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Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: Toad on March 27, 2003, 11:31:39 PM

Well? When did it go in-service?

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: Russian on March 27, 2003, 11:36:52 PM

be more specific with name.

this might help (http://www.wonderland.org.nz/rat.htm)

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: Arlo on March 27, 2003, 11:47:38 PM

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/kornet/

"Kornet E is the name given to the export version of the Russian Kornet missile system. The system, first shown in 1994, has been developed by the KBP Instrument Design Making Bureau, Tula, Russia and is in production and service with the Russian Army and has been sold to the Syrian Army."

 

(http://www.army-technology.com/projects/kornet/images/kornet7.jpg)

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: Toad on March 27, 2003, 11:48:35 PM

Just wondered as I've been reading here and there that the 3 Abrams were disabled by Kornets.

Don't think that's been proven as yet. They will probably have to capture some to confirm it. And then it will be denied, of course; someone will say we brought them in and "found" them ourselves.

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: Arlo on March 27, 2003, 11:50:14 PM

Of course ... it could always be said Syria resold them. Not any better but it leaves an out for Russia.

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: Toad on March 28, 2003, 12:00:19 AM

Yeah, Syria reportedly got 1000 of them. And they might well have sold them to Iraq. Or just been a front for the comi$$ion from the Russians.

Nothing will ever be proven, I'm sure.

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: Pongo on March 28, 2003, 12:05:11 AM

1000 firing posts or 1000 rounds?
If its firing posts that could be problematic.

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: Toad on March 28, 2003, 12:14:49 AM

This is probably the most detailed "conservative estimate" reference I have seen:

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So far, Russia and Syria have signed one major arms export contract for the supply of 1000 "Metis-M" (NATO designation AT-13) and "Kornet-E" (AT-14) anti-tank missiles worth $138 million ($73 million and $65 million, respectively).

And even that's not very definitive. Hard to tell. Other sites just say "1000 Kornet missiles".

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: Toad on March 28, 2003, 12:22:24 AM

Yep.

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: akak on March 28, 2003, 12:33:07 AM

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Originally posted by Arlo
Of course ... it could always be said Syria resold them. Not any better but it leaves an out for Russia.

The most likely scenario is that Syria acted as the 3rd party go between for Russia to supply these weapons to Iraq.  Which were most likely paid with money from the 'Oil to food' program.  


ack-ack

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: Toad on March 28, 2003, 12:34:50 AM

Maybe we can get mad at the Syrians then. ;) SOMEBODY sold 'em.

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: lord dolf vader on March 28, 2003, 12:45:29 AM

armor penetration 1,200 mm

range  100 to 5,500 m

active thermal sighting


basicly designed to kill m1 abrams pretty much. no?

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: Toad on March 28, 2003, 12:54:12 AM

Probably the only good news I heard about it was that while the tanks were disabled, no crew were killed. Doubt that will last.

Shots from the rear and side.

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: Toad on March 28, 2003, 01:16:52 AM

Good. Tanks can be replaced.

Title: Anyone know in-service date of Russian Cornet Anti-tank missile?
Post by: Vermillion on March 28, 2003, 07:33:20 AM

And most of the tanks can be fixed and returned to the front pretty quickly.