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Title: Vandalism
Post by: Martlet on March 28, 2003, 08:42:16 AM
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/world/1837677
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 28, 2003, 08:48:43 AM
A stationary, inanimate target and the French still lose.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Martlet on March 28, 2003, 08:51:01 AM
I was sad to see they also vandalised the 9/11 memorial.  I don't know what message that was supposed to send.  Perhaps "We support terrorism, even against our own people"?
Title: Vandalism
Post by: ra on March 28, 2003, 09:05:05 AM
10% of French are Muslims, and growing.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: straffo on March 28, 2003, 09:05:24 AM
How can expand the acts of one or more individual to the whole population ?
Title: Vandalism
Post by: hawk220 on March 28, 2003, 09:14:39 AM
this is pretty weak.. I can understand the outrage as Americans have been piling the Merde pretty high with our boycotts of French products, but the French lost people on 9/11 so trashing the memorial dishonors their memories too.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 28, 2003, 09:16:42 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
How can expand the acts of one or more individual to the whole population ?


This would be a good question to ask the Frenchies that did this, non?
Title: Vandalism
Post by: straffo on March 28, 2003, 09:19:32 AM
how can you say it's french citizen ?

why can't it be an Us student for exemple ?
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Martlet on March 28, 2003, 09:20:13 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
how can you say it's french citizen ?

why can't it be an Us student for exemple ?



LOL, keep stretching
Title: Vandalism
Post by: straffo on March 28, 2003, 09:20:49 AM
why ?

you don't have prettythang-hole in the US ?
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Martlet on March 28, 2003, 09:22:40 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
why ?

you don't have prettythang-hole in the US ?


keep stretching
Title: Vandalism
Post by: straffo on March 28, 2003, 09:24:06 AM
untill anyone is proven guilty it can be anyone no ?
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Dowding on March 28, 2003, 09:25:09 AM
In one thread we have US protesters with a banner that said "We support our troops if they shoot their officers" and lots of condemnation and general gnashing of teeth.

In this thread we have people saying there are no nobheads in the US.

Interesting.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Martlet on March 28, 2003, 09:26:53 AM
who said there are no knobheads in the US?

Keep making up your own facts.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: texace on March 28, 2003, 09:29:06 AM
Yeah, we've got *******s in America, but I challenge you to name off one who'd be willing to deface a 9/11 memorial. Had something like that happened in the States the person that did it wouldn't have a chance to be arrested before he was beaten to death.

As Martlet says...keep stretching. Trying to pass the blame off on Americans is amusing...
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Dowding on March 28, 2003, 09:29:39 AM
You seemed to be disagreeing with Straffo's assertion that there are A-holes in the US. What else did you mean by your post?

That banner was far more offensive than some vandalism of an inanimate miniture statue.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: straffo on March 28, 2003, 09:32:38 AM
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Originally posted by texace
Trying to pass the blame off on Americans is amusing...


Wrong interpretation of my post.

I just pointed it can be anyone even an american (even if it's not likely it's not impossible in theory)
Title: Vandalism
Post by: texace on March 28, 2003, 09:33:20 AM
I was not disagreeing with the a-holes part. I said there are a-holes in America. I've seen the banners and I've seen the damage done by some protestors.

I was refering to the fact that he was trying to pass off the damage to American citizens...
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Martlet on March 28, 2003, 09:33:30 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
You seemed to be disagreeing with Straffo's assertion that there are A-holes in the US. What else did you mean by your post?

That banner was far more offensive than some vandalism of an inanimate miniture statue.


I was disagreeing with his insinuation that an American student possibly defaced the 9/11 memorial.  Pretty far fetched.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Dowding on March 28, 2003, 09:36:16 AM
I see. But if people are willing to promote the murder of their officers, surely they might also deface a 911 memorial? You've got to admit it's not impossible. Unlikely, true, but as Straffo says, not impossible.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: straffo on March 28, 2003, 09:38:10 AM
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Originally posted by Martlet
I was disagreeing with his insinuation that an American student possibly defaced the 9/11 memorial.  Pretty far fetched.


I disagree with your interpretation it's a french citizen who   made that.

In fact I'll disagree until it's proven.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Martlet on March 28, 2003, 09:38:28 AM
Of course it's not impossible.  It's far more than "unlikely" though.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Martlet on March 28, 2003, 09:39:34 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
I disagree with your interpretation it's a french citizen who   made that.

In fact I'll disagree until it's proven.


Of course you will, I expected no less.  :)

Go stick your head back in the sand like a good little boy, Chirac will be along shortly to give you your next thought.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: texace on March 28, 2003, 09:42:57 AM
Martlet: 1
straffo: 0

This is getting interesting...
Title: Vandalism
Post by: straffo on March 28, 2003, 09:45:23 AM
It's more a 0/0 I don't take it personnal.

even with the sand comment which was ... "surprenant" and "incompréhensible"
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Martlet on March 28, 2003, 09:48:18 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
It's more a 0/0



Of course you think that, I expected no less.  

I wish I could find a copy of the CNN interview with some french politician with a name I can't spell and a title to match.  I'm sure he felt he held his own in that interview as well.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: straffo on March 28, 2003, 09:48:45 AM
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Originally posted by Martlet
Of course it's not impossible.  It's far more than "unlikely" though.

What word should I have used so to translate "improbable" ?
Title: Vandalism
Post by: straffo on March 28, 2003, 09:50:12 AM
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Originally posted by Martlet
Of course you think that, I expected no less.  

I wish I could find a copy of the CNN interview with some french politician with a name I can't spell and a title to match.  I'm sure he felt he held his own in that interview as well.


How can you affirm I'm agreeing with him without knowing me ?
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Martlet on March 28, 2003, 09:51:47 AM
agreeing with who?
Title: Vandalism
Post by: straffo on March 28, 2003, 09:52:30 AM
oups misquoted I was thinking of Chirac.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 28, 2003, 10:09:44 AM
ROFL - I go away for ten minutes and this happens!

In one corner, we have Straffo, an individual bent on claiming that Frenchmen did not deface a French statue representing America in France.  Instead, he believes that disgruntled American students hopped a plane to Paris in order to defile a French 9/11 memorial when they could just as soon do it in their own country.

In the other corner, we have Martlet, often a reserved voice on these boards, sticking to his guns and using calm, calculated tactics to slowly unravel the arguments of those who oppose him.  Defeat seems unlikely for this man.

And in the middle we have Dowding.  Dowding has entered the ring with one goal in mind.  Debate an issue until its clear youre losing, then attempt to confuse the opposition by means of subject changes and general open ended questioning.

This should be a good one folks.  My money's on Martlet... Iceman Martlet.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Dowding on March 28, 2003, 10:24:48 AM
I misunderstood Martlet as saying there are no tards in in the US, and therefore pointed out that was definitely not true.

'General open ended questioning'. That's a very vague and non-specific term, you've generated there.

I also see you are grand-standing again, attacking the person rather than any issue. Which is consistent. Fortunately, most of the time, those in the ring can ignore the crowd.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: CptTrips on March 28, 2003, 10:49:05 AM
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In one corner, we have Straffo, an individual bent on claiming that Frenchmen did not deface a French statue representing America in France. Instead, he believes that disgruntled American students hopped a plane to Paris in order to defile a French 9/11 memorial when they could just as soon do it in their own country.


LoL.    

Occam's razor.


Wab
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 28, 2003, 11:10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding

I also see you are grand-standing again, attacking the person rather than any issue. Which is consistent. Fortunately, most of the time, those in the ring can ignore the crowd.


Bah, I attack both people and issues, variety is the spice of life.  I like you Dowding, I went to school with an aweful lot of people like you.  They dont attack the person or the issue - they attack whatever isnt entirely related or defended.

In terms of ignoring the crowd, wouldnt that be a little too Bush-like for your tastes?
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Dowding on March 28, 2003, 12:07:25 PM
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They dont attack the person or the issue - they attack whatever isnt entirely related or defended.


'Entirely' is a very relative term.

Somparing yourself to Bush? Doesn't be so harsh on yourself mate! ;)

Bush doesn't ignore the crowd. He's a politician.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: straffo on March 28, 2003, 02:04:07 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
In one corner, we have Straffo, an individual bent on claiming that Frenchmen did not deface a French statue representing America in France.  Instead, he believes that disgruntled American students hopped a plane to Paris in order to defile a French 9/11 memorial when they could just as soon do it in their own country.


Nice way to twist reality.

This is true only in your dreams.

Your interpretation is completly idiot.
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Furball on March 28, 2003, 02:18:06 PM
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Yeah, we've got *******s in America, but I challenge you to name off one who'd be willing to deface a 9/11 memorial.


wasnt there an american fighting for the taliban? proves anythings possible really
Title: Vandalism
Post by: Scootter on March 28, 2003, 02:29:03 PM
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Originally posted by ra
10% of French are Muslims, and growing.



Are you saying all Muslims are Vandals??

I don’t understand your comments

We have a large Muslim population also and I find them to be peaceful and wonderful friends and neighbors.

I find fanatics however to be the loud and dangerous minority no matter who they are or what they are fanatic about.