shoot potatos at starving iraq's and capture them when their eating.
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Post by: Hortlund on March 18, 2003, 09:00:50 AM: MBT LAW?
Is that the latest designation on that one?

It is a one shot disposable anti tank weapon made in Sweden. Here it is called "Pansarskott m/86" (the translation would be something like "Anti tank weapon, model 86")

I know that it was called AT-4 before, and/or M-136, but I did not know it had been changed again.

Its a great weapon though.
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Post by: Scootter on March 18, 2003, 09:21:13 AM: Yea it's an AT-4 new mod with optic sight I think not sure of mod number.
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Post by: Hortlund on March 18, 2003, 09:24:43 AM: So the guy in the middle attaches his thing/sight to the AT-4 on the back of the guy to the left? Is that it?
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Post by: Scootter on March 18, 2003, 09:58:17 AM: yes the guy with thE AT-4 has no M-16a2 he is the AT gunner, the guy on his right is carrying the gunners 2nd shot, as its a one shot tube (the sight gos on the next tube).
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Post by: Raubvogel on March 18, 2003, 10:09:07 AM: LOL, let me put all this crap and guessing to rest.

The guy on the left has a AT4 (or M136, same thing). It is one shot and throw away.

The guy in the middle has a FGM-77 Dragon anti-tank missile system. You can see the bipod legs at the upper left of the tube. It is a training weapon, the protective foam on the sight and the rear of the tube is missing.
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Post by: batdog on March 18, 2003, 10:17:55 AM: They still use Dragons? I rem those things.... dont they make that clicking sound as they naviagate vie wire to the target w/those mini rockets correcting the path?

Its been a ALONG time.
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Post by: Pongo on March 18, 2003, 10:40:52 AM: Thats not a dragon.
The marines adopted an Isreali weapon many years ago called the B300 I believe. It is primarily an anti fortification weapon that uses seperate ammo like that thing looks like it must. Thats all I could guess. The AT4 on the left is not related I think.

US should never have given up on Recoiless rifles. The 84mm Carl Gustav was about the best infantry heavy weapon ever made.
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Post by: Raubvogel on March 18, 2003, 10:47:11 AM: Those aren't Marines, and the Marines use a version of the M136 for anti-fortification work.
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Post by: Wlfgng on March 18, 2003, 10:51:40 AM: definately NOT marines.. lol

those are reg army
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Post by: lord dolf vader on March 18, 2003, 10:54:47 AM: 84mm Carl Gustav jeepers 500mm of armor penitration and hand held ?

aint that somthing. kill a any main battle tank from any angle.

why dont we use um ?
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Post by: Hortlund on March 18, 2003, 11:00:40 AM: Carl Gustaf...another Swedish weapon *semi-proud*
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Post by: Hortlund on March 18, 2003, 11:03:56 AM: You are very wrong on the armor penetration for the CG 84mm though. When I was in the army (infantry squad leader) we were told never to use the CG on MBT's, maybe maybe if we had good flank shots, but it was generally a bad idea. Instead the CG was used to take out APCs and fortified locations, and the AT-4s were to take out the MBTs.

Yup..the AT-4 has better armor penetration than CG. At least back in 93. I know there are new ammo out for the CG, but then again, the AT-4 has an improved version too that is said to take out any east block tank from the front.
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Post by: Pongo on March 18, 2003, 11:19:41 AM: Ya its a SMAW(b300)
They gave the army 500 of them apperenlty.
Very good for street fighting as you can carry way more ammo for it and the after penetration effect of the anti bunker round very good.

smaw (http://www.hqmc.usmc.mil/factfile.nsf/7e931335d515626a8525628100676e0c/57c7ea3d1a309a1d8525628100779b0c?OpenDocument)
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Post by: batdog on March 18, 2003, 12:28:44 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Pongo
Thats not a dragon.
The marines adopted an Isreali weapon many years ago called the B300 I believe. It is primarily an anti fortification weapon that uses seperate ammo like that thing looks like it must. Thats all I could guess. The AT4 on the left is not related I think.

US should never have given up on Recoiless rifles. The 84mm Carl Gustav was about the best infantry heavy weapon ever made.

Light infantry and Ranger units still use 90mm recoiless, I think.
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Post by: Pongo on March 18, 2003, 03:34:39 PM: I had worked with rangers and thier 90mm in the late 80s. I think its like the SMAW. Not a normal issue weapon but used for specific situations. They will likely break them out for bagdad.
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Post by: Charon on March 18, 2003, 03:34:53 PM: Man, that Dragon was a POS. It was painfully uncomfortable just to get it in a firing position. I thought they got rid of all those finally.

Charon
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Post by: Pongo on March 18, 2003, 05:23:43 PM: I believe they have. with the Javalin. A fire and forget ir system. I dont know how many Dragon are still in use. Probably quite a few though.