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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: blitz on March 24, 2003, 12:51:35 AM
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I apologize to you guys for using the Headline ' American Pow scared to Death'.
That wasn't fair :(
I don't want to show disrespect for those poor guys and all the others who about to die in the future.
I am a friendly guy and came here 3 years ago,to have fun in an international community and not to talk politics.
I played AH from the very beta days and noone ever saw me squeaking on ch 1 or on this BBs about other players.
I was always givin a to all those who got me.
Never looked for an excuse of my own dumb flyin.
I had lots of fun and felt like there are many friends out there.
When this discussion started about 4 weeks ago i felt the hate for all those who didn't support your government and its war politics right from the beginning.
Most of the people who had a different opinion were defamed as hippies, communists , ignorant, treehuggers, whatever more.
Every second post against them was namecalling.
People were threatened, foreign countries were threatened and spewed upon every day.
The seed of hate from Mr. Bush ' Who not with us is against us' has grown.
I see this war as an violent act against international law,yes, as an aggresson against a sovereign country, but the soldiers who are ordered to go there from their president are not the enemy.
Anyway, i feel sorry if it looked like i felt happy about american people had been captured :(
I'm not.
It's the ugly face of war we see now and a hitech propaganda war goin along with the war can't deceive me.
Regards Blitz
I'm not anti- american, i'm anti Bush . All those Susan Sarandons, Ben Afflecks, Dustin Hoffmanns, former Vietnam soldiers against the war and those remaining 25% are America too.
to them
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What an ignorant tree-hugging hippie communist. :p
SOB
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I hate to get personal, but I imagine pretty much everyone on this board would like to plant a foot in your ass, especially now, if not before. I'm all for voicing opinions and such, but your lunatic ravings have pissed off me and many others. Anti-war fine, pro-war, fine. But the crap you donate to this board is absurd. It's all fine and dandy your country chose to stay out of this conflict, but have some respect for those of us who truly respect and appreciate what our soldiers do. Imagine if they were your countrymen fighting in what you believed to be a just cause. I seriously doubt you would read any of us lending bull**** cheerful opinions on this matter. Sure, you say you don't care what others think, but following that line of reasoning, why would you even bother to post? Regardless of any language barrier there may be, you should know better. At least to me, APOLOGY NOT ACCEPTED.
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Blitz u are disgusting and the majority of us here..amercian and not,,think you are also. You spew half truths and outrigth lies. Your apology is not excepted .
You show your true colors. You are anti -american. Say what you want, to say u are just anti-Bush. He is our President. We elected him..we support him. We agree with him. The UN is a hunk of feces like you who will not do anything unless it means taking there powers away.
We gave you a chance..Now you will go down with it. We willnot let IRAQ spread WMDs..We will not let them support terrorists. There will not be anymore 25k checks gievn to the suicide bomers.(PLO). You support Saddam. You are our enemy also.
Like the Stinkn human feces from Germany and japan..we will kill you till you quit. We will sacrifce..You think we are fat and lazy..We ALONG with 40+ countries will kill our enemy and disarm them. With or with out you.
Leave these BB's....
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
Blitz u are disgusting and the majority of us here..amercian and not,,think you are also. You spew half truths and outrigth lies. Your apology is not excepted .
You show your true colors. You are anti -american. Say what you want, to say u are just anti-Bush. He is our President. We elected him..we support him. We agree with him. The UN is a hunk of feces like you who will not do anything unless it means taking there powers away.
We gave you a chance..Now you will go down with it. We willnot let IRAQ spread WMDs..We will not let them support terrorists. There will not be anymore 25k checks gievn to the suicide bomers.(PLO). You support Saddam. You are our enemy also.
Like the Stinkn human feces from Germany and japan governements..Iraq is now the same.The GOV has no respect for human life....we will kill you till you quit. We will sacrifce..You think we are fat and lazy..We ALONG with 40+ countries will kill our enemy and disarm them. With or with out you.. Spew as you do.
Leave these BB's....
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By the vicious replies, you are proving his point.
Blitz, we did not start this war, saddam did. Maybe you do not consider Kuwait a sovereign nation, but it is. He invaded, he raped, he tortured.I guess this is not a crime to you. Then he defied to leave. He instead waged more war. When he lost he set 700 of kuwait's oil wells on fire and dumped 800 million gallons of oil into the persian gulf. When we liberated Kuwait, he signed an agreement, one he has defied yet again.
One day U.N. inspectors made a suprise visit to a military installation. They would not let them in. The U.N. people insisted, so they let them climb a water tower to look around but would not let them look anywhere else. One inspector from the top of the tower noticed trucks exiting the rear of the compound. They jumped in their vehicles and gave chase. The trucks would not pull over, but the inspector managed to get some pictures.
In the pictures it was clear to see that on the trucks there were tanks used to enrich uranium.
Listen, the countries around saddam are scared to death of him. They know what he is capable of, and if they didn't want him overthrown, we wouldn't be there. If we were to take our troops and leave, they would be at saddam's mercy. And ask the people of Kuwait and they'll tell you, he has no mercy.
This isn't a war against a sovereign country, it's a war against a criminal.
Listen, we have sleeper cells here that have proven they will kill thousands if given the means to do so. I think if saddam has a chance to give them the means to do so, he will. I'm sorry if you disagree with with our president's decision, but I agree with him, saddam must go.
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Blitz u are disgusting and the majority of us here..amercian and not,,think you are also. You spew half truths and outrigth lies. Your apology is not excepted .
I wouldn't try to speak for all of us, if I were you.
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Originally posted by SOB
What an ignorant tree-hugging hippie communist.
SOB
Ditto
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"I believe it is peace for our time....Go home and get a nice quiet sHeep"
:D
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Originally posted by Dowding
I wouldn't try to speak for all of us, if I were you.
He said the majority.
You seem fairly educated, go back to that and recall what it means.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
"I believe it is peace for our time....Go home and get a nice quiet sHeep"
:D
Perfect example of why my sig is what it is.
Don't be one.
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Originally posted by Dowding
I wouldn't try to speak for all of us, if I were you.
So you actually support the crap he has been spewing?
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Originally posted by Lazerus1
Perfect example of why my sig is what it is.
Don't be one.
Ahhh, a sheep? I don't wanna be one, I wanna do one.
peace
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I'm sorry, but exactly how does that affect what I said? He claimed to be speaking for the majority - I'd just like to know who gave him that particular priviledge.
Grunherz - some of it I agree with, some of it I don't.
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Apologize
I apologize to you guys for using the Headline ' American Pow scared to Death'.
That wasn't fair
I don't want to show disrespect for those poor guys and all the others who about to die in the future.
I am one who can forgive when someone asks for it. But remember, when you apologize and folks accept, its not
ok to apologize again if you continue with more spewing and
insults and bashing.
Other words, if you mean it dont do it anymore.
Its simple to see how sincere you are by your future actions.
Its ok to be against the war. It gives me a bad feeling everytime its on TV. I dont like it either.
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Originally posted by X2Lee
Apologize
I apologize to you guys for using the Headline ' American Pow scared to Death'.
That wasn't fair
I don't want to show disrespect for those poor guys and all the others who about to die in the future.
I am one who can forgive when someone asks for it. But remember, when you apologize and folks accept, its not
ok to apologize again if you continue with more spewing and
insults and bashing.
Other words, if you mean it dont do it anymore.
Its simple to see how sincere you are by your future actions.
Its ok to be against the war. It gives me a bad feeling everytime its on TV. I dont like it either.
Just 1 question, no answer needed.
I was called names many, many times myself right from the beginning of this discussion - did i call other people names?
My country was spewed upon several times in a very ugly, hateful way- not only it's government, the whole country- did i the same or did i spoke about your government?
And where was skuzzy when that happened ( no offend to skuzzy meant), is this freedom of speech?
Did i insulted single people like i have been or did i distinguish between the people of America and its government?
This discussion has gone south long time ago and that was not my fault.
Nevertheless, that is no excuse for the last headline, i stand by my apology.
Regards Blitz
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A appoligize is nice, why bash him for that ?
cant belvie you guys, youre really loosing it.
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Blitz, everyone makes mistakes - especially when tensions are high as a result of crisis.
Ill be happy to strike a deal with you. If you remove "Amerrika is threated in way no Iraq by plain rediculous" Ill wipe your record clean off all atrocities committed per the Office of Anti-American Forum Cleansing Act of 2003.
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blitz
B-I-O-Y-A
figure it out :)
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LOL.
Anyone hear voices from their long ago past in this thread?
"You started it!"
"Did NOT!"
"Did SO!"
"Did NOT!"
"Did SO!"
"Did NOT!"
"Did SO!"
"Did NOT!"
"Did SO!"
"Did NOT!"
"Did SO!"
"Did NOT!"
"Did SO!"
"Did NOT!"
Play nice now!
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toad and eagler you wont get anywhere if ya behavie like that.
grow up and think, the guy actuaylly stood up and ask for a apollogy in this forum. that is hard to do also
well you dont have to give him that. but you sure dont have to do it worse.
first im glad you just are sofa sitters and not anything else :D
were all big mouthes all of us when siting in our sofas and yelling at others. JA !!! :D
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IMO:
Blitz has more than "crossed the line" with respect to insulting individuals and the US.
In this respect, he is NO DIFFERENT from several other posters from various countries, the US and other European nations included..
To see them all "Did not - did so" -ing is cute but I don't actually believe either side is truly serious about their various apologies.
Just seems like a bit of pro-forma CYA.
IMO.
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Originally posted by Eagler
blitz
B-I-O-Y-A
figure it out :)
Yea, My Dad used to use this phrase every time that lady next door would come over.
squeak
In
Our
Yard
Again
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STFU
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wrong site posted sorry
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put blitz on ignore and never look back.
He at one point came out and said communism was good, lol.
He has nothing useful to say..
Hell he believes we are killing innocent Iraqi civilians in droves(prolly on purpose).
He believes all the news media is corrupt and not showing the "Facts" and that they would not show US atrocities.
LOL We all know the second a US reporter got wind of a US atrocity they would fall all over themselves to report it.
Blitz is a waste of time and air, just ignore him, if you want a good counter view point that makes sense most of the time, we have Dowding!
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Originally posted by air_guard
A appoligize is nice, why bash him for that ?
cant belvie you guys, youre really loosing it.
If someone takes a **** in your mouth and then apologizes, does it not still leave a bad taste?
F.
edit - BTW i hate this ****ing filter.
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Originally posted by air_guard
A appoligize is nice, why bash him for that ?
cant belvie you guys, youre really loosing it.
my words
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If those are your words, I suggest 'Hooked on Phonics."
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Originally posted by blitz
Just 1 question, no answer needed.
I was called names many, many times myself right from the beginning of this discussion - did i call other people names?
My country was spewed upon several times in a very ugly, hateful way- not only it's government, the whole country- did i the same or did i spoke about your government?
And where was skuzzy when that happened ( no offend to skuzzy meant), is this freedom of speech?
Did i insulted single people like i have been or did i distinguish between the people of America and its government?
This discussion has gone south long time ago and that was not my fault.
Nevertheless, that is no excuse for the last headline, i stand by my apology.
Regards Blitz
Blitz,
It isn't about freedom of expression here. It would be nice but this is a privately owned BBS to be moderated by its ownership as they see fit. This BBS is here to support the business, that of their flight sim. The customers determine the policies. HTC is interested in mostly one thing and one thing only: Keeping the majority of his customers happy (as would any good business). We are in a sensitive, emotionally explosive time where numbers might even quit subscriptions if pissed off enough. Do we have to walk on egg shells when posting a dissenting opinion? You bet. This isn't about a fair and level playing field. (oops gotta go to work.) Don't take it so personal and enjoy the sim.
~S~!
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Apology accepted only if you go away and don't come back. *******.
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Sorry, I'm a weak feeble minded propagandized american that can't formulate my own opinion without help from the american government.
Atleast that's what Blitz has been re-iterating since day one.
If he wants his apology to be taken seriously, he's gotta do a lot more than this.
Easy for you to say "grow up and think" to us when we don't accept his apology, when he's been acting like an infant since day one.
This apology is hollow, that's why very few people will accept it.
-SW
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Originally posted by Furious
If someone takes a **** in your mouth and then apologizes, does it not still leave a bad taste?
F.
edit - BTW i hate this ****ing filter.
ofcourse it will make a bad taste ,
but anyway a appology is alright in my point of view.
you surely have not a clue about humain behaviour do you ?
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would have been funny how long you "experts" would have last in a job with mentaly retarted people.
Thtat was my job until i decided to reeducate myselve and go futhter in life.
I am kinda regreting it now since there is so manyof ya that need help :
:confused:
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Originally posted by air_guard
would have been funny how long you "experts" would have last in a job with mentaly retarted people.
Thtat was my job until i decided to reeducate myselve and go futhter in life.
I am kinda regreting it now since there is so manyof ya that need help :
:confused:
Air Guard,
You jump into an apology thread and then insult.....wow, irony is so ironic.
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Life is too short to hold a grudge....
Like most of us here I dont agree with you but I can forgive and forget.
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Sorry, I'm a weak feeble minded propagandized american that can't formulate my own opinion without help from the american government.
Atleast that's what Blitz has been re-iterating since day one.
If he wants his apology to be taken seriously, he's gotta do a lot more than this.
Easy for you to say "grow up and think" to us when we don't accept his apology, when he's been acting like an infant since day one.
This apology is hollow, that's why very few people will accept it.
Bingo SW.
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what would r. lee say?
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
If he wants his apology to be taken seriously, he's gotta do a lot more than this.
-SW
Wulfie, what if he showed up on your doorstep with a dozen red roses, a box of candy and a tearful apology? Would you accept it then? Now get over there and give that commie a big cyber hug SW. :)
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cobra you dont have a clue about what im talking about do you ?
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Of course I do, why would you make that assumption.....because I noted that after you got frustrated because you couldn't convince everyone to the righteousness of your posts, you then made a generalized insult?
Cobra
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Originally posted by Hangtime
what would r. lee say?
He'd be too busy skull-****ing Blitz to talk.
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Originally posted by Cobra
Of course I do, why would you make that assumption.....because I noted that after you got frustrated because you couldn't convince everyone to the righteousness of your posts, you then made a generalized insult?
Cobra
if you got insulted by my thread please tell me why
frustration you know little about if you have not worked with the people i was talking about.
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Thank you:
sOB
fuzzbunny
bGBMAW
lazerus1
gruenherz
eagler
toady
midnight Target
udie
gtoRA2
furious
aKiron
batz
hang
funked
treepence
Thank you very much for ya kindly words , my friends, glad there are at least a few people with a heart at the right place :)
With the greatest respect your
Cincerly Blitz
Punt
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blitz,
You made your point and tried to candy coat it with a meaningless apology. I/We don't swallow it. You are pathetic! No, not your country, YOU ARE PATHETIC.
Please leave the boards and the game. Use this as a learning expierence. You may need it when you graduate high school!
With Complete Disregard and Disgust,
Dracon,
The simple father of a US Navy SeaBee "Can Do"
Bless The Troops and may every Mothers Son and Daughter come home.
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If you dont like america...get the **** off the planet. its ours...!!!
j/k
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Blitz I only answered the question about what R. Lee Ermey (drill sergeant from Full Metal Jacket) would do with you. If you don't know him, he's like Cabby + Hangtime + Rambo. I didn't read your apology, and I didn't read the thing you are apologizing for. I put you on ignore a long time ago. Your opinion about the war doesn't matter. It's just characters on a computer screen. I don't want to read it but I won't get mad about it.
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Of course Airhead, I'm a glutton for roses... although I don't like boxes of random assortments of candy, they tend to have some of the worst surprises in them. "Oooo this looks like an appetizing treat... oh no!! This candy is the spawn of satan himself!!!"
Was I ever offended by Blitz? Not in the least, I just wanted to point out the double sided standards some people use when saying "Hey! He apologized" when indeed he has a lot more to apologize than his use of soldiers lost in a war to further his point. It's nice he apologized for that, however, it would of been even nicer if he thought things out before he posted.
He keeps preaching about the loss of life and how this war is unnecessary, well we know the story by now... and then he uses the loss of life in order to justify his point.
Anyhow, this post is quickly turning into an entirely different topic so I will stop.
The apology to me appears very hollow, and I'm astonished it took him this long to realise the error he made in regards to the subject this post is about.
Best Forrest Gump voice: And that's all I hafta say about that.
-SW
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dont kill telemarketers...they may be the last line of defense when the iraqi's invade!
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I'll bet you're the kinda guy that would **** a person in the bellybutton and not even have the whoopee common courtesy to give him a reach-around. I'll be watching you.[/i]
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Of course Airhead, I'm a glutton for roses... although I don't like boxes of random assortments of candy, they tend to have some of the worst surprises in them. "Oooo this looks like an appetizing treat... oh no!! This candy is the spawn of satan himself!!!"
Was I ever offended by Blitz? Not in the least, I just wanted to point out the double sided standards some people use when saying "Hey! He apologized" when indeed he has a lot more to apologize than his use of soldiers lost in a war to further his point. It's nice he apologized for that, however, it would of been even nicer if he thought things out before he posted.
He keeps preaching about the loss of life and how this war is unnecessary, well we know the story by now... and then he uses the loss of life in order to justify his point.
Anyhow, this post is quickly turning into an entirely different topic so I will stop.
The apology to me appears very hollow, and I'm astonished it took him this long to realise the error he made in regards to the subject this post is about.
Best Forrest Gump voice: And that's all I hafta say about that.
-SW
I could have quit this game and BBs very easy to avoid an aplology, yet i decided different .
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Originally posted by air_guard
ofcourse it will make a bad taste ,
but anyway a appology is alright in my point of view.
you surely have not a clue about humain behaviour do you ?
You are so very correct. I do not have any clues into human behaviour. I am just a stupid american and too easily outwitted by your vast and superior intellect.
but....
Offering an apology for an act, does not erase the act.
Making and apology does not make the apologizer a good person.
An apology does not make it all better.
If you can not see this, then "you surely have not a clue about humain behaviour do you?"
proceed.
F.
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Originally posted by blitz
The seed of hate from Mr. Bush ' Who not with us is against us' has grown.
That's a very good way to put it. wtg.
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This is what you're doing:
1: Post-crap apology.
2: Post-apology crap.
This is what I want you to do:
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Arlo, I am sorry.:(
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That's beside the point. :D
Originally posted by Airhead
Arlo, I am sorry.:(
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Let's put this in perspective.
Of the American soldiers captured, the ones that refused to cooperate in front of the camera were probably shot in the head. There are reports that the captured bodies appeared to have been shot in the forehead. This was probably done in front of the rest of them. So, they appeared scared, so what, anyone with any sense would be.
To ridicule them for this as Blitz has done is for me if not unforgivable at least revolting to the degree that I no longer wish to see anything he has to blabber, here, or in the game.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Let's put this in perspective.
Of the American soldiers captured, the ones that refused to cooperate in front of the camera were probably shot in the head. There are reports that the captured bodies appeared to have been shot in the forehead. This was probably done in front of the rest of them. So, they appeared scared, so what, anyone with any sense would be.
To ridicule them for this as Blitz has done is for me if not unforgivable at least revolting to the degree that I no longer wish to see anything he has to blabber, here, or in the game.
Exactly, I wish he would go the hell away. I guess ignore with have to do though. **** him and **** the people like him.
again I say to him STFU nobody wants to hear what you have to say.
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wow to the whole thread :eek:
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Originally posted by AKIron
Let's put this in perspective.
Of the American soldiers captured, the ones that refused to cooperate in front of the camera were probably shot in the head. There are reports that the captured bodies appeared to have been shot in the forehead. This was probably done in front of the rest of them. So, they appeared scared, so what, anyone with any sense would be.
That crossed my mind too.