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Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Nash on October 19, 2000, 12:38:00 AM
Yeah...night, ok, whatever. It lasts too short for me to care, really. Make it last longer, it would then be a factor, and I'd have an opinion on it, one way or the other. I just can't seem to get worked up about 10 minutes of darkness.

However...

What I'd like to see just once in AH is overcast. Grey, dreary, dismal overcast.

Doesn't have to be full cloud cover (impossible online)... but turn that nice blue sky to grey now and again...

Especially when we get the boats. There's somethin' just... I dunno... *dramatic* about a carrier pitchin' in the open sea when it's socked in.

All this sun and blue sky... It's just too damn cheery in the arenas sometimes... ya know?

Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Swoop on October 19, 2000, 12:43:00 AM
yeah.....and lets face it, it's not as if we *ever* abort a bombing mission due to cloud cover over the target.....

Swoop
Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: flakbait on October 19, 2000, 01:03:00 AM
Here is where I miss ATF Gold. Low lying ground fog, bomb dispersion, cloudy days...damn it was great. Too bad the graphics and flight models stunk. Longbow 2 [helo flight sim] even had RAIN! Didn't chew my FPS up that bad, and I've got an antique computer. Wind is something I miss from MS Flight Sim 5.0 [yep, DOS game]. AH wind is only vertical, but the storms in MSFS 5.0 were REALLY nasty! Getting bounced around in high winds kicked butt. Same goes for turbulence and no visibility!

Alas, I can't run any of those games anymore. They either hate my Banshee vid card, or the CDs are in horrid shape.




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Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Fishu on October 19, 2000, 01:42:00 AM
For the night, I wish that icon ranges would also suffer from it..
It is clear that you're not going to see some dark plane from 4 miles away.
There would come alot help of icons in the night  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: flakbait on October 19, 2000, 05:46:00 AM
I hear you Fishu. In WBs I could regularly shoot down the AI-controlled F-15s even in pitch blackness. Those Neon signs helped provide a nice BIG target. I'd say chop the icon range from 6k down to just 2k at night. If anything HTC should put the night back in for event use. Instead of 0530 being dark, it'd get dark at 1900.

It's weather effects I'm waiting for. I doubt we'll ever see ground fog, or heavy turbulence, but a man can dream....



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Flakbait
19 September 2000
Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: StSanta on October 19, 2000, 05:56:00 AM
Once the novelty wore off, night became boring.

Or was it just me that noticed the drop in players as night set?

"Bleh night, bbl" on ch2 and 1.

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Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: JoeMud on October 19, 2000, 10:07:00 AM
of freaken well man you miss 10 minutes of fun outta like what 5 to 6 hours? so yall just say get rid of it and 80% or more of the community loses the 10 minutes that are the most fun to them. Wish I could snap my fingers like that and get HTC to take inlfight radar off.

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Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: juzz on October 19, 2000, 10:28:00 AM
If AH had graphics like Il-2, then I would say bring on the night, no icons and realistic airborne radar.

BUT

AH graphics simply aren't that good, so night is just annoying as hell. Unless chasing red icons on a black screen is your idea of fun...
Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Ripsnort on October 19, 2000, 10:33:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by juzz:
...AH graphics simply aren't that good, so night is just annoying as hell.

Errr, excuse me?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: juzz on October 19, 2000, 10:40:00 AM
IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL NIGHT? IT'S NOT WHERE I COME FROM!
Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Nash on October 19, 2000, 10:44:00 AM
So nobody has an opinion on the fact that since 1989, we've fought every single battle of every single day in clear blue sunny skies? I'm the only person who's noticed this?

<shrug>

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Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Ripsnort on October 19, 2000, 10:45:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by juzz:
IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL NIGHT? IT'S NOT WHERE I COME FROM!

Wasn't refering to night, I was refering to the comment that 'AH graphics aren't that good"....besides, that earlier dawn screen shot looks just like the one I saw this morning in Seattle from 5000 feet, anyone else see it?  Looked just like that screen shot.

Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Fishu on October 19, 2000, 10:45:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by StSanta:
Once the novelty wore off, night became boring.

Or was it just me that noticed the drop in players as night set?

"Bleh night, bbl" on ch2 and 1.


It's a big loss for those dweebs  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I am all for night and I am not afraid of it!

Think about tank to tank fights  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: juzz on October 19, 2000, 12:39:00 PM
 
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besides, that earlier dawn screen shot looks just like the one I saw this morning in Seattle from 5000 feet, anyone else see it? Looked just like that screen shot.

Really? Was the ZEKE there too?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

I just think that the AH graphics engine is lacking some of the nice lighting effects that I would want in a game with night combat.
Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Afrika9 on October 19, 2000, 12:43:00 PM
If it wont cause my frame rate to suffer too badly, I could go for some cruddy flying weather.  

Of course the alternative is getting an old spray bottle and filling it with muddy water and spraying your computer screen every 10 minutes or so.  Or maybe a vaporizer in the computer room, turned up on hi.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: LJK Raubvogel on October 19, 2000, 12:50:00 PM
Bring back the night and the moon.

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Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: -duma- on October 19, 2000, 01:08:00 PM
From what I've seen before I think the AH engine only supports one light source (Whihc is only sensible if you want a fast frame rate). If this is true than proper night would be a pretty huge technical undertaking.
Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Nash on October 19, 2000, 02:18:00 PM
This is what I'm talking about. No clouds have been added or anything. Just a matter of stripping the color from the sky. So instead of the graduated sky being made up of levels of blue, just insert the values for the shades of grey.


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Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Fatty on October 19, 2000, 02:24:00 PM
 
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besides, that earlier dawn screen shot looks just like the one I saw this morning in Seattle from 5000 feet, anyone else see it?

No offense Rip, AH graphics are great, but um, have you looked at getting glasses?   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Nash that altered screen shot looks awsome, puts you in the grim mood for death and destruction.

edit PS - Would need to dull the ground color a little to match the overcast and it'd be perfect.

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Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Nash on October 19, 2000, 03:09:00 PM
oops.... double post yet again.

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Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Afrika9 on October 19, 2000, 03:32:00 PM
Yeah Nash, that looks great.  Simple and effective.  Bring on the gray skies!

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Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Wilfrid on October 19, 2000, 04:16:00 PM
I live in England...the ONLY time I see blue skies and a bright sun is in AH. And you want to take it away from me?

wilfrid
Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Nash on October 19, 2000, 04:47:00 PM
Yes.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Night in the MA? Well, sure, but....
Post by: Wilfrid on October 19, 2000, 06:18:00 PM
Just for that Nash, I`m going to have to demand that you add streaky water droplets to the canopy and a nice big rainbow. Make it look good, eh?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Wilfrid