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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Karnak on March 22, 2003, 02:06:51 AM
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As you all know I was against this war. I still think it was the wrong decision.
That is all water under the bridge now.
Now that the decision has been made, lets go in quickly and get all of the bastiges. Lets bring our boys and girls home to the USA safe and sound. Lets do this thoroughly so we needn't do it again and as safetly as possible so that our casualties are as light as possible.
Lets do it right and with strong resolve.
Go get 'em, boys!
USA UK
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Amen
I don't think they should have gone in without UN or NATO approval but they did it and we can only hope for the best outcome.
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Screw the UN. They simply work too slow and take forever to accomplish anything while very real people die. I just don trust them to be very useful in any reasonable time frame, they just let our civil war go on for 5 years without any decisive action.
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US, UK and.......................... ..................
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mature reply GRUNHERZ
how old are you? 3?
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Yeah, don't forget the 2000+ Australians in this thing.
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(that kinda thing pisses me off too Spook, so I'll say it for you...)
.... and Australians.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Screw the UN. They simply work too slow and take forever to accomplish anything while very real people die. I just don trust them to be very useful in any reasonable time frame, they just let our civil war go on for 5 years without any decisive action.
Which part of that do you disagree with AronL? Feel free to hgave your mommy drive you to the library and read up on what the Un did, well did not do, in the Yugoslav civil war...
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"Screw UN" is is a rather childish remark in my book. Perhaps your parents told you otherwise.
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The UN has by its decade of inaction amply demonstated that it is a childish organization, it deserves no respect...
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We knoiw you're there and appreciate your support.
Lock up the beer, diggers inbound!1
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Originally posted by funkedup
Amen
I don't think they should have gone in without UN or NATO approval but they did it and we can only hope for the best outcome.
Yeah, I agree... we should let the UN approve all of our national security issues before we act on anything, because the UN has a stellar record of great world leadership.
I wish the UN would just take over the USA and run our country....we would all be better off.
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Nuke, I'd agree if the UN could get the trains to run on time.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Nuke, I'd agree if the UN could get the trains to run on time.
Airhead :)
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Actually I was wondering yesterday what the success of our operations in Iraq means for the UN. After 12 years of ineffective sanctions and inspections in Iraq, the totally botched job of the UN in Yugoslavia and the utter failure of the UN to prevent Korea from developing nuclear weapons just what will the UN's role be in the future?
Like it or not if the war in Iraq ends quickly with a minimal ammount of casualties, a less repressive Government is established and Iraq begins to prosper it would indicate that the USA led coalition has succeeded where the UN had failed.
Would that change anyone's mind?
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No.
It would confirm the opinion in their minds that the US is a bunch of Evil Bastiges and must be stopped before more nations are freed.
:D
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The UN's affiliate organisations do a lot of work that is not very well recognised. Check out their website; it's worth a look.
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Originally posted by Dowding
The UN's affiliate organisations do a lot of work that is not very well recognised. Check out their website; it's worth a look.
With US money. Personaly I think we could do a better job of it....
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Dowding, the UN does many good things, no question, and needs to be continued, but I'm questioning if it's wise to depend on the UN in matters of national security.
Part of the reason Britain lost ships to Argentinian Exorcet missiles during the Falklands War was that Britain had assumed an ASW role in a NATO capacity and had little anti aircraft defenses in its fleet.
In therory the UN as a chief arbitrator of disputes is a great idea, but in reality the UN has done very little to prevent wars, coups or revolutions.
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How much US money? I seem to have a figure in my head of 22%. Other nations bring other things - such as peace keeping troops.
Part of the reason Britain lost ships to Argentinian Exorcet missiles during the Falklands War was that Britain had assumed an ASW role in a NATO capacity and had little anti aircraft defenses in its fleet.
Then mutual defence organisations don't really work either. :)Unilaterilism is the way to proceed?
... but in reality the UN has done very little to prevent wars, coups or revolutions.
Was it really ever meant to do that? A coup or revolution is an internal event; if people want to murder and kill each other - they will, no matter what the outside world says. Peacekeepers can only keep peace, where there is peace to start with. In Bosnia, for instance, there was no peace and it was an impossible mission.
The UN is not some faceless corporation. When people talk about the failure of the UN, they are really talking about the failure of the constituent nations.
Failure to prevent war, to diffuse tension, is a failure by the SC to exert the pressure needed to achieve a peaceable solution. The buck stops there, in my opinion.
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Sorry Spook. AU
Thanks Australians. May your come home safe and sound as well.