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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: BGBMAW on March 27, 2003, 09:14:57 PM
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come on...can we dispose of this guy..
His posts are disgusting to the majority of us here.
They do no good. They only create hatered and want us(well me) to physically cause him pain and suffering.
I can not stand for these"persons" to post such blatant lies to say we target civilians.
I am really disgusted by this guy.
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Yeah, I must admit he's one of the few people I've met in my years of online gaming that I'd consider kicking the crap out of if I ever met him at a conference.
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Relax guys.
Let him self-destruct, there is no need to feed him.
You're showing he's getting to you, with the recent post I'd say that's exactly what he wants.
Mind you, I'm no voice of reason. ;)
-SW
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He is expressing his opinion freely. It is a sacred and protected right. You must allow it and respect it for the sole purpose of protecting that right for yourselves. The added benifit of self expression is that he is allowing all to see openly his flawed beliefs.
Take it as such.
Care with love and compassion in your own heart and mind for those who are suffering so greatly and openly in the effort to free an entire nation from tryanny. Let people like weazle strand themselves in the lonely part of their heart until they are given the moral clarity to correct themselves. And hopefully do some good.
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Oh, I get it.
"I don't agree so Daddy please make him shut up."
Puh-leeze.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Oh, I get it.
"I don't agree so Daddy please make him shut up."
Puh-leeze.
disagreement and discussion is different than a propaganda post soley with the intention of insulting someone.
Puh-leeze
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Remember the old phrase:
"Your right to free speech ends where my fist begins"
:)
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Just put him on ignore. Nobody is forcing you to read his posts.
I haven't seen anything from him worth banning him for.
Now profane personal attacks and threats of violence, THAT's banning material IMHO.
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um I think BggMAw is losing it lol
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yep another case of "hes not as patriotic as me hang him "
aint it charming.
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Originally posted by bashwolf
um I think BggMAw is losing it lol
"losing it" suggests he was better before. :D
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I second what funked and Sandman, say.
Get a shrecking grip people.
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you get a grip.. or at least an even mind.
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Its funny how cool it is with you libs when pics are put op of supposed american "attrocites"...
Just sayin...
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Originally posted by funkedup
Now profane personal attacks and threats of violence, THAT's banning material IMHO.
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Either Weazel got a "time out" or he decided on his own to to mum. Taking bets.
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Grunherz your pants must be still wet from swimming from balcans to immigration. Are you just talking to get yourself warm?
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Lokks like I hit a nerve there....
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I'm with funkedup, Yeager, Sandman, and Dowding.
Last time I checked, what weazel posts isn't against the law.
Sometimes is it over the top? Sure it is (for most).
However one must ask do you favor freedom of expression under our present laws and rights? Yes or No?
No "Yes, I favor freedom of expression, but...." No buts. Either you do or you do not. So which is it? Mind you we aren't talking of his threatening anyone, suggesting the unlawful overthrow of our country, etc.
Much akin to burning our flag that would piss the vast majority of us off, that right is still guaranteed.
Threatening physical violence against an individual based on his posts to which you don't agree with might not be legal. THAT, I disagree with as you're attempting to infringe another's right to our most treasured right as free Americans.
Again, I am not saying you don't have a right to be upset against another individual because of what he writes as that's understood. Just can the threats, namecalling, and requests for banishment please.
Funkedup's got it 100% right-on, if you can't stand what another posts, then put him on your ignore list.
Regards
SaburoS
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Saburo me telling you to F... OFF is not against the law but it is probably against the rules of this PRIVATE forum... Do you understand the difference?
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No he doesn't. He probably never will.
Time to act somewhat civil .
With all the tensions in the world today, we need our community to realize that we are an international community.
With that, an understanding must be reached, that the various people from around the world may not agree with any given position voiced in this forum.
We are sensitive to that and make every attempt to allow discussions to run their course. As with anything regarding politics or religion we expect heated debates, but there are boundaries and lately they have been crossed.
I do not care if you are never a customer of mine again, there are some things that are not debatable. Laughing at the death of any human being is not acceptable behavior. Anything that crosses over the line of basic decency will not be tolerated. If you have to ask what that means, then you should not be posting in this forum, at this time.
We purposely let behavior be much more slack in the O'Club than any other place on this board, but it is time to bring it up a level gentlemen.
Dale Addink
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Free speech rights does not exist on private BBs. So you might want to knock off the "he is just using his right to free speech"-crap.
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Funny how people get it confused, the only right to free speech that exists on this BBS is to the owners of this BBS. Free speech is only protected in a public forum(public meaning government sponsered).
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Saburo me telling you to F... OFF is not against the law but it is probably against the rules of this PRIVATE forum... Do you understand the difference?
Didn't say it was. What I find ironic are that some people who figuratively wrap themselves in the flag and proclaim to be patriotic and pro-American are the first to espouse the banning of another individual. Do you understand the irony? Are our rights of free speech guaranteed here? Don't think so. Is it legal to threaten another with bodily harm? Probably not, but then I'm just guessing.
Let's look at the "law" as Dale has laid out in his forum:
"....Anything that crosses over the line of basic decency will not be tolerated. If you have to ask what that means, then you should not be posting in this forum, at this time."
Basic decency also includes namecalling, threats, etc., at least how I understand it. Do you understand it?
BTW, flame away if that's what you need to resort to. In the meantime, I'll try to show you the respect of some decency in trying to keep our debate/argument civil, whether I agree with your opinion or not.
I'll defend another's rights, even those that I disagree with. I even wrote an email to HTC regarding Hortlund's banning awhile ago - I never got a response though.
No need to get heated up to the point of threats, namecalling, etc. It's not like this BBS is going to have a real influence over our real world anyway.
We're missing the forests for the trees. Let's keep the decency please.
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Look if you think what weazel posted, and not just the pics themselves but also the meaning, is just fine then so be it. But people dont simply cross the line by using foul words, and weazel has juust done that in my opionn. As for the irony of banning people or asking they be put on probation for posting stuff well dale has set out his rules anf I feel weazel has violated them - im calling him on it.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Look if you think what weazel posted, and not just the pics themselves but also the meaning, is just fine then so be it. But people dont simply cross the line by using foul words, and weazel has juust done that in my opionn. As for the irony of banning people or asking they be put on probation for posting stuff well dale has set out his rules anf I feel weazel has violated them - im calling him on it.
Then let Dale and the others at HTC decide the decency issue of anyone's pics/posts. If they feel he is out of line then they'll first put him on probation, then if he continues against their wishes, they'll ban him. Two wrongs don't make a right. If someone posts something one disagrees with then argue the message/issues, don't "kill" the messenger by resorting to threats of violence and name calling. That would not be the decent thing to do. If the temper gets the better of one's ability to control his/her reactions, then they should just use the 'ignore' option.
If you feel another has "crossed the line" of decency, do you really feel your "crossing the line" in response is going to help your argument? Be the bigger individual. Argue the facts/message. Leave the decency issues up to HTC.
Regards Sir,
SaburoS
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AHHH LETS KICK HIS prettythang YEAH!!!! AHHHHHH..... ;)
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I'm gonna call him on it if gets outrageus - I will not let it go unchallenged, no way, no how, not with my background.
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All hail the mighty grunherz
bow you infidels!
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I bet you take it for granted dont ya sixpence, never gave it more than a passing thought in your life... And the fact that you prolly wont even know what I'm talking aboput only proves it...
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I'm gonna call him on it if gets outrageus - I will not let it go unchallenged, no way, no how, not with my background.
...and you should if you feel his posts are out of line and/or you just disagree with him. Arguing his (or anyone else's) post(s) using facts/issues with decency is hardly letting "it go unchallenged", actually you strengthen your very position by keeping civilized in your responses.
Look at it from Dale's (or any moderator's) point of view:
How can he justify banning one individual for "crossing the line" of decency and not ban the other's also "crossing the line."
No one "forces" another to lash out with violence against non-violent actions. Violent reactions are the result of one not being able to manage their temper and responses (jails are full of those types BTW.).
I would bet that if an 8 year old kid came up to you and called you names, you'd probably act the adult and ignore the kid. I don't think that the adults here would lower themselves to that kid's level and start yelling back (or worse, resort to physical violence). I could be wrong but I have faith in the adults here.
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Would I like to see weazel banned? Sure I would. I think he's rude and incitive. I'm sure tons of people feel the same way about me too.
Everyone has a "comfort zone". They like to be around people with views similar to their own. I wish everyone here was as conservative as me. We could sit around talking about how the French all suck, Canacians are really North Dakotans, and Iraq should be nuked.
However, it's never going to be that way, because weazel has just as much right to his opinion as i do to mine. However, according to HiTech, he doesn't have the right to intentionally incite, troll, or cross the line of civility. I guess we'll see if HiTech thinks he has. This BBS isn't America, nor should it be.
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Originally posted by Martlet
We could sit around talking about how the French all suck, Canacians are really North Dakotans, and Iraq should be nuked.
what is a canacian?
and I always thought Bostonians where all rutabagas thinking with there big fat inflated hot aired brains......:D
lucky I now how to discuss things :p
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Originally posted by SLO
what is a canacian?
and I always thought Bostonians where all rutabagas thinking with there big fat inflated hot aired brains......:D
lucky I now how to discuss things :p
Apparently you failed to catch my sarcasm in that sentence.
Canacian is a typo. Try to make the stretch.
I won't dispute the ego, but take a walk to South Boston and tell anyone there they are a *****. You'll never make it back to canudia, ay?
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Let him talk.
Cream and crap rises to the surface.
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I say let him stay. The entertainment value is priceless.
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weazel is a lot of fun and... a real study into the psyche of someone as they come unraveled. From a laymans perspective he is facinating.
lazs
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BGBMAW: come on...can we dispose of this guy..
I can not stand for these"persons" to post such blatant lies to say we target civilians.
I am really disgusted by this guy.
If you want him to stop thinking such vile thoughts, banning from the board will not accomplish that.
If you want not to see his posts and stay uninformed of what some other people think - regardless whether they are right or wrong - you can ignore his posts.
You do not need a nanny to protect you, do you? Or are you demanding it for our benefit, us being too stupid and gullible to to be allowed exposure?
That's what you get when you allow dumb unwashed masses to get education! Should have kept literacy to the enlightened elite like your worthy self. :)
miko