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Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 19, 2003, 09:40:39 PM
Today I weep for my country," said West Virginia Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd. "No more is the image of America one of strong, yet benevolent peacekeeper. ... Around the globe, our friends mistrust us, our word is disputed, our intentions are questioned.


"We flaunt our superpower status with arrogance," Byrd said, adding: "After war has ended the United States will have to rebuild much more than the country of Iraq. We will have to rebuild America's image around the globe."


My take?

GET THE diddly OUT IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YA CRACHETY OLD LIMP DICKED diddly HEAD!!

You weep for your country? diddly you! You've been on the take for 40 diddlyin' years. Yeah, you weep for us, but you'll still vote yourself a raise, and pick up that fat government check.

Tell ya what gramps...don't want to be part of it? Lets see if you;ve got the balls of the brits, and resign! Go work in a diddlyin wal-mart handing out circulars.

We're fighting a diddlyin war here. Shut up until it's over. Then go back to the roadkill partisan politics that REALLY destroying this country.

TODAY, I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!! diddly YOU, BYRD!

GOD, I'm Pissed off!

Somebody get me this diddlys e-mail address!!

MOTHER diddlyER!!!!
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Eagler on March 19, 2003, 09:44:15 PM
E-mail
senator_byrd@byrd.senate.gov

:)
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: batdog on March 19, 2003, 09:45:17 PM
Lets hope it pisses alot of people off and they manage to remember at the next elections...
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 19, 2003, 09:46:01 PM
Thank you...

Cut paste...the hell with being articulate.

I'm too angry to use the proper english right now.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 19, 2003, 09:49:53 PM
diddly him. I don't give a damn if I sound like a raving lunatic. You guys know me. I don't lose my temper like this often.

I must be having a BGB moment...of this bastard really hit a nerve.

Golly-geen him!

I'm sitting here, literally praying for the safety of our troops, and the innocent Iraqis (And I don't even believe in God, but it can't hurt) and here is this bastard talking trash.

Golly-geen him!
Title: Yup....The truth has a tendency to piss people off.
Post by: weazel on March 19, 2003, 10:03:17 PM
Typical right wing roadkill rant that *conveniently* forgets about the U.S. Constitution:

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Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Not to mention that he is in government service and is part of our system of checks and balances....

Do you want a one party system or do you just want the Democratic party to automatically rubber stamp the Republican agenda?

Then we have the kicker:

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We're fighting a diddlyin war here. Shut up until it's over. Then go back to the roadkill partisan politics that REALLY destroying this country.


Get a grip.....your sounding kinda partisan yourself.



"Today I weep for my country," said West Virginia Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd. "No more is the image of America one of strong, yet benevolent peacekeeper. ... Around the globe, our friends mistrust us, our word is disputed, our intentions are questioned."


"We flaunt our superpower status with arrogance," Byrd said, adding: "After war has ended the United States will have to rebuild much more than the country of Iraq. We will have to rebuild America's image around the globe."


It makes me glad to see one Democrat politician still has a spine..even if he is a dirtbag.
Title: Re: Yup....The truth has a tendency to piss people off.
Post by: batdog on March 19, 2003, 10:21:32 PM
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Originally posted by weazel
Typical right wing roadkill rant that *conveniently* forgets about the U.S. Constitution:

 

Not to mention that he is in government service and is part of our system of checks and balances....

Do you want a one party system or do you just want the Democratic party to automatically rubber stamp the Republican agenda?

Then we have the kicker:



Get a grip.....your sounding kinda partisan yourself.



"Today I weep for my country," said West Virginia Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd. "No more is the image of America one of strong, yet benevolent peacekeeper. ... Around the globe, our friends mistrust us, our word is disputed, our intentions are questioned."


"We flaunt our superpower status with arrogance," Byrd said, adding: "After war has ended the United States will have to rebuild much more than the country of Iraq. We will have to rebuild America's image around the globe."


It makes me glad to see one Democrat politician still has a spine..even if he is a dirtbag.



Weasel... you telling somebody to get a grip is ironic at best.

This indiv made a statement at a moment w/this nation needs to stand united...ie American lives are on the line.

He's made a partisin statement that is gambling that this our war w/Iraq is going to be a failure. He can THEN say... "I told you so"

He needed to simply STFU and show some decency. If you where a GD parent and knew your son/daughter was going into harms way but your rep was spouting crap like this off...
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Dune on March 19, 2003, 10:37:33 PM
This is a prime example of hyprocracy.

Byrd says, "Blah, blah and blah."

Muck reacts to Byrd's statements and tells him to diddly off and that he thinks Byrd is senile, etc., etc.

Weazel parades out the Constitution and tells Muck to stop being a Right wing facist.  Byrd can say whatever he wants.

Well, guess what?  So can Muck.  If Byrd can say he's saddened for his country, Muck can call him a love muffin and anything else.  And both can say these things for the same reasons, because of the Constitution.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: rc51 on March 19, 2003, 10:40:10 PM
Muckmaw I knew i liked you.
great post I agree 100 %
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Yeager on March 19, 2003, 10:48:28 PM
Weazel.  Saying what you believe is critical.  Its essential.  However, there is a correct time to voice doubt about your countries actions and an incorrect time.  With 240,000 americans on the edge of the Iraqi border, willing, volunteering to give their lives for you and I (regardless of who is president) this just isnt the time to state such devisive opinions in the Senate chamber.
A man as old and wise as Byrd should be able to calculate the appropriate time and place for such division.

I am ashamed of Byrd but I will never be ashamed of my country.
Even Bill Clinton could not bring me to shame the nation which I am blessed to live in.

Daschle is also a shameful and disrespectful man.

McDermmott is an amazinhunk of cosmic proportions.

The democratic party, far from being a pursuasive and legitimate option to many people who pride themsleves on "no party" affiliation has become an embarrasment to a majority of Americans.
Title: No more of an embarrasment than Bush is to many Americans Yeager.
Post by: weazel on March 19, 2003, 11:23:59 PM
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The democratic party, far from being a pursuasive and legitimate option to many people who pride themsleves on "no party" affiliation has become an embarrasment to a majority of Americans.


I'm embarrased by both parties Yeager, I've stated many times on this board that it's time to kick both of the hogs away from the public trough.

You missed the point completely Dune, in the midst of your knee jerk you failed to consider that primarily I'm trying to provoke thought about checks and balances.

The way I see it is Byrd is doing the job he was elected to do....or do you also just want the opposition party to rubber stamp the others policies?

Yup...that would be a *real* democracy wouldn't it?

Gee...just think, Bill Clinton was ready to move on Iraq several years ago...did he get any support from the republican party or were they too busy obsessing about his cock and a stained dress to bother?

Gosh my heart is just BLEEDING right now for the right wings pain.....maybe someone will send you a piece of Monicas stained dress to dry your tears on.

Yessiree Bob, the Republican party is full of *real* patriots just like Byrd.

Mucks screaming about partisan politics is hypocrisy as well.....funny I don't see you taking him to task about it.....you wouldn't happen to be a Republican or Bush supporter would you?

Nah...couldn't be. :rolleyes:
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: SOB on March 19, 2003, 11:28:01 PM
I love you Muck, you angry, whacky bastard.  :D


SOB
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Raubvogel on March 19, 2003, 11:30:58 PM
Who gives a toejam what Robert Byrd has to say? I have better things to worry about than what some old KKK dinosaur thinks.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Hangtime on March 19, 2003, 11:35:36 PM
lock 'n load, kids. take notes. remember to vote.

ditto, muck;
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Erlkonig on March 20, 2003, 02:36:28 AM
muckmaw, do yourself a favor and STFU.  It's beginning to look like you've spent too much time around BGBwhatever.
Title: Re: No more of an embarrasment than Bush is to many Americans Yeager.
Post by: X2Lee on March 20, 2003, 06:15:14 AM
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Originally posted by weazel
Gee...just think, Bill Clinton was ready to move on Iraq several years ago...did he get any support from the republican party or were they too busy obsessing about his cock and a stained dress to bother?
...couldn't be. :rolleyes:



LOL clinton was a coward from day 1, when he decided to start a war it was to get folks minds off his cock.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Nash on March 20, 2003, 06:17:17 AM
If it took a war, it shows beyond a doubt how fixated some folks were with said cock. :D
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Vermillion on March 20, 2003, 07:19:03 AM
I'm from WV, I hate Byrd's senile antics, and I vote.

Unfortunately, the only way Byrd will lose his position, is when he dies of old age.  And even then, the democratic machine will probably freeze his body, and thaw him out for special occaisions.

WV effectively is a one party state.  No joke.

The really strange part is that the people of the state are very conservative.  But because of the history here, are very labor oriented (the coal history), which means Democrats.

I know it doesn't make sense.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 20, 2003, 07:47:44 AM
Let's see, where to start...

Weazel-

I agree Byrd has every right to speak his mind. Why is he doing it now, though? We're on the eve of war. People are at risk, on both sides...soldiers AND civilians. As I write this, I can see combat patrols over my hometown. The first ammendment protects Mr. Byrds right to speak out. Checks and Balances makes it his duty. But there is a time and place for everything. How would the soldier in the field feel if an elected official of the country he is defending is spouting off as Byrd did?

I'm not Partisan. I vote for whom I believe in. I voted for Clinton...the first time. I do not subscribe to a party. I believe partisan politics are terrible. Though we need a multiparty system, the fact that most politicos simply follow the party line to promote their and their parties agenda is sickening to me, whether they be Dem or Rep.

Erlkonig-

I can say whatever I want. If I feel like spouting off and being angry, I can. That's the beauty of the 1st amendment. And you have every right to tell me to STFU. Don't you think you can be a little more creative, though? Tell you what. Get some crayons and paper, write some decent remarks, and get back to me. I'll be here.

As for BGB. He is my friend, and my squadmate. He is emotional. He is honest and true and you always know where you stand with him. Thats what makes him so endearing. I'd rather have an honest man who speaks his unpolished feelings than someone with a PhD whom you cannot trust.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Modas on March 20, 2003, 07:50:09 AM
:D

I rate that one a 9.  Excellent use of the "F" and MF word.  Could've used that one a little more.  I'm rather fond of it myself   :D

I agree.  Its started.  The time for debate and the anti-war demonstrations is over.  The decision is made and its time to cut the crap and support the troops.

When its over, you can go back to your political BS....

Good luck and Godspeed to the all the troops over there
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: StSanta on March 20, 2003, 09:32:37 AM
Hm, the guy says publicly what he believes. He represents the people that has voted for him.

And he is right in one sense; this incident has taarnished the US image around the globe. After 9/11, the world was behind the US. Now, the sympathy has drained away in big part due to Bush's poor handling and 'selling' of the Iraq war.

And that is the crux of the problem here; the current administration has made a very bad case for war and has made several miscalculations - one being going through the UN without knowing the outcome would be support for war. Then lack of evidence.

What I am saying is that the US might be right. But they've done a piss poor job outta showing that they are. PR wise it has been an utter disaster. Which is a real shame really; nothing is as annoying as knowing you are right yet being unable to convince others of it. For the average guy on the ground, understanding of the total situation here is almost nil. They go with gut feelings and are greatly influenced by the friends around them. Ifmost are anti war, oh, they gotta be right, so I am anti war too. It's simply group dynamics.

And Byrd is also commenting on the great shift of doctrine. Now, pre-emptive attacks where before there was a response to violence or other incidents. Instead of being the defender, now the US is the attacker (or PERCEIVED as such in most of the world).

Think it is good that there is a political system where the entire spectrum is covered. I disaggree with muckmaws suggestion that Byrd should shut up, although I feel compassionately that he is right with regards to the timing of Byrds comments. But it is a democracy. Bet I know what muckmaw WON't be voting :).
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 20, 2003, 09:37:52 AM
It's not like I have a choice, Santa. I don't live in his district.

But I don't vote along party line either.

I vote for whom I believe in and agree with.

And I agree that it took great courage to speak up from an position where you know your going to be attacked, which is what Byrd did. However, I question his timing, and more so, his wording.

I simply despise talking head politicos that only give lip service based on which party they belong to, be they republican or democrat.

Speak your mind, when the time is appropriate. Be honest, and don't be a puppet to your party, and you'll get my vote.

Unless your name is Hillary...:D
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Hangtime on March 20, 2003, 09:42:42 AM
Santa, america is not willing to sit around waiting to get hit again, and again, and again... before we take action.

world 'opinion' will never santion pre-emptive action.

i had a guy once stand in front of me and say 'i'm gonna pound yer face in and cut yer balls off'. i was certain he would. so i swung first. and hard. and i made sure he couldn't ever threaten me again.

thats all we're doing.

and diddly 'world opinion'.

;)
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 20, 2003, 09:44:24 AM
If I was'nt MAW, I'd be signing up with FDB, just to hang with Hangtime. <>
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: CptTrips on March 20, 2003, 09:50:34 AM
I really don't have the patience to listen to the moralizing of a man that was a card carrying member of the KKK.

Wab
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Eaglecz on March 20, 2003, 09:55:16 AM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Santa, america is not willing to sit around waiting to get hit again, and again, and again... before we take action.
 


its only question of time... i do not have any hasitation it will happen again...

coz you are sooo good
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Hangtime on March 20, 2003, 09:58:55 AM
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its only question of time... i do not have any hasitation it will happen again...


i also have no doubt we will take some blows.

and i have no doubt who will be left standing proud when it's all over.

go diddly yerself eaglecz.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Vermillion on March 20, 2003, 10:20:00 AM
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Hm, the guy says publicly what he believes. He represents the people that has voted for him


I'm one of his "constituents".  And I can tell you that he is not representing the people that voted for him.

WV is one of the most conservative, traditional, and pro-military portions of the US.  Support for the war is way up in the 80%+ range in this state.  We're what you Euro's would call, backwoods illiterate redneck hillbilly/cowboys. ;) (joking with you StSanta... sorta hehehe) If you don't own a gun or believe in God when you cross the border, we'll issue you a weapon, a Bible, and schedule a proper revival for you ! ;)

Byrd is playing to the Democratic party, its own very far left liberal wing, and the basic "Anti-Bush" propaganda.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: crowMAW on March 20, 2003, 11:09:00 AM
Our troops are in action now, so this will be the last comment I make on this subject.  I support our troops and hope that they can achieve their mission quickly and safely.

I am not ashamed of my country. I am not ashamed to be an American.  

I am also not ashamed to say that I am neither Republican nor Democrat...I am a Libertarian.  Like Muck, I vote for the most qualified person, which has meant Reagan twice and Bush Sr twice (who in my opinion was probably one of the most intelligent and best presidents this nation has ever had).

I also cannot say that I respect the politics and political shenanigans of Byrd.  I personally would not vote for the man.

But I will say that I am ashamed of our President and the way he has represented me and my country.  He has manufactured a crisis rather than responded to one.  And as my right as an American I will do everything that my one voice and one vote can do to make sure this idiot does not have another opportunity to further damage the reputation of my country.  A reputation that I will have deal with as I travel abroad and that this nation will have to overcome in the future in order to become respected again. (Flame away...as I said, I will say no more and will not even be back to view this thread or any other on this subject)

What Byrd said was right.  And he never said he was ashamed of this country.  Rather than basing your conclusion on sound bites from CNN, read the whole speech:

The Arrogance of Power

I believe in this beautiful country. I have studied its roots and gloried in the wisdom of its magnificent Constitution. I have marveled at the wisdom of its founders and framers. Generation after generation of Americans has understood the lofty ideals that underlie our great Republic. I have been inspired by the story of their sacrifice and their strength.

But, today I weep for my country. I have watched the events of recent months with a heavy, heavy heart. No more is the image of America one of strong, yet benevolent peacekeeper. The image of America has changed. Around the globe, our friends mistrust us, our word is disputed, our intentions are questioned.

Instead of reasoning with those with whom we disagree, we demand obedience or threaten recrimination. Instead of isolating Saddam Hussein, we seem to have isolated ourselves. We proclaim a new doctrine of preemption which is understood by few and feared by many. We say that the United States has the right to turn its firepower on any corner of the globe which might be suspect in the war on terrorism. We assert that right without the sanction of any international body. As a result, the world has become a much more dangerous place.

We flaunt our superpower status with arrogance. We treat UN Security Council members like ingrates who offend our princely dignity by lifting their heads from the carpet. Valuable alliances are split. After war has ended, the United States will have to rebuild much more than the country of Iraq. We will have to rebuild America's image around the globe.

The case this Administration tries to make to justify its fixation with war is tainted by charges of falsified documents and circumstantial evidence. We cannot convince the world of the necessity of this war for one simple reason. This is a war of choice.

There is no credible information to connect Saddam Hussein to 9/11. The twin towers fell because a world-wide terrorist group, Al Qaeda, with cells in over 60 nations, struck at our wealth and our influence by turning our own planes into missiles, one of which would likely have slammed into the dome of this beautiful Capitol except for the brave sacrifice of the passengers on board.
 
The brutality seen on September 11th and in other terrorist attacks we have witnessed around the globe are the violent and desperate efforts by extremists to stop the daily encroachment of western values upon their cultures. That is what we fight. It is a force not confined to borders. It is a shadowy entity with many faces, many names, and many addresses.

But, this Administration has directed all of the anger, fear, and grief which emerged from the ashes of the twin towers and the twisted metal of the Pentagon towards a tangible villain, one we can see and hate and attack. And villain he is. But, he is the wrong villain. And this is the wrong war. If we attack Saddam Hussein, we will probably drive him from power. But, the zeal of our friends to assist our global war on terrorism may have already taken flight.

The general unease surrounding this war is not just due to "orange alert." There is a pervasive sense of rush and risk and too many questions unanswered. How long will we be in Iraq? What will be the cost? What is the ultimate mission? How great is the danger at home? A pall has fallen over the Senate Chamber. We avoid our solemn duty to debate the one topic on the minds of all Americans, even while scores of thousands of our sons and daughters faithfully do their duty in Iraq.

What is happening to this country? When did we become a nation which ignores and berates our friends? When did we decide to risk undermining international order by adopting a radical and doctrinaire approach to using our awesome military might? How can we abandon diplomatic efforts when the turmoil in the world cries out for diplomacy?

Why can this President not seem to see that America's true power lies not in its will to intimidate, but in its ability to inspire?

War appears inevitable. But, I continue to hope that the cloud will lift. Perhaps Saddam will yet turn tail and run. Perhaps reason will somehow still prevail. I along with millions of Americans will pray for the safety of our troops, for the innocent civilians in Iraq, and for the security of our homeland. May God continue to bless the United States of America in the troubled days ahead, and may we somehow recapture the vision which for the present eludes us.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 20, 2003, 11:26:10 AM
I did not know you were a Librarian, Crow.

Can you explain that Dewey Decimal system to me sometime?:D
Title: Re: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Airhead on March 20, 2003, 11:30:25 AM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Today I weep for my country," said West Virginia Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd. "No more is the image of America one of strong, yet benevolent peacekeeper. ... Around the globe, our friends mistrust us, our word is disputed, our intentions are questioned.


"We flaunt our superpower status with arrogance," Byrd said, adding: "After war has ended the United States will have to rebuild much more than the country of Iraq. We will have to rebuild America's image around the globe."


My take?

GET THE diddly OUT IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YA CRACHETY OLD LIMP DICKED diddly HEAD!!

You weep for your country? diddly you! You've been on the take for 40 diddlyin' years. Yeah, you weep for us, but you'll still vote yourself a raise, and pick up that fat government check.

Tell ya what gramps...don't want to be part of it? Lets see if you;ve got the balls of the brits, and resign! Go work in a diddlyin wal-mart handing out circulars.

We're fighting a diddlyin war here. Shut up until it's over. Then go back to the roadkill partisan politics that REALLY destroying this country.

TODAY, I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!! diddly YOU, BYRD!

GOD, I'm Pissed off!

Somebody get me this diddlys e-mail address!!

MOTHER diddlyER!!!!


In the MAW tradition another brilliant, well-articulated post. Well done. :rolleyes:
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: StSanta on March 20, 2003, 11:36:38 AM
Hangtime wrote:

go diddly yerself eaglecz.

Noooo, let me, let me!

Wir haben metoden!
Must get zere before ze eil pigdokgs FBDs get zere!

Joking aside, I guess I am a hippy, coz I also value eaglecs's input. Diversity. Kumbaya. Give peace a chance. Can't we all be friends?

to the world :D
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Rasker on March 20, 2003, 11:40:01 AM
Eaglecz and boroda, were you two sad when Communism collapsed and the Soviet Union broke up?  Just checking.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 20, 2003, 11:56:54 AM
Oh, Lord, Airhead...you don't approve?

Let me cry myself to sleep now.

Really, I justdon't know how I can live with myself, now that I've disgraced myself in your eyes.

When your opinion actually means something to me, I'll let you know.

The post is MINE. Not the MAW's. When you see all 68 members sign a post, then it's the position of the squad.

Until then, come up with something more original than a MAW bash.

Try making fun of my handle...there's lots of words that rhyme with Muck. That would be original.

Let me give you one. "Schmuck"

I'll use it in a sentence: Airhead is a Schmuck.

See? Thats not hard.

Work on it....get back to me.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Airhead on March 20, 2003, 12:45:09 PM
Nah...It's not that I disapprove as much as I'm wondering why you are allowed to continue to drop F-Bombs on the Board. I think a clue might be the "68 members" statement- 68 times 14.95 a month gives you the right to drop F-Bombs, I guess.

By all means, carry on with your name calling, profanity and general stupidity, made all the easier from the safety of your living room. Just quit whining when someone like me posts an objection to a profanity filled rant.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 20, 2003, 12:49:44 PM
Airhead-

If you were offended by the profanity, I do sincerely apologize. It is not normally my nature. If you check almost all of my posts, you will see I do not normally use that type of language. You have to understand, like any human being, I lose my temper from time to time. This was one of those times. This particular article hit a nerve at a time when partisan politics have irritated me to no end.

I am not being sarcastic. If you were offended by the use of profanity, I do sincerely apologize. I will make an effort to control it in the future.

Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: JBA on March 20, 2003, 01:02:34 PM
http://www.senate.gov/


all sen. e-mail address and voteing record...
note that Kerry and Edwards have missed all but 4 votes this year..out of 40+ bills....guess when you run for Pres. you don't contraversal votes to hunt you.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: AronL on March 20, 2003, 01:06:41 PM
Robert Byrd is an inteligent man.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 20, 2003, 01:09:47 PM
What happened Aron? You changed your Sig pretty fast.

Not a Submarine Engeneer anymore?

What are you now, an Astrownot?
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Raubvogel on March 20, 2003, 01:36:06 PM
No, he's an inteligent man. :)
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Vermillion on March 20, 2003, 01:37:48 PM
*psssst* MuckMAW

If he's a real engineer, ask him to provide his PE license # and which state he's registered in ;)  Jeezz... even Engineers don't spell THAT bad :p
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 20, 2003, 01:47:54 PM
Verm-


I don't think I need to bother. He already changed his sig.

I can stand alot of things in this world, except people that pretend to be something they're not. It insults those who actually earned the education to really get the career.

The only thing worse to me, are people that make up fake military careers.

Who was the guy who flew F-16s for the CIA?
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Scootter on March 20, 2003, 01:56:05 PM
ARONL ....is my guess about 14 or 15 years old C- student and is out to save the world.

When he pays a mortgage has kids in school and starts to have back pain in the PM. I bet his views will change.

ARONL quit the staying home sick act and get back in class.
Title: that would be Voss IIRC.
Post by: weazel on March 20, 2003, 01:57:34 PM
"The only thing worse to me, are people that make up fake military careers.

Who was the guy who flew F-16s for the CIA?"
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: AronL on March 20, 2003, 01:59:10 PM
You guys are funny :D

your mother name you muckmaw?
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: N1kPaz on March 20, 2003, 02:08:10 PM
Byrd looks drunk all the time. I bet he has a bottle in his jacket.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 20, 2003, 02:17:17 PM
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Originally posted by AronL
You guys are funny :D

your mother name you muckmaw?


Uh, Yeah.

If you check my sig, which is spelled correctly, unlike yours was, you can see, my mother and father got together, and named me Joseph Pizzo. Now, stay with me here, it may get confusing for you. "MUCK" is a callsign the squad gave me. You see, in AH, we use these handles, and not our real names. "MAW" stand for Marine Air Wing, which is the squad I fly for.

Did you get all that, or should I draw you a diagram?

I don't have anything against you Aron. But don't pretend to be somthing your not. That just insults our intelligence, and aggravates me.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: GRUNHERZ on March 20, 2003, 02:20:37 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw

Did you get all that, or should I draw you a diagram?



Damn! Came this close to spitting out the soup im having for lunch all over my monitor.. :D    Damn you!! ;)
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 20, 2003, 02:21:42 PM
Go ahead, Grun. Chuck the soup. I've got another keyboard I can send you.
Title: Re: No more of an embarrasment than Bush is to many Americans Yeager.
Post by: Tumor on March 20, 2003, 03:11:40 PM
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Originally posted by weazel


Gee...just think, Bill Clinton was ready to move on Iraq several years ago...did he get any support from the republican party or were they too busy obsessing about his cock and a stained dress to bother?


Sorry I'm late gettin to this weaz, but... I have to chime in.  I can confirm that Slick Willy was "never" any more than lip service away from moving on Iraq (not that that should be a suprise).  If you only knew some of the things he sat on you'd ... well you know.  Slicky boy never did anything much more than annoy the military (and I'm very sure he went to bed smiling about that every night for 8yrs.  I bet he even had after sex small talk with Janet about it)
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Modas on March 20, 2003, 03:28:24 PM
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Originally posted by Vermillion
*psssst* MuckMAW

If he's a real engineer, ask him to provide his PE license # and which state he's registered in ;)  Jeezz... even Engineers don't spell THAT bad :p


Actually Vermillion, that isn't necessarily true (about the PE stuff that is).

I'm an enginer, BSME, but not a PE.  I misssed the PE by tow points when I take the test right out of coledge :mad:

The only differance between a PE and and a non PE is you get thos tow letters after your nam.  After that, is just fluff.  Just like all those letter the computer guys put after thier names :D  Dosn't meen noting
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Rude on March 20, 2003, 03:29:30 PM
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Originally posted by AronL
Robert Byrd is an inteligent man.


Perhaps...he is also a racist and a master politician who has stroked the good hard working folks of WV for years and years.

As to your sig, get a new one....if you think the current admin and those of us here who support this war effort do not understand that it's serious, than your a simple putz.
Title: PBS Frontline did an in-depth story on it.
Post by: weazel on March 20, 2003, 03:52:11 PM
This past Tuesday night Tumor.

The details they reported seemed a bit more than lip service.

IIRC they were pretty close to going back in with troops before plans were tabled.

The hatchet job done on Clinton by Starr and the right wing was a disgrace and the country is still dealing with the political fallout.

A lot of Americans are really pissed off about it.....I'm just one of the more vocal ones. ;)

Politics have always been dirty, but the right wing escalated it to levels that are bad for the country.

I doubt the U.S. has been this polarized since the Civil War.

Stay safe over there, hope you get to come home soon.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: funkedup on March 20, 2003, 03:55:25 PM
Nerd note:  PE means a lot in some industries.   Every drawing that comes out of our office has to be stamped by a PE.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: koala on March 20, 2003, 03:56:48 PM
Here's a simple question to all you folks who think our current conflict is setting such a terrible precedent:

How is it ANY different from when we invaded Panama and Haiti?
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Eagler on March 20, 2003, 03:59:32 PM
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Originally posted by koala
Here's a simple question to all you folks who think our current conflict is setting such a terrible precedent:

How is it ANY different from when we invaded Panama and Haiti?


the other two did not affect billions of dollars of french, russian, china and german trade?
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Hangtime on March 20, 2003, 05:36:09 PM
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your a simple putz.


what the hell is a simple putz?

just curious...
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Vermillion on March 20, 2003, 08:30:03 PM
Modas, yes I understand totally. :)

I have a BS Electrical Engineering from WVU in Dec 1991, and a MS in Environmental Engineering from Marshall University in May 1994.  And if you want proof, contact me in person, and I'll happily supply proof of my credentials. (sorry for the spelling, I'm half drunk right now)

Funked's met me in person, and I think he will vouch that I'm not full of toejam... well, at least not totally ;)

I'm taking the PE on April 11.  And if you really want to know, I'll look up my FE license number which I passed about 5 years ago.

But see.. you knew what I meant !! :D  Aron did not.  If he did, he would have responded the way that you did.  Which leads me to believe that he's another posing roadkiller who tells "tall tales" on the BBS.

See where I'm going? :) hehehehe

EDIT: Oh yah, take the the time to study for either test, the FE or the PE, and you won't ever call it "fluff".  I know many degree'd engineers who have taken the test over and over and over.  And they still haven't passed.  While I think its more a matter of the time and effort of studying, its not what I'd call "fluff" :)
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: StSanta on March 21, 2003, 03:14:15 AM
You know, I think I like muckmaw. He uses the same approach as I when deriding people. Belittling them is sooo fun to do, and even funnier to watch :).
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 21, 2003, 05:48:11 AM
Aww damn it. Now I thought I was being a nice guy, Santa.

I guess I'll be at that Anger Management class again tonight.

Shall I save you your usual seat?:D
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: AronL on March 21, 2003, 06:56:11 AM
Rude

bet you are sitting in front of the TV now with popcorn and waching CNN live coverage.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: muckmaw on March 21, 2003, 07:43:27 AM
I bet he is'nt!

Rude's more of a Fox news man, and WE ALL know he prefers Doritos.
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Modas on March 21, 2003, 08:34:32 AM
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Originally posted by Vermillion
Modas, yes I understand totally. :)

I have a BS Electrical Engineering from WVU in Dec 1991, and a MS in Environmental Engineering from Marshall University in May 1994.  And if you want proof, contact me in person, and I'll happily supply proof of my credentials. (sorry for the spelling, I'm half drunk right now)

Funked's met me in person, and I think he will vouch that I'm not full of toejam... well, at least not totally ;)

I'm taking the PE on April 11.  And if you really want to know, I'll look up my FE license number which I passed about 5 years ago.

But see.. you knew what I meant !! :D  Aron did not.  If he did, he would have responded the way that you did.  Which leads me to believe that he's another posing roadkiller who tells "tall tales" on the BBS.

See where I'm going? :) hehehehe

EDIT: Oh yah, take the the time to study for either test, the FE or the PE, and you won't ever call it "fluff".  I know many degree'd engineers who have taken the test over and over and over.  And they still haven't passed.  While I think its more a matter of the time and effort of studying, its not what I'd call "fluff" :)


hehehehe Vermillion, I don't need your credentials :D  I trust you.  You know how to spell.  I've got a BSME from MSOE (hows that for a bunch of letters :D)

And I did study for the PE, cod, the countless hours.... And studying for finals, completing senior design.  Makes me shudder to think about it now.  And to miss by only 2 points.

Do you know if they changed the requirements for the PE test?  I took it in '93 and I thought that the requirments changed after that year.  I thought that after 93, it became a requirement that a person would have to work 5 years under a licensed PE before they were allowed to take the test.  As you are getting ready to take it, is there any truth to that?  Or was it just a nasty rumor
Title: Re: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: blitz on March 21, 2003, 03:00:47 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Today I weep for my country," said West Virginia Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd. "No more is the image of America one of strong, yet benevolent peacekeeper. ... Around the globe, our friends mistrust us, our word is disputed, our intentions are questioned.


"We flaunt our superpower status with arrogance," Byrd said, adding: "After war has ended the United States will have to rebuild much more than the country of Iraq. We will have to rebuild America's image around the globe."




Your absolute right Mr. Bird, it is seen in Europe like you described .

THX

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My take?

GET THE diddly OUT IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YA CRACHETY OLD LIMP DICKED diddly HEAD!!

You weep for your country? diddly you! You've been on the take for 40 diddlyin' years. Yeah, you weep for us, but you'll still vote yourself a raise, and pick up that fat government check.

Tell ya what gramps...don't want to be part of it? Lets see if you;ve got the balls of the brits, and resign! Go work in a diddlyin wal-mart handing out circulars.

We're fighting a diddlyin war here. Shut up until it's over. Then go back to the roadkill partisan politics that REALLY destroying this country.

TODAY, I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!! diddly YOU, BYRD!

GOD, I'm Pissed off!

Somebody get me this diddlys e-mail address!!

MOTHER diddlyER!!!! [/B]



Doesn't help calling people names, try to use your head instead, warlover.


Regards Blitz


America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it'S just plain ridiculous
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Sikboy on March 21, 2003, 03:10:12 PM
"Today I weep for my country"-Byrd

"That's Ok, every two years I weep for my Senate"-Sikboy
Title: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: Tumor on March 21, 2003, 09:01:34 PM
"Every time I read a post by blitz I weep for humanities gene pool"-Tumor
Title: Re: "Today I weep for my country"-Byrd
Post by: rc51 on March 21, 2003, 09:07:02 PM
My take?

GET THE **** OUT IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YA CRACHETY OLD LIMP DICKED **** HEAD!!

You weep for your country? **** you! You've been on the take for 40 ****in' years. Yeah, you weep for us, but you'll still vote yourself a raise, and pick up that fat government check.

Tell ya what gramps...don't want to be part of it? Lets see if you;ve got the balls of the brits, and resign! Go work in a ****in wal-mart handing out circulars.

We're fighting a ****in war here. Shut up until it's over. Then go back to the bull**** partisan politics that REALLY destroying this country.

TODAY, I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!! **** YOU, BYRD!

GOD, I'm Pissed off!

Somebody get me this ****s e-mail address!!

MOTHER ****ER!!!! [/B][/QUOTE]


RIGHT ON!!!!
I AGREE 100% MY BROTHER.
And if the leg humping europeee ons dont undestand ?
**** em It aint there country!!!!
So Blitz go recover from the bellybutton WHOOPIN the USA put on your country 60 years ago and dont worry bout how we do it in the USA