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Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 04:54:39 PM
Frenchy... KFI belongs to Clear Channel.

Anyone who thinks the liberals control the media hasn't done their homework. Clear Channel owns over 1200 stations and is responsible for making Dubya a multi-millionaire.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: ra on March 25, 2003, 04:59:31 PM
Translation:  the good Americans are the liberal ones.    :rolleyes:
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 05:06:49 PM
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Originally posted by ra
Translation:  the good Americans are the liberal ones.    :rolleyes:


I think the key is to have a balance of both, liberal and conservative.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: ra on March 25, 2003, 05:12:18 PM
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I think the key is to have a balance of both, liberal and conservative.

Did you used to say this before Fox and Rush came along?
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 05:15:36 PM
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Originally posted by ra
Did you used to say this before Fox and Rush came along?


Before Clear Channel, I didn't have to.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 05:21:09 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Politically owned media. Now that sounds fishy ... like propaganda.


Don't get me wrong... Clear Channel isn't politically owned, but they are well placed politically. They have a vast amount of influence.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Dnil on March 25, 2003, 07:27:50 PM
but if people didnt listen they would fail....the people are deciding which stations and programs last.....hence liberal programs having a much harder time to break through.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Steve on March 25, 2003, 07:31:07 PM
This is liberal speak for:  Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 07:34:34 PM
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Originally posted by Dnil
but if people didnt listen they would fail....the people are deciding which stations and programs last.....hence liberal programs having a much harder time to break through.


There is no breaking through. Clear Channel is building a monopoly.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: NUKE on March 25, 2003, 07:51:55 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
There is no breaking through. Clear Channel is building a monopoly.


This is why Donahue failed....... media monoploly.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: midnight Target on March 25, 2003, 07:52:01 PM
Live in the area... KFI is sometimes the ONLY station that will come in, it is that powerful.

The Line up----

Bill Handel - Morning DJ, pretty moderate for a Jewish Lawyer.
Rush
Dr. Laura
John & Ken

Getting VERY difficult to find a liberal talk show anywhere on the radio. I guess libs don't like to call in and agree with the host.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: NUKE on March 25, 2003, 07:54:48 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Live in the area... KFI is sometimes the ONLY station that will come in, it is that powerful.

The Line up----

Bill Handel - Morning DJ, pretty moderate for a Jewish Lawyer.
Rush
Dr. Laura
John & Ken

Getting VERY difficult to find a liberal talk show anywhere on the radio. I guess libs don't like to call in and agree with the host.


Ever hear of NPR? All the government liberal radio you could ever wish for. They just don't have to be viable to exist
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Erlkonig on March 25, 2003, 07:57:17 PM
Sandman = apologist for the homosexual Zionist liberal media
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: NUKE on March 25, 2003, 07:59:52 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Live in the area... KFI is sometimes the ONLY station that will come in, it is that powerful.

The Line up----

Bill Handel - Morning DJ, pretty moderate for a Jewish Lawyer.
Rush
Dr. Laura
John & Ken

Getting VERY difficult to find a liberal talk show anywhere on the radio. I guess libs don't like to call in and agree with the host.


You live in California and can't find a liberal station? LOL

NPR, government funded liberal station...... otherwise not viable.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: funkedup on March 25, 2003, 08:04:38 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Live in the area... KFI is sometimes the ONLY station that will come in, it is that powerful.

The Line up----

Bill Handel - Morning DJ, pretty moderate for a Jewish Lawyer.
Rush
Dr. Laura
John & Ken

Getting VERY difficult to find a liberal talk show anywhere on the radio. I guess libs don't like to call in and agree with the host.


What you need is NPR as Nuke pointed out, or PRI (Public Radio International) or Pacifica Radio.  They have hippie-dippie hosts and shows galore.  :)
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Ozark on March 25, 2003, 08:17:54 PM
Please don’t confuse Pacifica Radio with NPR. Pacifica Radio is your local “Death to America” radio station. It’s like the FOX news service for liberals.

I plan my Friday’s around, “NPR Science Friday”.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 08:43:10 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
Ever hear of NPR? All the government liberal radio you could ever wish for. They just don't have to be viable to exist


In FY2000, 46% of NPR revenues were contributions; 40% came from member stations... In a typical year, government funding and endowments account for about 14%.

It's not fully funded by the government. In fact, the majority of the funding is not government.


For comparison purposes, 680 stations in the U.S. air some NPR programming. Clear Channel owns over 1200 stations and controls 247 of the 250 radio markets in this country with CC controlling the programming 24/7.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: NUKE on March 25, 2003, 08:51:44 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
In FY2000, 46% of NPR revenues were contributions; 40% came from member stations... In a typical year, government funding and endowments account for about 14%.

It's not fully funded by the government.


For comparison purposes, 680 stations in the U.S. air some NPR programming. Clear Channel owns over 1200 stations and controls 247 of the 250 radio markets in this country with CC controlling the programming 24/7.


Too bad  the free market allows Clear Channel to strive I guess.

NPR is a government run station that would not exist otherwise.

Fact is that Clear Channel stations have the  "clear" support of consumers
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 08:57:10 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
Too bad  the free market allows Clear Channel to strive I guess.

NPR is a government run station that would not exist otherwise.

Fact is that Clear Channel stations have the  "clear" support of consumers


Do you know what a monopoly is?
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: NUKE on March 25, 2003, 09:00:24 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Do you know what a monopoly is?


Do you know what a free market is?

Explain how Clear Channel is a monopoly.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Ozark on March 25, 2003, 09:07:03 PM
Do you have a clue what: “Clear Channel”, means in the radio biz?
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 09:09:47 PM
It's not a free market if the richest company effectively owns the market. It's not a free market at all if all of the stations in any given region have the same programming. It's the same reason that Microsoft found themselves in court.

Having one company control the media is every bit as bad as having the government do it. In fact, FCC chairman Powell (the son of Colin Powell) created the Media Ownership Working Group and tasked it with developing a factual foundation for reevaluating FCC media ownership policies.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: NUKE on March 25, 2003, 09:14:20 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
It's not a free market if the richest company effectively owns the market. It's not a free market at all if all of the stations in any given region have the same programming. It's the same reason that Microsoft found themselves in court.

Having one company control the media is every bit as bad as having the government do it. In fact, FCC chairman Powell (the son of Colin Powell) created the Media Ownership Working Group and tasked it with developing a factual foundation for reevaluating FCC media ownership policies.


How does one company control the media exactly? I wonder where the listeners are coming from.

And Microsoft....... what system do you run on your computer and why?


I rest my case.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 09:19:21 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
How does one company control the media exactly? I wonder where the listeners are coming from.

And Microsoft....... what system do you run on your computer and why?


I rest my case.


Yes you have. Your head is in the sand.

There are already numerous anti-trust suits on file against Clear Channel.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Ozark on March 25, 2003, 09:29:08 PM
I get it now, Clear Channel is a marketing group. I guess it’s a left coast thing.

I was thinking about the REAL meaning of clear channel.

Clear Channel = FCC allocation of a radio frequency to transmit with higher power. The FCC will not issue a license to transmit that would interfere with the station that has rights to the clear channel frequency.

Note: This applies to AM radio. FM radio using “Clear Channel” is just a marketing ploy.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: NUKE on March 25, 2003, 09:30:04 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Yes you have. Your head is in the sand.

There are already numerous anti-trust suits on file against Clear Channel.


you win. I cannot argue with your facts.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: NUKE on March 25, 2003, 09:34:51 PM
B.T.W Sandman

Do you realise that you can run the  Linux OS on your computer for free? The trick is that you have to have a few computer skills to operate it, but it is still FREE and POWERFUL...... more powerful than MS.

So you think MS has a monopoly?  

MS has a consumer MARKET that buys it's product...... you included. You could get a free OS if you wanted.

I wonder what is forcing you to run the MS operating system?
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 09:44:04 PM
No false acquiescence. :)


Really... it's not about liberal or conservative media... If CC was a liberal company (yeah, I know... oxymoron), but if it was this would still upset my democratic sensibilities.

The organization that controls the media, controls the voters and in turn, controls the governent and the country. I really believe that diversification of the media is the key to a truly democratic society.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Hangtime on March 25, 2003, 09:51:33 PM
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The organization that controls the media, controls the voters and in turn, controls the governent and the country. I really believe that diversification of the media is the key to a truly democratic society.


gawdammit, sandy, we've warned you before about disseminating truth and rational judgements....

skuzzy! lock this thread!
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 09:53:26 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
B.T.W Sandman

Do you realise that you can run the  Linux OS on your computer for free? The trick is that you have to have a few computer skills to operate it, but it is still FREE and POWERFUL...... more powerful than MS.

So you think MS has a monopoly?  

MS has a consumer MARKET that buys it's product...... you included. You could get a free OS if you wanted.

I wonder what is forcing you to run the MS operating system?


As a matter of fact, I do know that I can run another OS... and yes, I know how. Nevertheless, Microsoft was in court fighting monopoly accusations.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 09:55:07 PM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
gawdammit, sandy, we've warned you before about disseminating truth and rational judgements....

skuzzy! lock this thread!


Careful... this playful banter my give people the wrong impression that you can actually be civil with a leftie pinko scumbag. :D
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Steve on March 25, 2003, 11:02:12 PM
Numerous suits filed.. So if I file suit against you, you are guilty of that which I accuse you of?  


Microsoft was in court... blah blah blah.... did they lose?


Your rediculous words equate to this:   If you go to court as a defendent/respondent you are guilty.

Am I the only one in here who realizes how assinine this is?
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 11:04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Steve
Numerous suits filed.. So if I file suit against you, you are guilty of that which I accuse you of?  


Microsoft was in court... blah blah blah.... did they lose?


Your rediculous words equate to this:   If you go to court as a defendent/respondent you are guilty.

Am I the only one in here who realizes how assinine this is?



From this day forward, I shall never ever use an analogy again on this BBS. It's far too distracting, obviously.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Steve on March 25, 2003, 11:24:47 PM
Use ones that make sense.  You know damned well you were insinuating that the parties mentioned were guilty because they were in court.  How about I sue you for a million dollars?  If you want, I'll settle out of court to save you from being guilty... say 50%?
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 11:26:56 PM
Like I said... too distracting... forget the analogy Steve.
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: -ammo- on March 25, 2003, 11:31:11 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
No false acquiescence. :)


Really... it's not about liberal or conservative media... If CC was a liberal company (yeah, I know... oxymoron), but if it was this would still upset my democratic sensibilities.

The organization that controls the media, controls the voters and in turn, controls the governent and the country. I really believe that diversification of the media is the key to a truly democratic society.


This sounds like me whining about ABC/CBS/NBC..and CNN
Title: KFI (for Frenchy)
Post by: Sandman on March 25, 2003, 11:35:43 PM
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Originally posted by -ammo-
This sounds like me whining about ABC/CBS/NBC..and CNN


This thread was in response to this post by Frenchy:

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I called a radio station about France!
Anyone know KFI in L.A. a major talk radio station? It's a radio station with Tom and Ken, something like that. Sheesh what a gang. They were trashing the French bad the over day "cowards, need a taste of terrorisum to wake up, in bed with saddam blahblah".
I called those guys, I couldn't resist here is how it went:

- KFI?
- Hi, my name is Olivier Raunier, I am listening to your show, I would like the opportunity to talk to your animators.
- Regarding?
- Well, I happen to be French, and you guys are hitting hard on my country, I wished to express my oppinion.
-




- KFI?
- Hey, this is Olivier again, did you guys just hanged up on me?
- Heuu .. no ... it happens sometimes, we loose connection.
- I wished to talk to your animators tom and ken. Those guys are trashing France for the last 30 minutes and I wish to offer an alternative point of view.
- They are not taking questions right now, they will have an open cession in about 3 hours.
- But they just took a phone call from someone.
-

Hehehe, Who's the coward now? It's amazing, those guys, with responsability to "educate/entertain" the masses are great at generating hatreated with biazed discussion, and would do everything to keep it this way.