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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: fscott on March 30, 2001, 02:08:00 AM
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First, I really don't care for the background cloud layer. I can just hear the WB crowd laughing at us.
(http://corn555.tripod.com/1.jpg)
Second, I have had 5 ctd's tonite with no more than an hour's worth of flying. This is ridiculous. HT please give us patch 1 again.
Third, what's the deal with all the new "imaginative" squad names like the joker shown above? Have I started something that cannot be stopped?
fscott
[This message has been edited by fscott (edited 03-30-2001).]
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OH BOY MACRO TIME ,, that'll bring in some aw3 guys
its all your fault fscott (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Paint.. did you have to say that? Don't give people any ideas.
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Midnight
13th TAS[/i]
midnight@13thtas.com
"You tell them I'm coming.. And Hell's coming with me!" -Kurt Russel Tombstone
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kinda like "Showtime" ? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by fscott:
First, I really don't care for the background cloud layer. I can just hear the WB crowd laughing at us.
Well... You are being a jerk. Why would the WB crowd be laughing? Because they have a beta sim with crappy looking planes, poor flight models and a huge download? Maybe it's those ungodly tracers they have. So what if the clouds over there are a little better looking.
The clouds look fine when you are in them, over them or under them. It's just a little blocky whre it transitions. Give it time, I am sure HTC will make it look prettier. Right now, the gameplay issues are the fish I would like to see them fry.
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Midnight
13th TAS[/i]
midnight@13thtas.com
"You tell them I'm coming.. And Hell's coming with me!" -Kurt Russel Tombstone
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1. What do you care what the Wbs crowd thinks of us.
2. The internet is not a perfect science.
3. No you did not invent humor...Al Gore did ;-)
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Well, we have a FAF G-2 with correct historical markings. Something that the WB players will never have. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Camo
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where they might be required to demonstrate their superior skill."
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Give me a bloody break. fscott, who once had a squad named "The Nightly News with Tom Brokaw", is now complaining about stupid squad names?
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Mickey
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[This message has been edited by Mickey1992 (edited 03-30-2001).]
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WarBirds used to have a FAF with markings back in version 2.01 I think. Don't know why it was removed.
The tracer effects in WBIII are placeholder effects, so I wouldn't compare them to anything. The WB III plane models are beautiful, not crappy. What are you looking at?
The patch 2 cloud effects are, well, better than before. They're getting closer. The first release definitely had a alpha look to it, and this one looks to be more beta-like. Still not there yet, but much closer.
AH still has a LOT of features over WB (solid connex being one most take for granted here), and probably has 6 months or more of development time before we can really make valid comparisons and judgements.
It'll really get interesting this summer, with WB III out and WWII Online available. Personally, I think AH will be alright - just keep cranking out the late-war planes and vehicles no one else has. Add landing craft and seaplanes, air-sea rescue and nightfighters. There are a lot of ways AH can stay ahead of WBs, even if WBIII is better graphically. Relax and enjoy the competition - we're the ones that benefit.
I remember the WBs crowd bashing AH when it first came out too, and that was equally unfair.
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I climbed up into the cloud at 36 last night in a jug. I thought the lighting arround the edge of the cloud as looked at from under the cloud was excellent. I could see the shadow of the cloud approaching the airfield. I climbed out of the top of the cloud and was delighted to break into the big open blue sky. I cruised above the cloud towards 43 looking for the contact that was making a bar in the area. I passed again over the edge of the cloud formation and was again pleased with the look of the transition. Very cool.
I saw a dot below the cloud following me out.
Turned arround just as the con revealed itself to be an Ardo heading towards me but considerably lower. I punched the tank on my Jug 30 and droped the nose to try to get a shot.Back into the murk as I moved towards the cons 6 I missjudged his speed and blew past him diving. Then I pulled up and missed him again on the climb. I got on his rear quarter at about 600 and gave him a long shot. Just as he lit up from the direct sun. Looked increadable and then I could see him clearly and then I was in the sun too.
I never caught him but he had to eject his eggs and head home.
We talked on channel 1 and he mentioned that he loved the new clouds as well.
When you first see them at the distance they still look a little cheesy but anywhere near them they look great.
I was near the edge of a formation later and could see white flashes That looked alot like lightning in a cloud. could have been a graphic anomoly though. I never saw it again...
I like the clouds!
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Not dis'ing WB's but their clouds remind me of EAW...
I much prefer AH clouds to dogfight in, some real gut-wrenching sorties in them!
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fscott - perhaps you and RAM could form a squad called:
"I have a very big mouth. And everyone knows it."
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Originally posted by Dowding:
fscott - perhaps you and RAM could form a squad called:
"I have a very big mouth. And everyone knows it."
hehe, once again I agree with Dowding (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
from a guy whose squad name has "You Suck" in it, you have no room to talk.
I like the clouds, better fr than the 1st time too. wtg AH
Eagler
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Cloud fighting was intense and I actually was able to fly thru them and not have problems. Color blindness and all. The only thing that made me mad was the DC's, but that will be fixed I am sure they will get on it asap, they have on everything else. Ligthning was awesome kept looking back and seeing flashes and wondered WTF was that? Scott you can name your squad of 2 whatever you want to, but in a given sense how old are you? To be honest I would be embarrassed to change the squad name every day. And they say class clowns don't succeed in life. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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It's amazing that everyone seems to be dodging the issue. No one even remarks about the screenshot and the very wierd blocky cloud layer looks like a picture tube.
Then everyone starts ranting how AH is so much better than WB. Not even my original point. It is in reference to the WB3 clouds. They are better, much better, wasn't even comparing WB to AH, just the cloud effect.
Then about the ctd's. One guy blames this on the internet? LOL, get real fella, Something in the patch is causing the CTD's and it ain't the "internet".
Finally, it is also amazing that some of you can't understand a simple joke about squad names. I am simply taking a "serious" thing like a squad name, which it seems like some will almost literally die for, and making fun of it. Relax.
fscott
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Fscott, doesn't look that way on my computer. Maybe your video card?
Edit: And/or settings?
[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 03-30-2001).]
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ok ,, I don't like the cloud cover (just my opinion ) even if it wasn't blocky and dark on clipboard map ,
and clowns scare me
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Rip, ya wanna post a screenshot? Cos clouds look exactly the same as Fscott's pic on my PC too......
that blue window out of the clouds is just plain weird.
(http://www.swoop.com/images/logo_small.jpg)
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I can tell by the white dots half way to the horizon that you're view is abbreviated and not set to "full".
-Westy
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Originally posted by Dowding:
fscott - perhaps you and RAM could form a squad called:
"I have a very big mouth. And everyone knows it."
lol yep. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by Swoop:
Rip, ya wanna post a screenshot? Cos clouds look exactly the same as Fscott's pic on my PC too......
that blue window out of the clouds is just plain weird.
I can't right now since I have no CPU (sold the 550 today, 800 comes tomorrow), however, this picture below is what my clouds look like on my FE : (Note-- no 'blockiness'...all very smooth transitions)
(http://taenia.homestead.com/files/ahss0.jpg)
[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 03-30-2001).]
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Originally posted by Westy:
I can tell by the white dots half way to the horizon that you're view is abbreviated and not set to "full".
-Westy
Good point Westy! I'll bet that 'Blockiness' does disappear when you use full resolution (F1)
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Westy said:
I can tell by the white dots half way to the horizon that you're view is abbreviated and not set to "full".
Westy, would you please explain the difference? Is this the F1 or F2 setting I've heard of before? I've never quite understood how that works, please explain.
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banana, SHIFT F1, F2 and F3 will give you a variance of resolution, F1 being highest, F3 being lowest, to compensate for slower cards/CPU's.
edit: ACES HIGH DEFAULTS TO F2 RES!! If you want the max. resolution, you must manually use SHIFT F1 when you log on.
[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 03-30-2001).]
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Thanks Ripsnort. That's exaclty what 1/2 the problem is IMO.
I also saw someone write that HiTech wasn't done playing around with this one version of the clouds that AH has.
-Westy
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Uhm, that's not resolution that the shift function keys do.. that's terrain drawing. The only difference it does is make the terrain further out have a higher polygon count. Has nothing to do with the clouds, just how far out the terrain draws.
Now, on my system the clouds transition very smoothly... I think it just *may* have something to do with the fact I run in 32bit. (note the sarcasm)
-SW
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fscott screenshot looks like he was under the clouds more where Rip's looks like he was on the edge of the front. Don't see a problem with either myself. Glad AH took the time and energy to address the issue. Now we need rain to running off the windscreen and make locating icons almost impossible (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Eagler
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Um....Rip.
In your pic, look just up and left of where Griz is.......that block right there. There's the blockiness we're talking about (bloody hell! I'm actually agreeing with Fscott!).
When ya get yr new chip......fly towards a cloud bank and look around with the pan view......a big blue square will be in the centre of your view, always, until you're well within the cloud bank.
(http://www.swoop.com/images/logo_small.jpg)
[This message has been edited by Swoop (edited 03-30-2001).]
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You get real Fscott...I simply inferred that the possibility existed that it was a net problem. You invented your own interpretation.
BTW it's a concept called benefit of the doubt, beyond the grasp of a true whiner.
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Let me clarify that its not my pic, but similiar to what I see.
Good to know this isn't a 'final' version of the clouds.
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Moot point now. Pyro and company just gave us ALL the tool with which to do it ourselves.
-Westy
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Edited msg!
[This message has been edited by Thunder (edited 03-30-2001).]
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OPPS fscott I owe you and the community an apology! There is a SWASTIKA on the G2..never knew that! DOH! I Still don't like um ... hope everyone forgives me!
Thunder
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Thunder..With all respect.That swastika You see on the G-2 is NOT in ANY way related to the NSDAP one.This blue swastika was used by a Swedish Count Von Rosen as a lucky emblem long BEFORE the little crazy man even dreamt of being the ruler of half the world.And it was painted on FAF's first A/C Morane Parasol back 1918.Note also that this swastika lies on its side and the other one stands on it's tip and is black.So I don't see any problem it being there for historical accuracy..and ain't that what we ant here? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)More info can be found if You read the story of this emblem form LLv34 homepages,link in the signature.
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No reason the Finns should have to rewrite there history because of the unfortunate cooincidence of the nazis using an insignia that the FAF used.
FScott. From very far distances the clouds do look worse. And from some angles they dont look as good as from others. They arent perfect. But the effect can be spectacular. And holds lots of promise for what can be done.
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You guys wanna see REAL clouds in a sim? If you have FS2000 then download a demo of FSClouds. It expands on FS2000's clouds to make some of the most realistic effects I've seen. Much better than even WB3 clouds. And when you fly into the clouds, you actually see the whisps wisking by your aircraft, rather than a solid grayout as we have in AH.
(http://www.flight1.com/images/fsc2k/nice1.jpg)
It would be nice if that effect could be done in AH, but perhaps the engines are too different.
fscott
[This message has been edited by fscott (edited 03-30-2001).]
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Thunder..
The Finnish cross is called the Rosen Cross, nothin to do with the ego maniac who wanted to extermiate everyone and claim the world as his.
It was being used long before Germany picked it up..
Dog out..........
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Originally posted by AKSeaWulfe:
Uhm, that's not resolution that the shift function keys do.. that's terrain drawing. The only difference it does is make the terrain further out have a higher polygon count. Has nothing to do with the clouds, just how far out the terrain draws.
Now, on my system the clouds transition very smoothly... I think it just *may* have something to do with the fact I run in 32bit. (note the sarcasm)
-SW
Switch between Shift F1 and shift F2 from outside the cloudbank. I have always seen a difference in the clouds at least from the exterior between the 2 view settings.
SKurj
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Ok, against my better judgement...
How many players you have on FS2000 at once? What is the frame rate? I know you don't feel that we should be concerned about lower-end machines, but I suspect you can't get 200 people into FS2000 at once (at least, not in the same game), and if you did I am pretty sure there would be a price in fps.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for pretty- if I get good performance. Performance is far more important to gameplay than comparing what graphic feature your game has compared to "theirs". Don't twist this to mean I am against improvements in all aspects of the game, but your opening of course illicited a reaction from many. FWIW I like the clouds right now.
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I like them , <S> HTC
spro