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Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: Ecke-109- on March 27, 2003, 08:41:51 AM: Hello gents,

i am not a newbie.But i am not very familiar with the terms of ACM.
I probably use them by intuition and learning from my oponents in the game.
But for lots of them ,i dont know the right term.
And i am sure ,there are some ACM left that i dont know.
I dont want to waste my time by searching the web for sketches that shows 2 planes and a handfull of swinging lines.
So i would like to enjoy your support.

Please send me films which shows certain ACM.If possible ,name that films comparing to the ACM it is representing.
The films should be as short as possible and as long as necessary.
Even you are a victim of an ACM.I would love to see it all. :D
This is not a 'best kill contest'.Only nameable ACM ,and even your personal tricks are interesting for me.

Send it to ecke@me109.net

Regards,
Ecke
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: Nwbie on March 27, 2003, 11:41:51 AM: Hi Ecke,
If you get a film from Jackal showing you how to auger a pony in style, please forward on to me ok?
I am soooo envious of his ability to do it in style and with such grace !!

Thanks in advance

NwBie

:)
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: vorticon on March 27, 2003, 01:22:41 PM: same here...(over a year of play and i still dont know what a immelman or a split s is...)
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: ccvi on March 27, 2003, 01:23:14 PM: try http://www.lemsko.de/
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: Horn on March 27, 2003, 02:16:04 PM: http://www.concentric.net/~Twist/airwar/shaw.shtml
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: Ecke-109- on March 27, 2003, 02:32:06 PM: Thank you,mates

this starts well so far.But i want more.
So dont hesitate and mail your films.Dont care if i could get 10 films with the same move.i sort them out.And i want to see them all.

@Nwbie
I dont forget you if i should get some stuff from Jackal

Regards,
Ecke
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: qts on March 27, 2003, 02:34:21 PM: The bible is Colonel Robert Shaw's Fighter Combat.
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: wetrat on March 27, 2003, 02:39:12 PM: Order the book Fighter Combat by Robert Shaw.. explains things well.
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: Duckwing6 on March 27, 2003, 02:55:07 PM: yup THE BIBLE is a good book .. especially the concepts of energy fighting and wing-man tactics are illustrated in a excellent fashion !

And boy.. Ecke asks for ACM help ?? and that's the man who saves my butt so much when we go hunting in 109s :D
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: Ecke-109- on March 27, 2003, 03:00:49 PM: Duckwing,

du Charmeur;)
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: Duckwing6 on March 27, 2003, 03:09:25 PM: yup THE BIBLE is a good book .. especially the concepts of energy fighting and wing-man tactics are illustrated in a excellent fashion !

And boy.. Ecke asks for ACM help ?? and that's the man who saves my butt so much when we go hunting in 109s :D
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: Sandman on March 28, 2003, 01:26:54 AM: Quote
Originally posted by qts
The bible is Colonel Robert Shaw's Fighter Combat.

Colonel? I don't think so.
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: mjolnir on March 28, 2003, 01:37:58 AM: Mouse is a pretty cool guy, if you ever get the chance to meet him. He's probably forgotten more about ACM than I'll ever know.
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: Tyro48 on March 28, 2003, 03:02:05 AM: ACM is flying with a wingman and both executing BFM, what you really want to concentrate on is BFM then pursue ACM. And as all have pointed out Shaws book is great for both, also simhg.com has great articles in the air combat corner. Going over BFM with a trainer in the TA would also be of immediate input.
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: Ecke-109- on March 28, 2003, 09:59:31 AM: Thank you Tyro48 for correcting...

after consulting my dictionary...thats it... BasicFlightManeuver. ;)

I would like to build up a little library of common and
uncommon BFM. Just for my own enjoyment and studies.
For comfortable use,the moves should be all ahf-files.

I could buy that book,and learn to name the maneuvers.And then film my own flights.After that ,i would watch the films (hopefully to find some well and clean flown BFM),and then cut the moves and name the files comparing to the move.

But thats not the same:)

Probably,here in the forum is a bit more knowledge as it is in the 'Fighter Combat' book.
And maybe ,some experienced guys here (with that knowledge) remember themselves that they filmed a beautiful fight with one or more exciting moves or tricks.Even a simple but smooth flown barrelroll with a destroyed oponent as a result.

And if these guys would take maybe about 30mins or so,to watch that film again and cut the sequence and rename the file.
On the way to that ,they could catch a simple 15 or 20sec 'Split-s'move.
.....man...that would be nice

Hopefully yours,Ecke
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: ccvi on March 28, 2003, 01:43:53 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Ecke-109-
Probably,here in the forum is a bit more knowledge as it is in the 'Fighter Combat' book.

You can learn a lot about engine toggling and flipping p38s here. Those tricks aint in the books :p
Title: I need to learn more about ACM
Post by: Tyro48 on March 28, 2003, 01:48:35 PM: Ok ck out these sites:

simhq.com go to combat corner read the articles that interest you

netAces.org click on basic maneuvers

homepage.tinet.ie/~frontacs/WBStored/ACM_BFM.html