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Title: did the prince of darkness cause the friendly fire incident..
Post by: lazs2 on March 30, 2003, 09:52:10 AM
Yep... ol joe  lucas... the prince of darkness... did he have anyrthing to do with the IFF system electonics in the tornado?
lazs
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Post by: john9001 on March 30, 2003, 10:19:03 AM
i thought the english used Bosch electonics now?
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Post by: funkedup on March 30, 2003, 10:36:54 AM
Tragically, Lucas IS a player in military avionics and actuation.  And I believe there are Lucas systems on the Tornado as well as things like Airbus.

"If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going."
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Post by: Furball on March 30, 2003, 11:29:45 AM
i find it hard to believe that the Tornado's IFF system failed. if it had wouldnt it have been shot down earlier by some marauding coalition fighter jock looking for a kill? or vectored onto by awacs?

Whats your thoughts on this?
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Post by: Dowding on March 30, 2003, 12:15:22 PM
The Patriot fired on two tornados, flying in close formation back to base. One took evasive action, the missile missed it and it struck the following plane.

Who is Joe Lucas?

And why the automatic assumption that the Tornado systems are at fault?

I seem to remember an F-16 also being targetted by a Patriot, before being blown to smithereens. It's a shame the Tornado crew didn't do the same, given that the launcher is a good distance away from the crew that mans it.
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Post by: N1kPaz on March 30, 2003, 01:53:49 PM
yeh...them pilots should be given permission to smack any missile systems targeting them. friendly or otherwise.
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Post by: Raubvogel on March 30, 2003, 02:38:02 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding

Who is Joe Lucas?

 


Some genius who makes awesome electrical systems for cars. :D
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Post by: Dowding on March 30, 2003, 03:22:52 PM
Are you alluding to that electrical fault that caused cars to explode if they had the indicator on and were hit from the rear?

I can't be arsed to get out google. :D
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Post by: john9001 on March 30, 2003, 03:53:08 PM
no Dowding, i worked on british cars in 60's ,70's and 80's and the lucas electrical parts were not of very high quality, but i did make a lot of money replacing them.
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Post by: -tronski- on March 30, 2003, 06:32:34 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
The Patriot fired on two tornados, flying in close formation back to base. One took evasive action, the missile missed it and it struck the following plane.

Who is Joe Lucas?

And why the automatic assumption that the Tornado systems are at fault?

I seem to remember an F-16 also being targetted by a Patriot, before being blown to smithereens. It's a shame the Tornado crew didn't do the same, given that the launcher is a good distance away from the crew that mans it.


Joe lucas: Minor Mania (http://www.minormania.com/html/funstuff_lucas.html)

 Tronsky
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Post by: Nash on March 30, 2003, 06:51:26 PM
Lol tronski - love this one:

"I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have never experienced any prob..."
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Post by: Hangtime on March 30, 2003, 06:58:51 PM
The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."

If Lucas made guns, wars would not start.

A friend of mine told everybody he never had any electric problems with his Lucas equipment. Today he lives in the countryside, in a large manor with lots of friendly servants around him an an occasional ice cold shower...

Recommended procedure before taking on a repair of Lucas equipment: Check the position of the stars,kill a chicken and walk three times clockwise around your car chanting:" Oh mighty Prince of Darkness protect your unworthy servant.."
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Post by: Hangtime on March 30, 2003, 07:00:05 PM
(http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/Humor/fuses1.jpg)
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Post by: funkedup on March 30, 2003, 08:02:25 PM
Electrical Theory by Joseph Lucas
Positive ground depends upon proper circuit functioning, the transmission of negative ions by retention of the visible spectral manifestation known as "smoke". Smoke is the thing that makes electrical circuits work; we know this to be true because every time one lets the smoke out of the electrical system, it stops working._ This can be verified repeatedly through empirical testing._ When, for example, the smoke escapes from an electrical component (i.e., say, a Lucas voltage regulator), it will be observed that the component stops working. The function of the wire harness is to carry the smoke from one device to another; when the wire harness "springs a leak", and lets all the smoke out of the system, nothing works afterwards. Starter motors were frowned upon in British Automobiles for some time, largely because they consume large quantities of smoke, requiring very large wires.
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Post by: funkedup on March 30, 2003, 08:03:13 PM
Underlying Philosophy of Lucas Products:  "A gentleman does not motor about after dark."
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Post by: lazs2 on March 31, 2003, 08:49:13 AM
If you can't see out your windsheild without wipers going then it is too wet out to be driving.    Besides.... who would need wipers in england?
lazs
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Post by: Angus on March 31, 2003, 09:26:15 AM
Been driving tractors with Lucas starters for about 30 years, - they are actually quite ok.
Have a 19 year old tractor outside (its never been housed) with a fully operable Lucas starter which has never failed!
However, when tractor manufacturer Massey-Ferguson switched from Lucas to an Italian manufacturer, all hell broke loose.
I have a 6 year old tractor with one of those, it's had about 13 overhauls and 2 or 3 replacements!
Maybe the Tornado had some Italian stuff?!?!?!?!:D
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Post by: Sikboy on March 31, 2003, 09:32:00 AM
hehe, I was just working on my Spitfire with a friend (who is quite a spitfire fanatic) and his contention is that it's all about the connectors when it comes to Lucas systems. I don't know though. It just wouldn't seem right if ALL of my lights worked ALL of the time.

-Sik