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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on March 21, 2003, 08:22:17 AM
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Seems to be a pattern, block traffic, draw attention to yourself (though I'm sure they think of it as drawing attention to their cause)...
Does it help or hurt their cause?
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"Bush is bad and the war is bad and we don't like it, so it's OK to break the law." -Every random protestor in Portland interviewed by the media.
amazinhunks, every one of them.
SOB
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I'm just praying for a power outage in Rip's area.... Got enuf ammo Rip?
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Polls are somewhat helpful here. Seems a majority is behind this action now, at least in the US.
So a minority "against" disrupting the everyday affairs of the majority "for" is unlikely to persuade any of the majority over to the minority side.
But that was never the protestors goal anyway.
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Do they ever try to stop traffic in the bad parts of town, or just the business sectors?
It might be more fun to watch if they tried to 'tag' some gang bangers.
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Now THAT would be news worth watching. Maybe even Pay-Per-View.
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Originally posted by Toad
Now THAT would be news worth watching. Maybe even Pay-Per-View.
ROTFLOL...lets see them do that in South East L.A. :D
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I was on Capitol Hill in Seattle when a large mob of 'students' washed down the street yesterday afternoon. I almost ran over a couple who thought if they just wandered in the street everyone would stop. squealing morons. There is a right way and a wrong way to exercise your freedoms. breaking the law and endangering everyone is not the right way.
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Burn some flags, block some roads in rush hour -- fun stuff to talk about at the rave with that dippy little hippie chick but you're not going to change anyone's mind as Toad noted. I wonder how many were too busy on the Playstation to vote in any of the recent elections.
Charon
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it's all fun and games till little johnny starts defecating all over the place.
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Rip, they hurt my cause tremendously-they themselves have no cause, no agenda. I watched footage of motorists being beaten, and frankly it's made me very angry. I worked and lived in Ess Eff for years and, in fact, was involved in local politics there back in the 70s, I was opposed to this military invasion without the blessing and cooperation of the United Nations, I believe when we're in doubt peace is a better option-but- would I be beaten too?
I wonder how many of the motorists who were beaten by these "protestors" were driving the same streets I drove, and have the same political viewpoint I have?
This is anarchy, period. These "protestors" are anarchists who could care less about the war, but simply are using the masses of their numbers as excuses for criminal activity.
When people conduct themselves in such a lawless manner it associates many of us- common, middle class working folks who have legitimate questions about the war- with a criminal element who has used this as an excuse for lawlessness.
Yes, they hurt "my" cause- they drive people away from a legitimate question of war vs. peace with their actions. They are criminals, requiring police enforcement when the police should be guarding against the elevated terrorist threat.
Sorry, no tolorance for these criminals- I hope any arrested are proscicuted to the full measure of the law, but this being San Francisco no doubt all charges against them will be dropped.
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Spot on, Airhead. I can agree with everything you said there.
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Reap what you sow, Airhead. You won't find any Anarchist flocking around conservatives. ;)
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Ya know... there's a flipside to that entire anarchy thing.
It is possible to be an anarchist and be a good person. You know... keep what's yours... leave what's not yours alone... don't hurt anyone... don't lie... etc... the only difference is that you do it because it's the right thing to do and not simply because a government will hold you accountable if you don't behave... you know... the utopian side... :)
Oh... and if they lay in the middle of the street, I think it's okay to drive over their legs with an SUV.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Oh... and if they lay in the middle of the street, I think it's okay to drive over their legs with an SUV.
LOL! I saw a big-ass Lincoln Navigator yesterday with a "No war in Iraq" sign on the back window. :D
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Ripsnort, unfortunately thats not totally true. Whoever murdered that Sikh man in Phoenix under the impression that his turban meant he was an Arab right after 9/11 did our cause no good. But it's true that the organized elements of disruption seem to line up mainly on the left, possibly because those causes seem to get more sympathetic media treatment when behaving this way.
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I think some people have trouble with any authority and do not need much to protest against something they know little about.
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We have had a lot of demonstrations in the UK over the past few days which school kids & students bunking off lessons to make there voice heard. Most have degenerated into complete chaos. Would have been interesting to see how many would have turned up if it had been organised outside of "school time" (Or am I just getting synical in my old age Yep thst must be it :rolleyes: ).
TTFN
snafu
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My God.
- breaking the law
- forcing their will on others
- concerned only with their own agendas.
- destroying others property
What kind of role models do these kids have?
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Saddam Hussein? :)
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^^^
Probably someone just like you.
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Originally posted by blur
My God.
- breaking the law
- forcing their will on others
- concerned only with their own agendas.
- destroying others property
What kind of role models do these kids have?
Role models? Hollywood? How about Barbara Streisand? maybe Ozzie Osborne? Bill Clinton! Now theres a good role model! ;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Seems to be a pattern, block traffic, draw attention to yourself (though I'm sure they think of it as drawing attention to their cause)...
Does it help or hurt their cause?
It is and it is not a complex issue..
in pro-war people's eyes it can look bad, but then again do they either notice "nicely" protesting people?
Blocking streets is something between protesting and a riot.
Riot is the extreme...
When alot of people are rioting, it means something is badly messed up.
So if alot of people goes to block streets, you could say that something is not only wrong.
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I'll stop running down protesters in the street when I can legally sit in your living room if I don't like the color of your tie.
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ya so much for the old Ghandi approach.
I won't be suprised if some of these "peaceniks" get run over by vehicles while they are beating up someone's family.
heard they arrested 1025 of them so far, they need to just keep going and get those criminals off of the streets.
they want to hold signs and talk that's fine, they start damaging property, hurting people, disrupting commerce, they need to be in jail with the rest of their ilk.
give them all tickets to france and be done with em.
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Hell, they could even take to the streets if they just made the effort to obtain a permit with the city and plan a route.
SOB
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Blocking traffic hurts (if only temporarily) local economies and is more apt to incite anger against their cause rather than sympathy. But it sure is an effective way of drawing attention; and the media.
I think the real question is: Why can't these people think up something positive and creative to get their message across?
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How many drove their SUV's to the protest? That would make great news copy!
MiG
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Kanth,
Gandhi united the people, not the goverments.