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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lazs on March 28, 2001, 08:43:00 AM
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BK's switched last night. In this new era of (choke) realistic strat we have decided to switch to whatever country still has dar and fuel. that is the criteria we used last nite and it worked well. cut down on the frustration... met new people etc. We are not adverse to switching every nite if we have at least 4 or so guys up. Hopefully, the logistics of this will not get too tangled as it does require some organization and we are... To say the least, "lacking" in that dept.
I would suggest others try it tho as a way to lowere frustration levels.
lazs
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Got the furball arena and still not happy yet ?
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rats abandoning a sinking ship.. excellent strategy.
I'd like to point out that not all squads switch because of base count. Some pick a country and stick with it until a specified date. They get to meet all the new people without abandoning them when things get tough.
There are also some that stick with the same country all the time. These squads also experience the thick and thin situations with dedication.
There are even squads that will switch to the underdog to help out in times like last night. These are squads that feel they can help despite the odds.
3 of the 4 types of squads I salute.
AKDejaVu
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Great! This is just what we the MA needs, a squad promoting defections when "their" country is losing!
Mox
[This message has been edited by Mox (edited 03-28-2001).]
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I used to think sticking with a country till the bitter end was a noble cuase. Not anymore. My squad still does and we stick through whatever country were with through thick and thin, but I like the way the BK's do it also. Every night I have logged on since becoming a Nit we have been getting pounded by both the Rooks and Bishops who both have more numbers than the Nits. I guess its just human nature for the big bullie to pick on the little guy but it doesn't make for a fun night. Not if your into organizing countries into a base taking machine. On nights like this I either log or just get into a really fast plane and B&Z and run once you've got 5 guys on your six with no help around. Either way I'm all for the way the BK's are handling their situation. Why not switch if your country is getting gangbanged by greater numbers and you don't have a base that has gas or isn't getting vulched by five planes that you can't even get off the ground. Lately I have watched buffs range far and wide and just go around taking out the FH's or the gas at all of our fields. Its a good strategy as you cant hardly kill a buff and they shut down your fields this way. Your players get frustrated and log off, or come up a field with little gas IF the Fh aren't smokin.
This GAME is all about having fun and I cant have fun without having a fair and even shot at the other guy. Five to one odds and two or three bases getting nailed by BOTH you enemy countries is not fun to me. Switch if if this makes it even for your squad OR if your a loner. Whatever it take to have fun.
I think I'll bring this up with my squad as it might help us to have a little more fun also.
LLB OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[This message has been edited by llbm_MOL (edited 03-28-2001).]
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well I for one enjoyed having you BK's on the same side for once!
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I see nothing wrong with switching countries if you're not having fun in the country you're in. That's what I do.
But instead of switching to the country that has dar (which, I admit, sounds very appealing to me), I switch to the country that has more targets. I find it less boring being gangbanged than competing over scraps.
anRky
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llb... exactly.
deja.... who in their right mind would cultivate your "respect"? I certainly laugh at the idea of having a lousy time in order to garner your worthless "respect". Guys that have earned real respect in this GAME were involved... instigated... this new policy of the BK's.
This is a game. It has many aspects that are gimicky and spoil the fun of certain styles. It is by far more fun (for us)to find a country with resources so that we can choose our type of fun.... so that we have some options. We had more fun last nite and more evenly matched fites than we have had for weeks. We refuse to be martyrs like some of the amish twits that have responded so far.
It's all about choice... No radar, no resources and being hit from both sides equals no fun and no choices for us.
We are merely circumventing (to the best of our ability) some of the more ludicrous and unfun features of the GAME. The country we joined seemed happy enough to have us... The one we left never even noticed.
lazs
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The one we left never even noticed.
Had I been on, I would have. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Sorry lazs, but your original post pretty much sums you up entirely.
At the root of all your complaints is one simple idea. You want kills fast and you want them to be easy.
I'm sure there was no lack of targets on either front for the knits last night, but you chose to leave. Why? Because there was nobody to fight.. or because there were too many to fight?
Instead, you go to rook and all fly as a group hanging in hords waiting for solo planes to come in... ah.. now there is fun. Fighting over the few stray enemies that arrive.
Yes.. its all about having fun. And fun for you is having easy kills lined up in front of you with minimal risk to yourself. God forbid you should have to work for anything.
You represent the welfare recipients in AH. You want everything handed to you by everyone else in the arena with no intention of working. If things get too tough, you move to where they are easier.
I don't expect you to feel you need to earn anyone's respect. I don't even expect you to understand the meaning of the word.
AKDejaVu
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You did what it took for you to have more fun...more power to ya. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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deja you pompous twit.... you have no idea what we did last nite even though you should have. For someone doing a 13 tas imitation you sure are selfrightious.
where you get off on telling anyone what they are doing and/or thinking is beyond me. I'm telling you that we had good fairly even fites for a change. The one time we fought your squad you guys came in AS A GROUP at multiple K above everyone and we had to climb up to you to slaughter you. You friggn hypocrite. You are the one who flew for bishop with all the advantages. But ya know what? Who gives a damn what you do... We only care what we are doing and how much fun we are having.
We are making the best of a bad situation. You are adding nothing to the thread. You don't say what you want only that we shouldn't do what is allowed by the GAME...
So.... Some features of the GAME are acceptable to you but others aren't? Are you perhaps claiming that the GAME is not perfect? That it may be gimicky in some way? Spit it out!
lazs
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NT
[This message has been edited by AKSeaWulfe (edited 03-28-2001).]
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Hey Yeager, did you ask Bill Gates if it was OK for you to use his 0s and 1s?
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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?
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Wow lazs.. you forget I was near 53 too. I know just how much you are embelishing.
Yep.. you just keep getting better and better dude.
Our whole squad of.. 4. yep. wow. And its pretty hard not to have an alt advantage when one side won't leave their base. Strange, I don't remember only engaging 4 enemy planes near 53? Hmmmm.
Once again... you need things to be made easy for you. You need things to be made handy for you. You need others to do the work, so you can have fun. Last night was THE prime example.
AKDejaVu
<edit>lying was a harsh word and inaccurate.. it has been removed</edit>
[This message has been edited by AKDejaVu (edited 03-28-2001).]
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deja...4? How many BK's do you think were at that field? Our four were all well below and had to climb to your four. Still... I am glad that I take up so much of your thoughts and time. I suppose I should be flattered even tho you do such a poor job of reading me. Perhaps if you spent a couple extra hours a day? Maybe i could just email you with my agenda?
And... actually, the suggestion to change sides did not come from me anyway. My contribution was "yeah ok, what country?" do you even know who you are claiming that you have no respect for?
We actually had no idea how we could decide on which country to choose until someone remembered that we had a CO. So we made him make one of the first decisions he has ever made for the squad. Otherwise we would all still be stuck at "I don't care, this sucks, I'll take anyone with fuel and dar."
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs:
deja...4? How many BK's do you think were at that field? Our four were all well below and had to climb to your four.
lazs
I seem to remember far more than 4 people down there. Might have been only 4 BKs, but there were a lot of Rooks down there with you. There were only 4 bishops in the area, 4 AKs.
-SW
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Lazs & anyone else...
If you wanna switch, fine, so be it. If you feel its in the best interest of your $30 a month, all the power to you. But if you are going to be on the other side of my guns, how'd about shutting up and not whinning on the BBS? You switched sides, big deal...y'all have fun now, ya hear?
I'm a Knight and sure, we got pasted last night...but it was fast and furious and required some ingenious efforts to try to get out of the hole. If that isnt your idea of fun, I understand. But some of us saw it as a huge challenge to try to hold both Bish and Rook off and managed to hold on longer than I thought we would! And ya know what? Im not whining (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
You must be a real joy to play "Chutes and Ladders" with! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
2 cents...cya folks on-line later!
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Paul J. Busiere
Aces High Arena handle: BD5Pilot
http://bd5.checksix.net (http://bd5.checksix.net)
BD-5 "T" (TurboProp) 90% complete, first flight in 2001 (We hope!)
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Yeah for past few days we been pretty much banged in every... ahhh that is fun to be a Knight (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I hope to enjoy being a knight for a long-long time...
As I always say among all only Knight has the most weird move - nothing like the predictable rocks and bish (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Best regards
Dmitry aka vfGhosty
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I'm with SOB- you pay to have fun, do it how you will within the rules of the game. I have said before and say again, if your country is down to a few fields and all are being vultched by parties who refuse to drop hangars (ends the respawning targets dontcha know?) you have only a few options: re-up so the endless train of vultchers can take turns slapping you down; wait in the tower and hope the other two sides really want a reset and aren't interested in just holding a weak team to nothing, or; switch to side that gives you a chance to play. It is entirely wrong IMNSHO that anyone should be forced to sit in the tower or be vultch bait.
Understand I refer specifically to the extreme times when teams seem reluctant to effect a reset, only maintaining life support status for easy targets. This is the one form of gameplay I truly detest.
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What I find funny is hearing over hte all channel chat is should we kill that last FH or not? Funny but they always seem to kill the VH first and let the FH live. TO me this isn't gaming but a viral way of showing lack of skills. I remember all teh pilots who shot me down, but I remember the ones that show me down more then once. Funniest thing is being shot down by a guy oin the deck with bombs under his wings. Or using a bomb to kill me. I have vulched before only because our goon or m3 was inbound. I do not camp over a runway for easy kills, nor do I care if someone wants to switch countries, granted we got raped last night but I still ended up with quite a few kills. I think it is fun to watch them try and get you and the aa comes back to life (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) The one time I thank the 1 hit wonder AA
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
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The way the strat system works in this game it is terribly easy to neutralize the defense in an area, whether this means killing a couple FHs, blinding the enemy by taking out radar or whatever. This game would really be a lot better if it was both much easier to capture enemy fields and much harder to neutralize them. If this system of easy neutralization of defenses is so wonderful, why don't we just hope that HTC takes it a step further? Perhaps there can be a main FH somewhere on the map and once a bomb hits it, that country can't fly any more fighter sorties for the entire tour. That would certainly make strat a vital element in the game.
Yesterday we switched countries because we disliked the choice of taking off into a massive vulchfest or flying around for 45 minutes without seeing any enemies. Who was winning and losing had absolutely nothing to do with it. It is just as boring to circle empty enemy fields all night while you wait for the C47s to arrive, so "winning" has little attraction to me. We just switched to Rooks in the hope that we could find a spot on the map with a good number of both red and green dots showing on radar. Last night it worked, so we will probably do it more often.
Hooligan
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I have to say the MAW has talked about switching , but , can't leave the knights out to hang , wish others enjoyed more even odds ,but then again , that might not be fun for some .
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Sturm the VH is killed first so that you're not knee deep in Osties as soon as the last FH goes down ..
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hooligan.. I think we should go bishop (the little red dildo looking ones) tonite since they had like 2/1 numbers on everyone and we would have even more choice.
Winning? who gives a toejam about winning other than killing the other guy? And.. gotta ask... what is "chutes and ladders"?
lazs