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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Pongo on March 31, 2003, 11:05:16 AM
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from radio intercepts supposedly.
clearing house (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2480.htm)
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jeez...i guess were gonna lose then huh??
NOT!!!
LOL
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We are only winning if you are watching the CNN propaganda. In reality, The Elite Republican Army has D.C. surrounded.
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Russian Radio Intercepts report as follows:
March 31, 2002 GMT
The Glorious weapons of the Peoples Republic of Russia once again defeated Yankee Pig-Dog aggression in the area of Gofuk.
The powerful, advanced T-55 Main Battle tank, placed in the capable hands of the Iraqi's has thwarted all Capitalist Pig aggession, destroying 350 M1 Abrams, 4,607 APC, All the Artilery Pieces in the Middle East, 1100 Aircraft, 4 Aircraft Carriers, and 11 Bicycles.
Iraqi forces have overun Capitalist Pig-Dog positions, and have pushed them back into the sea.
Another glorious victory for the military equiptment of Mother Russia!
:eek:
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If to shoot at a lateral projection M1A1, punches and T-34-85 :)
And in a frontal projection it punch ZBM-26 (1983) and ZBM-32 (1984)
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Originally posted by --am--
If to shoot at a lateral projection M1A1, punches and T-34-85 :)
And in a frontal projection it punch ZBM-26 (1983) and ZBM-32 (1984)
Stop using babelfish.
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Originally posted by Martlet
Stop using babelfish.
You are incompetent (as usually)
Read and be educated:
http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/policy/du/du_e.pdf
http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/policy/du/du_c.pdf
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i think what -am- is trying to say is a WW2 T34 could kill a M1A1,
a T34 is in no threat way to M1A1 , it's just reduciles
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Wonder why we haven't seen any close ups of obviously destroyed M1s? You know, the sort of pictures that leave no doubt as to the serviceability of the vehicle. Makes me go hmmmm.
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Fox News..
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82613,00.html
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Originally posted by AKIron
Wonder why we haven't seen any close ups of obviously destroyed M1s? You know, the sort of pictures that leave no doubt as to the serviceability of the vehicle.
you mean the blury out of focus pics of a "M1A1"? burning didn't convince you?
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The link I posted doenst say the US is going to lose..
Did you people even read it?
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Originally posted by Pongo
The link I posted doenst say the US is going to lose..
Did you people even read it?
No, I don't waste my time reading things certain people post on here. If I want more propaganda, I'll catch the Peter Arnett re runs.
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Originally posted by Pongo
The link I posted doenst say the US is going to lose..
Did you people even read it?
I got this far before the BS meter pegged:
-- meeting was held at the main headquarters, at which an analysis of the maintenance status of the force was presented. In a personal telephone conversation with a colleague in the U.S., one of the meeting participants described that status as "deplorable," and in his words, "...one third of our equipment can be fearlessly taken to the dump.--
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Did you people even read it?
That's a forlorn hope. Right there.
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yup
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Did people acctually think that the US would lose no vehicles in this war? Your so offended that one company out of all the units there might have lost 5 of its tracks to total mechanical break down...hell that can happen on a summer exercise...
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Pongo... a lot of Americans thought this war would be over by now.
I had people yelling at me when I expressed my doubt over this before it started.
Almost got into a fight over it !! unreal
There are still tons of people here that think all the negative reports are lies. :confused:
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Russian assessment on war situation
LOL who cares what the russians think.
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Originally posted by Pongo
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Did people acctually think that the US would lose no vehicles in this war? Your so offended that one company out of all the units there might have lost 5 of its tracks to total mechanical break down...hell that can happen on a summer exercise...
I'm offended by lies. Particularly when the point of them is to demoralize. The article you posted is an unsubstantiated attempt to do just that. Do you really believe that 1/3 of the US assault force is ready for the "dump"?
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LMAO!!! thank you!
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Russian Radio Intercepts report as follows:
March 31, 2002 GMT
The Glorious weapons of the Peoples Republic of Russia once again defeated Yankee Pig-Dog aggression in the area of Gofuk.
:eek:
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Russian Radio Intercepts report as follows:
March 31, 2002 GMT
The Glorious weapons of the Peoples Republic of Russia once again defeated Yankee Pig-Dog aggression in the area of Gofuk.
The powerful, advanced T-55 Main Battle tank, placed in the capable hands of the Iraqi's has thwarted all Capitalist Pig aggession, destroying 350 M1 Abrams, 4,607 APC, All the Artilery Pieces in the Middle East, 1100 Aircraft, 4 Aircraft Carriers, and 11 Bicycles.
Iraqi forces have overun Capitalist Pig-Dog positions, and have pushed them back into the sea.
Another glorious victory for the military equiptment of Mother Russia! Russian Radio Intercepts report as follows:
From the people that brought you IL2-Forgotten Battels..LOL
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A meeting was held at the main headquarters, at which an analysis of the maintenance status of the force was presented. In a personal telephone conversation with a colleague in the U.S., one of the meeting participants described that status as "deplorable," and in his words, "...one third of our equipment can be fearlessly taken to the dump. We are holding on thanks only to round-the-clock repairs. Our heroes aren't the marines at the front but the "worms" in the repair companies. Without them we'd be fighting from the backs of camels long ago."
Hes talking about just his unit..not the whole coalition force.
I dont doubt for a minute that the armour that pushed the closest to bagdad has taken lots of incedental damage and has seen unservicable rates that are at least 30%. Anyone that has ever worked arround tracked armour would I think accept that as a reasonable number for a unit that is so far from its logistical bases. Second line maintenace for those point units is in Kuwait. Anything that needs second line would be left sitting.
They were towing 113s along on the advance in the first day...thats what happens to tracks..
I am not saying that this whole thing is correct. But it certainly has more of the flavour of what that war is like then what is showing up on the TV.
I dont see anything in that link that is extraordinary.
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Originally posted by Pongo
...I am not saying that this whole thing is correct. But it certainly has more of the flavour of what that war is like then what is showing up on the TV.
I dont see anything in that link that is extraordinary...
...but it has no credibility. GRU sources. Come on is Russia so stupid as to have an intelligence arm giving war reports to the public. Sources could be inferred from that kind of stupid thing.
Crap, alot of the people on this board could write convincing fictional war reports.
Look at the start page for that web site. In my opinion, the guy is a kook.
Kook's don't make for good sources.
F.
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The coelition has made lots of comercial satelite lines available to the troops to call home. Those lines are totaly insecure. These are tidbits garnered from that trafic.
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Originally posted by Pongo
The coelition has made lots of comercial satelite lines available to the troops to call home. Those lines are totaly insecure. These are tidbits garnered from that trafic.
every time you post, you show your stupidity even more.
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Originally posted by Pongo
The coelition has made lots of comercial satelite lines available to the troops to call home. Those lines are totaly insecure. These are tidbits garnered from that trafic.
Why do you believe this "information" to be real?
From another sight containing the exact same information.
"The IRAQWAR.RU analytical center was created recently by a group of journalists and military experts from Russia to provide accurate and up-to-date news and analysis of the war against Iraq. The following is the English translation of the IRAQWAR.RU report based on the Russian military intelligence reports.."
Is it a report on a GRU report by "journalists and military experts"?
Personally, I don't believe this information is being disseminated by the russian government much less a military intelligence service.
That is not to say some of it is not correct, I just don't by the GRU angle.
F.
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Originally posted by Otto
Fox News..
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82613,00.html
From the article:
"That was cool, even though they didn't have anything big that could [hurt] us," said Ivings, the gunner. "It was like we walked into their living room and said, 'Bring it on!"'
Job well done it seems. I take it there was a journalist present? I'm glad there were no deaths in that engagement.
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Originally posted by Martlet
every time you post, you show your stupidity even more.
you would think it says
"US marines eat Iraqi babys" by the way your reacting.
It is saying that the US has taken about 5% tank casualties in a week and a half of fighting...wow.
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I'm curious only because I don't know, but have read about/heard from a primary source of someone who was there that in previous wars censors were very aggressive with every communication lower ranked soldiers made.
Letters would frequently have certain things blacked out with marker to prevent any remote possibility of the enemy having any information, and on the phone military personnel were under strict guidelines of what could and could not be said. I'd think what could not be said would be things that would give the enemy an idea of strength, losses, movements, positions, etc.
If this is true, then what could unsecure lines yield in terms of information anyway?
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Originally posted by Pongo
you would think it says
"US marines eat Iraqi babys" by the way your reacting.
It is saying that the US has taken about 5% tank casualties in a week and a half of fighting...wow.
Again you show your ignorance. I even quoted what I was talking about, and you attach my words to a completely different post.
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Martlet sounds like that french guy on the castle wall in Monty Pythons holly grail.
I know I know..again I have shown my ignorance..
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March 31, 2003
Nine Marines died, eight missing in March 23 attempt to rescue POWs
By Diana Washington Valdez
El Paso (Texas) Times
Marines were sent to rescue wounded members of the 507th Maintenance Company on March 23, the day the Fort Bliss unit was attacked in Iraq, but nine of the Marines who took part in the rescue effort were killed and eight others are missing, Pentagon officials said Sunday.
U.S. military officials also confirmed that the four bodies discovered a few days ago in shallow graves are of American troops, but have still not determined the branch of the military in which the troops served, much less their names.
“They have not been identified yet,” Navy Lt. Cmdr. Charles Owens, spokesman for U.S. Central Command, said Sunday from Doha, Qatar.
Owens also said Iraqi paramilitary forces known as Fedayeen were involved in the attack against the 507th Maintenance Company that left two of the 507th soldiers dead, four wounded, five captured and eight missing.
Sunday is the first time U.S. military officials revealed that Marines conducted a search-and-rescue operation to recover the wounded Army soldiers. All but one of the missing Marines was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, from Camp Lejeune, N.C.
A U.S. Mortuary Affairs team was sent to investigate the site of the graves near Nasiriyah, which is in the general area where the attack occurred.
“The Iraqi paramilitary or irregular forces includes the hit squads and the Fedayeen that are loyal to Saddam Hussein,” Owens said Sunday. “They are the ones that attacked the maintenance supply convoy.” Coalition commanders said the Fedayeen were trying to cut the American supply lines reaching back to Kuwait.
Among the 507th’s wounded are Spc. James Grubb of El Paso, and Cpl. Damien Luten of Indianapolis. Luten was shown in widely distributed photographs last week with a teddy bear tied to his stretcher as he was being taken to Walter Reed Army Hospital in Washington, D.C.
He told his mother, in a story published in the Indianapolis Star on Sunday, that a group of Marines saved him and some other members of the 507th. “A couple of guys got shot up pretty bad,” he told her.
A memorial service was held Sunday near Checkpoint Charlie south of Najaf for the two members of the 507th who were killed when their convoy made a wrong turn and drove into an area controlled by the Saddam loyalists. Spc. Jamaal Addison, 22, of Atlanta, and Pfc. Howard Johnson, 20, of Mobile, Ala., were killed.
“One week ago, things went terribly wrong,” said the chaplain, Capt. Scott Koeman. Consoling the troops, he said, “Death comes hand in hand with war.”
Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks, with the U.S. Central Command, said Fedayeen have changed in and out of uniform, used civilians, including children, as human shields, and were forcing Iraqi regular troops to fight on threats of death. U.S. troops who are moving toward Baghdad have run into strong resistance from these Iraqi paramilitary fighters.
Relatives of the Fort Bliss soldiers who are missing or are POWs said it’s hard to deal with not knowing what has become of their loved ones.
“Because the Red Cross has not been able to get in there, we don’t know how they’re doing,” said Claude Johnson, father of Spc. Shoshana Johnson, 30, of El Paso, one of the POWs. “I know she’s alive from the videotape and pictures that were shown, but I wish I knew more.”
The International Committee for the Red Cross reported on its Web site Sunday that heavy bombing shook its offices in Baghdad. The Red Cross has been trying to gain access to the POWs since news of their capture aired last week.
The Iraqi government videotaped the 507th soldiers who were captured and also showed what were reported to be the bodies of U.S. soldiers. High-ranking U.S. military officials who viewed the tape said it was possible that the soldiers were executed after attempting to surrender.
Phyllis Hudman, mother-in-law of Spc. Joseph Hudson of Alamogordo, said the soldier’s wife is in contact with the military daily, “but they don’t have any new information for her.”
“I’m sure it’s the same with all the families,” Hudman said. “Their hearts are breaking, just like ours.”
Hudson, 23, of the 507th, was among the five Fort Bliss soldiers who were captured by the Iraqis on March 23. He was one of the soldiers who was interviewed and videotaped by the Iraqi government.
Alamogordo residents took part in a rally Sunday night to show support for Hudson and the rest of the troops in the war.
Ronald Voltz, a retired Navy veteran who organized the rally, said Alamogordo residents were asked to flash lights, wave U.S. flags, honk car horns or use other noisemakers. The city proclaimed Sunday as “Support our Troops/POW/MIA Day.”
“We’re doing this for the young man from Alamogordo who is being held as a POW in Iraq and for his family,” Voltz said. “We have a lot of kids from all over the world in the war who are away from home.”
Randy Kiehl of Comfort, Texas, father of Spc. James Kiehl, one of the 507th members who are missing, said he searches the Internet constantly and watches as much television coverage as possible for any information about his son or his unit.
Two Army officials visited his home Wednesday regarding his son, but “they did not have any more news other than what we already knew.”
Randy Kiehl said there are 1,500 people in Comfort, Texas, “and I think I’ve heard from all of them. ... People are calling constantly to support us, and there are yellow ribbons everywhere.”
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Originally posted by Dune
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