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Title: Spit IX
Post by: AronL on March 20, 2003, 12:13:01 PM

this plane is a beauty, but why does it turn so bad?

Title: Re: Spit IX
Post by: Innominate on March 20, 2003, 12:22:20 PM

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Originally posted by AronL
this plane is a beauty, but why does it turn so bad?

is this supposed to be a trick question?  The spit9 isnt the tightest turning turnfighter, but it can still turn better than anything able to outrun it.

Title: Spit IX
Post by: AronL on March 20, 2003, 12:28:48 PM

when i point my nose at some enemy the plane just flips over and crashes

Im used to counter-strike tho :)

Title: Spit IX
Post by: jonnyb on March 20, 2003, 12:44:59 PM

Assuming you're not fishing...

It sounds like you are stalling the plane.  You can't simply point and shoot like you would in a first person shooter, or some very poorly modelled flight sims.  You have to know the dynamics of flight and the concept of energy in relation to planes.

In the simplest terms, an airplane needs to be travelling at a minimum speed to keep itself in the air.  You go below that speed, and the airplane is no longer flying, but falling.  There are other factors that contribute to an aircraft's performance as well.  You can induce a high speed stall by violently disrupting the airflow over the control surfaces.  The best way to picture this is the flat spin that Goose and Maverick went into when they flew through the jet wash in Top Gun.  They certainly weren't going too slow, but the disruption in airflow caused the engines to flame out and the plane to spin uncontrollably.

You can simulate this in AH.  Fly your plane straight and level and then yank back and left/right on the stick.  Your plane will spin and fall.

There is some really great info on this board, and a lot of websites dedicated to virtual air combat.  Search through here and you'll find what you need.

Oh, and if you were fishing, consider me landed.  Take your trophy picture, remove the hook and place me back into the pond.

:D

Title: Spit IX
Post by: AronL on March 20, 2003, 01:01:03 PM

you are back in the pond jonnyb :D

but thx for the reply tho :)

Title: Spit IX
Post by: vorticon on March 20, 2003, 01:19:44 PM

doesnt turn well because it doesnt need to...anything it cant outrun it outturns and everything utrns well if you dont know how

as well you have to be in range for your bullets to hit and you have to know how the bullets are going to fall...seems tricky but it isnt...to much...if you want a better turning plane try the spit5 or hurri2c

Title: Spit IX
Post by: bockko on March 20, 2003, 02:54:24 PM

zero turns worse than spit.....

Title: Spit IX
Post by: WldThing on March 20, 2003, 03:08:41 PM

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Originally posted by bockko
zero turns worse than spit.....

Since when?

Title: Spit IX
Post by: Wax on March 20, 2003, 03:15:23 PM

yea since when does a zero not out turn a spit?? I think u need to pratice alot more in diff plane before you can say anymore.. lol:D

Title: Spit IX
Post by: bockko on March 20, 2003, 03:25:58 PM

hello gents, this post is a troll :eek:

Title: Spit IX
Post by: wetrat on March 21, 2003, 05:30:40 PM

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Originally posted by bockko
zero turns worse than spit.....

Ummm... no?

Title: Spit IX
Post by: bockko on March 21, 2003, 06:12:29 PM

okokok....hello, mcfly.....

ok, we all know, or should know, that zero outurns spit..also we all know, or should know, that spit ix isn't a crummy turn plane. Did everyone miss the pond thing? AronL has a few trout on the line.

see you guys up! :p

Title: Spit IX
Post by: wetrat on March 23, 2003, 02:14:12 AM

I always was one to take the bait..

Title: Spit IX
Post by: humble on March 25, 2003, 11:15:18 AM

The main reason you have inferior turn preformance in a spitIX is improper pilot diet...since the plane is an english design it's center of gravity was modeled after english pilots..and diets of course. Amazingly AH has been able to model this, I'd suggest typical english "combat rations" prior to flight...lets say fishheads and rice for example and see if this helps...a couple of pints of warm beer might also do the trick.

Title: Spit IX
Post by: bockko on March 25, 2003, 09:11:54 PM

i thought the engilish combat ration was tea and crumpets, served at 4 pm. Or was it roast mutton...oh wait, think that was the scottish ration....oh well.

Title: Re: Spit IX
Post by: MANDOBLE on March 26, 2003, 01:39:16 PM

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Originally posted by AronL
why does it turn so bad?

Do you mean when taxiing?

Title: Spit IX
Post by: Shark88 on April 03, 2003, 03:12:42 PM

can't the hurrican II out turn the spits?

Title: Spit IX
Post by: Soda on April 03, 2003, 03:20:53 PM

Depends how you consider out-turn, Shark.  Stall speed turning, where radius is important, then the Hurri II can out-turn it.  At speed, or where the vertical is more in play, then the Spit's vastly superior climb rate horsepower would likely come into play.  There are some other planes that can out-turn the Spit too, or are very close to call.  N1K, FM2, F4F, Zero (easy)...

The original post though was a troll... AronL was just trying to see if people would respond to a statement that wasn't true.

-Soda
AH Trainer Corps