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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dowding on March 21, 2003, 06:19:29 PM
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... is going to have a ball in northern Iraq. Those lucky, lucky Kurds!
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Originally posted by Dowding
... is going to have a ball in northern Iraq. Those lucky, lucky Kurds!
...don't hold your breath.
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Last I heard is that the Turks wanted to trade airspace permission for permission to move into N. Iraq, and the US said no deal and diverted aircraft around Turkey. Officials in Washington have also warned Turkey that they may face "friendly fire" from US forces if they cross the line. So don't get your panties all bunched up just yet Dowding. :)
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there are 50k to 90k armed kurds in N. Iraq, the turks better smile if they come in.
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The Kurds don't have tanks, helicoptors or aircraft. The Kurdish fighter's families are also in the firing line.
I'd say Turkey would have no problem at all.
By all accounts, alarm bells are ringing in the Pentagon over this. It will be interesting to say the least.
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ah well, if that happens, then we just arm the Greeks
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Originally posted by Rasker
ah well, if that happens, then we just arm the Greeks
lol...
Dowdings right though, this could be a problem with Turkey.
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The BBC reports they are already crossing into Iraq
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turkey had better check with france before they invade iraq, france might veto the move
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hmm, well, if we threaten to support and arm an independent Kurdistan.....
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I trust Dubya to understand "enemy of my enemy" stuff. But "enemy of the enemy of my enemy" and further could prove to be too much for him to grasp.
BBC talks now about a 1500-strong commando force.
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Just cant wait for bad stuff to happen can you. Anything bad happens to anything the US does it must be great for you.
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It won't happen..but what an almost big screwup scenario...
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When i don't want to see bad things happen, I close my eyes and they go away. It works great, try it.
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Well, Nostradumus...I mean Dowding called it.
1000 Turks crossed into Northern Iraq...according to Fox.
This is some bad stuff here, boys.
Excuse me, but who the hell invited the Turks? Last time I checked, they were against this war to begin with. Now what? They see it's going well, and they want a piece of the action?
They have no right to move into Northern Iraq. If they don't withdraw, we need to deal with them.
These sandy little butt holes are going to cause more problems than they are worth.
This is why they did not want to let us launch a Norther Front attack from Turkey. So they could do it themselves, and snatch up Iraqi Real Estate.
With Friends like this....we would not need France.
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muckmaw, Dubya has set a FFA game, so now those teamkiller d00ds have joined to spoil the party. Lets hope he has some kind of .ban macro handy.
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Well, Nostradumus...I mean Dowding called it.
1000 Turks crossed into Northern Iraq...according to Fox.
This is some bad stuff here, boys.
Excuse me, but who the hell invited the Turks? Last time I checked, they were against this war to begin with. Now what? They see it's going well, and they want a piece of the action?
They have no right to move into Northern Iraq. If they don't withdraw, we need to deal with them.
These sandy little butt holes are going to cause more problems than they are worth.
This is why they did not want to let us launch a Norther Front attack from Turkey. So they could do it themselves, and snatch up Iraqi Real Estate.
With Friends like this....we would not need France.
I believe the Turks are only moving 5 miles into Iraqi territory to control the influx of refugees.
Hopefully it's not more than that, or else things could get interesting real quick.
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Ya know, eventually M1A1's and numerous coalition aircraft will be in and over Northern Iraq.
I think the Turks will be convinced they don't need to be there too.
:D
Don't think their stock is real high in Foggy Bottom right now.
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Well, Nostradumus...I mean Dowding called it.
1000 Turks crossed into Northern Iraq...according to Fox.
This is some bad stuff here, boys.
Excuse me, but who the hell invited the Turks? Last time I checked, they were against this war to begin with. Now what? They see it's going well, and they want a piece of the action?
They have no right to move into Northern Iraq. If they don't withdraw, we need to deal with them.
These sandy little butt holes are going to cause more problems than they are worth.
This is why they did not want to let us launch a Norther Front attack from Turkey. So they could do it themselves, and snatch up Iraqi Real Estate.
With Friends like this....we would not need France.
If you read various books on Nostradumus at the bookstore, they always contradict one another. And TV Nostradumus is different as well.
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Nostradumus predicted that people would spend hundreds of years trying to figure out his senseless ramblings.
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Cheer up, according to the Book of Revelations, things dont get serious until the King of the East shows with an army of two hundred million
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hell greece is probly attacking them now on general principals.
they really hate turks all out of any reason, has to be seen to be believed.
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they really hate turks all out of any reason, has to be seen to be believed.
Darius.. Xerxes.. Athens, Sparta.. 5th century B.C. to now.. longest running grudgematch in history.
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Well, Nostradumus...I mean Dowding called it.
1000 Turks crossed into Northern Iraq...according to Fox.
This is some bad stuff here, boys.
Excuse me, but who the hell invited the Turks? Last time I checked, they were against this war to begin with. Now what? They see it's going well, and they want a piece of the action?
They have no right to move into Northern Iraq. If they don't withdraw, we need to deal with them.
These sandy little butt holes are going to cause more problems than they are worth.
This is why they did not want to let us launch a Norther Front attack from Turkey. So they could do it themselves, and snatch up Iraqi Real Estate.
With Friends like this....we would not need France.
Yup can't imagine where Turkey got the idea that Iraq was up for grabs and you could just invade without provocation from...
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Turkey has been landgrabbing and invading aggressor throughout its history. That, and it has major human rights violations..
I wonder how they got in NATO in the first place.
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Originally posted by takeda
When i don't want to see bad things happen, I close my eyes and they go away. It works great, try it.
And finally the appeasement eurostudmuffins admit it.....
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Originally posted by Toad
Ya know, eventually M1A1's and numerous coalition aircraft will be in and over Northern Iraq.
M1A2's. They make the M1A1 look like a frickin iraqi tank.
A couple of points,
First off US special forces ARE working with the kurds, so if turkey tries anything with the kurds, they're doing it to us. Also, the 101st airborne is in the theater, currently not commited to anything, so if turkey doesnt wise-up, they'll have to deal with more than whatever we can drive past baghdad.
on a side note,
What the hell is wrong with the turks?
First they say we can attack from there, then they tell us we can't. Then they tell us they'll let us use thier airspace, then deny us. Now they're going to join in thier own attack?????
ANY country trying to grab iraqi land should be asked politely to leave, and failing that, have thier troops in iraq used as test subjects for the MOAB.
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Word is coalition Special Ops were dropped 'between' the Turks and the Kurds... hopefully its some Aussie SAS, they still have a bone to pick with the Turks ;)
Incidentally, dunno if it was a slip up, but in an Aussie media debrief a high ranking Aussie referred to the special forces in Iraq as 'ANZAC'. I wonder if our boys are over there. The NZ Govt kept it very quiet when our SAS were in Afghanistan so I wouldn't be suprised.
ANZACs vs the Turks all over again ;)
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I know it would be nice to attack the Turks as well, but they are NATO allies and we do have personnel at Incerlik. We need them to a huge extent, being the only Western Muslim state we can more or less trust.
I wouldn't be surprised if they get paid off, eventually, using a presence in Northern Iraq as a bargaining chip.
But that's in the future. Right now, there are now 10,000 troops on the Turkey Iraq border waiting to go in. The 1500 already there are the vanguard for a much, much larger force.
Get ready Kurdish people! You're in for another f***ing!
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The problems are not the turkish soldiers.
There are two large kurdish clans in North-Iraq - one led by Talabani and the other led by Barsani.
Both had made arrangements - no not to work together for an independent Kurdistan, but with the neighbors Iran and Turkey to get support in their fight against the other rivals.
Talabani has been in Ankara and Barsani contact to Teheran.
We will see soon the civil war of the kurds in north-iraq - killing each other.
Like they did always in their history.