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Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Dowding on March 22, 2003, 01:14:05 PM
One got away, injured. I was watching a report by these guys just this morning.

ITV crew missing in Iraq (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2875969.stm)
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Toad on March 22, 2003, 01:41:28 PM
Are these the ones that were on their own and not in a military "pool"?
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Dowding on March 22, 2003, 01:43:30 PM
I don't know.
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Pongo on March 22, 2003, 02:23:37 PM
I think you should look up ambushed in the dictionary.
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Vermillion on March 22, 2003, 03:37:14 PM
News reports state that they were out on their own, in two vehicles.
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: davidpt40 on March 22, 2003, 03:54:17 PM
They said the Iraqis pretended to surrender to them then shot their cars full of holes.  They wanted their story, now they got it.
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Lizard3 on March 22, 2003, 03:58:46 PM
A recent radio blurb said a reporter had been car bombed in northern Iraq. A witness said another car pulled up right next to him, stopped, then Poof both were gone.
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Batz on March 22, 2003, 04:20:53 PM
Its true an australian Reporter was carbombed in N. Iraq. Check Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/videoJump.jhtml?videoHeadline=Journalist+Killed+In+Car+Bombing&linkURL

ot but good a place as any..........

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Four U.S. Soldiers Reported Killed in Central Iraq
Sat March 22, 2003 04:27 PM ET
LONDON (Reuters) - Four U.S. soldiers were killed on Saturday in central Iraq, according to a reporter from Britain's Sky TV who was traveling with them.
Journalist Colin Brazier said the reconnaissance scouts were ambushed while driving Humvee jeeps at the head of a column.

"Rocket-propelled grenades were fired, one at each Humvee, (they) killed both sets of occupants," he said in a brief live report on TV.

"There was a position we were heading to for refueling at about the same time -- it was clearly a coordinated attack...that came under mortar fire," he added.

"The RPG position has been cleared already...In fact, there was the extraordinary sight of local people actually pointing out some of those positions that were being fired from," Brazier said, speaking rapidly by satellite phone before he had to cut off.
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Dowding on March 22, 2003, 04:37:40 PM
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I think you should look up ambushed in the dictionary.


Because the precise use of language is very important right now. I'm sure it's uppermost in their families' minds.
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: NUKE on March 22, 2003, 04:41:19 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
Because the precise use of language is very important right now. I'm sure it's uppermost in their families' minds.


just as important to the families as you reporting it to this bbs Dowding.
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Hangtime on March 22, 2003, 04:47:12 PM
dowding.. i'm really sorry to hear about that.

i hope the bastards that did it get theirs soon.

my condolences to the brit press folks, and the familes of these guys.. damn shame.

Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Dowding on March 22, 2003, 04:49:06 PM
That's right. The correct or incorrect use of the word 'ambush' is hugely important to the event. I can't stress that enough.

am·bush n.

1) The act of lying in wait to attack by surprise.
2 ) A sudden attack made from a concealed position.
3) Those hiding in order to attack by surprise.
4) The hiding place used for this.
5) A hidden peril or trap.

I'd 3 and 5 pretty much describe the situation. I'm sure the TV crew were a bit surprised by the trap that was sprung.

shreck me. Why am I even arguing this point...
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Dowding on March 22, 2003, 04:51:21 PM
Reading that report Batz posted, it seems to me this war is not the walk over we thought it would be. There are some very determined Iraqis out there. I'm glad they are taking a cautious approach and hope casualties will be light. One US/UK/Ozzie soldier killed is one too many.
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Hangtime on March 22, 2003, 05:03:24 PM
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One US/UK/Ozzie soldier killed is one too many.


more common ground... every single coalition casualty is painful. it need not have gone down like this... and it remains the root of my disgust with chirac and france.

here's to hoping it's over soon.

cheers!
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Post by: SC-Sp00k on March 22, 2003, 06:05:17 PM
Im not anti-War, but I find it hard to have sympathy with a news crew thats working outside the borders of available military protection in a Combat zone.

Either they were the biggest idiots north of Basra or their employer is.  

What did they expect the Iraqi's to do. Greet them with open arms? Surrender scam or not. Its hardly suprising that the soldiers, militia or occupied civilian forces cut down the nosy westerners at the first given opportunity.

After Tommy Franks interview yesterday an ITV guest was saying how disappointed he was with the lack of information. During the briefing, some of the media were whining about the briefing being 3 days late and the lack of information.

These guys obviously think that modern warfare is all about television and the same intrusive behaviour and blatant disregard they often show on the street gives them the same mistaken rights on the field of combat.

Dumb dumb dumb. Sounds like they were trying to circumnavigate the given rule book over there and get the scoop on the military when they suddenly found out the enemy isnt playing by the same nice rules as the coalition.

Sounds tough to say it, but it serves them right.
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Ghosth on March 22, 2003, 06:52:14 PM
I think the next cruise missle we launch should be aimed at the Eiffel tower.

Its time to scrap nato, obviously most members do not remember why we built it.

Kick the UN out of the US while your at it.
Its as useless as the Leage of nations.

Cut off all aid except for those countrys who are giving complete support. And no Turkey does NOT qualify.

Time for the US to show the world that we reward our friends & kick our enemy's in the you know where.
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: SC-Sp00k on March 22, 2003, 08:55:36 PM
You Beauty ! What are us Aussies going to get?

No, we dont want Cher, Michael Jackson or any more of your Basketballers.

Something nice perhaps...

ummm.... Meg Ryan perhaps?
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: Hangtime on March 22, 2003, 09:03:14 PM
deal.
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: -tronski- on March 22, 2003, 10:04:29 PM
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Originally posted by SC-Sp00k
You Beauty ! What are us Aussies going to get?

No, we dont want Cher, Michael Jackson or any more of your Basketballers.

Something nice perhaps...

ummm.... Meg Ryan perhaps?


ugh, not after Russell Crowe had her....

 Tronsky
Title: 4 British Reporters ambushed - 3 missing...
Post by: -dead- on March 23, 2003, 12:47:31 PM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
dowding.. i'm really sorry to hear about that.

i hope the bastards that did it get theirs soon.

You sure about that Hang?

"Cameraman Daniel Demoustier, who escaped with injuries, said it was "friendly fire" which attacked them and killed about a dozen Iraqi soldiers."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2877089.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2877089.stm)