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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Curval on March 25, 2003, 06:44:31 AM

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Curval on March 25, 2003, 06:44:31 AM

The new NVidia Ti4200 has resulted in some serious problems when running AH.

There is significant flickering in the cockpit.  It appears as if tiles are appearing and disappearing on the solid surfaces of the cockpit and after a while in the air the cockpit becomes very blurred and the instruments hard to read.

I sent a film to support@hitechcreations.com.

I haven't reinstalled AH yet but I will if that could be the problem, this evening.

Let me know,

Curval

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Skuzzy on March 25, 2003, 06:53:36 AM

What drivers are you using?  30.82's seem the best.  I would shy away from the 4x.xx Detonators.

I have seen this with NVidia cards.  Try capping the frame rate in the video setup of AH.

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Curval on March 25, 2003, 07:27:57 AM

I downloaded the latest drivers...40.9 I think.

I will try to find the ones you suggest tonight.

What should I cap it at?  45?

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: blackfalcon4 on March 25, 2003, 07:48:37 AM

reinstall dx8.1, then the 30.82's, rename video.cfg in AH settings folder, it will redo the video settings.

hope it helps

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: straffo on March 25, 2003, 07:50:42 AM

NT version :
http://download.guru3d.com/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=447

9x/Me version :
http://download.guru3d.com/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=442

W2000/XP version :
http://download.guru3d.com/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=441

and don't forget to set Vsync on in the Nvidia control applet


voili ... voila  ... :)

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Curval on March 25, 2003, 07:56:05 AM

Extremely cool guys thanks Skuzzy, Blackfalcon4 and my fine French amis Straffo.

:)

Straffo...don't forget to do what?  I am computer "challenged"...dunno what the vsync thingy is...

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: blackfalcon4 on March 25, 2003, 08:04:38 AM

not to worry curval, nvidia sets vsync as default, but if ya wanta check it manually, go to vid settings/advanced/gforce tab/additional properties/open gl tab; there you will find vsysnc box,, should be on by default.

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: straffo on March 25, 2003, 08:08:43 AM

My pleasure my friend :)

for VSync (beware lot of french words in the following screen captures ;))

Open to control pannel

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: straffo on March 25, 2003, 08:09:17 AM

next

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: straffo on March 25, 2003, 08:09:51 AM

we continue ...

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: straffo on March 25, 2003, 08:10:32 AM

...
forgot to add : it's in the direct3 control page

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Curval on March 25, 2003, 08:11:02 AM

You guys are awesome.

Thanks.

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: straffo on March 25, 2003, 08:11:09 AM

and finaly ...

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Curval on March 25, 2003, 08:13:32 AM

Really appreciate it Straffo..thanks.:)

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: straffo on March 25, 2003, 08:45:42 AM

I'm a nerd ;)

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Curval on March 25, 2003, 08:57:01 AM

Quote

Originally posted by straffo
I'm a nerd ;)

LOL...me too..just not a computer nerd.

;)

My IT guy has also mentioned that I will need to check all of my Bios settings too..he is going to talk me through that tonight also.

Thanks again.

Curval

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Animal on March 25, 2003, 09:05:15 AM

A French GUI!
Ugh, sacrebleu!

I will now join the others in French bashing!

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: straffo on March 25, 2003, 09:08:13 AM

I can do the same captures with the chinese PC sit near my main PC if you want :p
Or the Korean  one if you prefer :D

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: fffreeze220 on March 25, 2003, 09:32:05 AM

hidden XP feature for french guys

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Animal on March 25, 2003, 09:45:31 AM

LOL thats an awesome feature.
I hope its not buggy (flys or insects inside)

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: straffo on March 25, 2003, 10:03:09 AM

rotflmao :)

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: straffo on March 26, 2003, 08:14:50 AM

Is it working better curval ?

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Curval on March 26, 2003, 08:28:32 AM

Yes..and no.

My frame rate improved but I am getting flashing and degardation of my cockpit after a few minutes of flying.

After a while it looks as if there is either a "nano invasion" happening, or that my cockpit is rusting out...looks awful.

I wasn't able to follow the exact order of re-installing Directx, then the 30.82 drivers and then renaming the folder as I lost my internet connection last night and couldn't see the exact order Blackfalcon4 was suggesting I perform the attempted fix.  I did get the 30.82 drivers loaded and reinstalled DirectX...just not in the sequence suggested.

Dunno...I will try it again tonight.

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: straffo on March 26, 2003, 08:37:50 AM

hu ho ...

how old is your vdo card  ?

what brand it is ?

is the vdo overclocked ?

is there a fan on the vdo and is it working ?

check your case temperature and what is the ambiant température.

test with the case open

What dx version do you have ?

et zou ... (not translatable ... sorry ;))

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Curval on March 26, 2003, 09:09:40 AM

Quote

Originally posted by straffo
hu ho ...

how old is your vdo card  ?

what brand it is ?

is the vdo overclocked ?

is there a fan on the vdo and is it working ?

check your case temperature and what is the ambiant température.

test with the case open

What dx version do you have ?

et zou ... (not translatable ... sorry ;))

Video card is 2 days old.

It is a GeForce 4 Ti4200 (64DDR)

The processor is overclocked, but not by much apparently.

Fan is there and working.

I have not had my case on it at all...I leave it off.

Dx version is 8.1

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: straffo on March 26, 2003, 09:25:55 AM

2 days old ?
Can be a faulty memory on the card IMO.
try without any overclock.

try artifact tester : http://ads.ad-flow.com/?DC=Crucial-125&DH=Y&TARGET=_blank

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Skuzzy on March 26, 2003, 09:34:16 AM

Degradation like that is usually a sign of overheating or power supply not being strong enough on the rail.

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Siaf__csf on March 26, 2003, 09:39:24 AM

You can get rid of the blurry text by removing anisotropic filtering and setting anti-aliasing to 0.

I prefer to see a few jagged edges instead of reading the text through yesterdays beer bottle bottom.

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Curval on March 26, 2003, 09:51:36 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Skuzzy
Degradation like that is usually a sign of overheating or power supply not being strong enough on the rail.

I replaced the power supply about 2 months ago..had no problems like this with the old video card (GeForce 2 MMX) after I replced it.

All of the problems I am having are new since the installation of the GeForce 4 vid card.

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: fffreeze220 on March 26, 2003, 10:27:52 AM

What brand is the vid card ? Gainward ?

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Curval on March 26, 2003, 10:58:27 AM

Quote

Originally posted by fffreeze220
What brand is the vid card ? Gainward ?

NVidia GeForce 4 Ti4200 (64DDR)

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: fffreeze220 on March 26, 2003, 11:34:02 AM

I guess u got me wrong.
What company manufactured the card ?

There are severel companys on the market.
Like Gainward, Leadtek, Asus etc.

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Curval on March 26, 2003, 12:43:15 PM

Quote

Originally posted by fffreeze220
I guess u got me wrong.
What company manufactured the card ?

There are severel companys on the market.
Like Gainward, Leadtek, Asus etc.

No idea man...I'll check tonight.

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: fffreeze220 on March 26, 2003, 12:55:25 PM

If it is from Gainward u have a 50% chance its an hardware error.
U should bring it back where u bought it and get it replaced.

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Siaf__csf on March 27, 2003, 05:31:22 AM

Yeah replace it with a superior Ati product ;)

Title: Help! Skuzzy?
Post by: Curval on March 27, 2003, 09:43:47 AM

My network guy from the office did a check on my machine again last night.  All of my problems seem to be system related due to wife and children (and me probably) downloading junk onto my machine.

The hard drive was running at 30% efficiency and I had errors in everything from the autoexec.bat file and config.sys file to directx 8.1.

Apparently I have been lucky to have been able to play with the machine at it has been for months.

He says that the change in video card was probably the "last straw" and that the system can no longer manage without a complete re-build.

So..I am getting it re-built, and having XP installed instead of 98.

Wish me luck.

Curval