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Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: BGBMAW on March 31, 2003, 12:03:31 PM

ATI 8500

Who has best drivers ..?o i just use ATI website drivers?

Seems like it should better..Dam Killing Panzers in Tiger town last nigth..and my frames are suking around 20 fps..


I have a p4 1.6


Dam thought i should be in the 50's all the time..


anyone else with this same card..and how is it workin for you?


Salute
BiGB
xoxo

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: Skuzzy on March 31, 2003, 02:54:42 PM

Used to have one in my home system BGB.  Not the fastest card around, but I never had any real problems with it.

I'll have to dig up what version of the ATI drivers I was using>  I never installed the Cat drivers.  I think I used the last one before the Catalyst drivers was available.
I'll see what I can find, when I get home.

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: BGBMAW on March 31, 2003, 03:18:52 PM

Skuzzy..i will love you like a gay brother if you help me:)


hehe..Salute

BiGB

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: Animal on March 31, 2003, 04:23:18 PM

That is actually a very nice video card.

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: Furious on March 31, 2003, 04:35:13 PM

Quote

Originally posted by BGBMAW
Skuzzy..i will love you like a gay brother if you help me:)...

That might be the most disturbing thing I have seen written on the BBS.

Title: Re: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: Ike 2K# on March 31, 2003, 10:17:42 PM

Quote

Originally posted by BGBMAW
ATI 8500

Who has best drivers ..?o i just use ATI website drivers?

Seems like it should better..Dam Killing Panzers in Tiger town last nigth..and my frames are suking around 20 fps..


I have a p4 1.6


Dam thought i should be in the 50's all the time..


anyone else with this same card..and how is it workin for you?


Salute
BiGB
xoxo

just look for the old CATALYST 2.5 drivers. 2.5 works best with my radeon 7500 PCI and maybe you should try the 2.5

just tell me your email adress and i will send you catalyst 2.5 if you want

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: Ghosth on March 31, 2003, 11:58:43 PM

What resolution you running?

I noticed a HUGE diff on my new Radeon 9000 Pro between 800x600 & 1024x768.

Plus planes are actually larger & easier to shoot in the lower res setting.

You don't "Need" to run 1600x1200 to have it look good.

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: Pongo on April 01, 2003, 12:07:07 AM

I have a 64mb DDR 8500..
Not estatic with it but its a year old now. I get 100 fps(monitor max) down to 60 or so in smoke.
thats on an 1800 athelon.

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: BGBMAW on April 01, 2003, 01:35:30 AM

dam pongo,,thts kikn mines ass...,,i need diff drivers i think..

my email is..

fmassive@cwnet.com



Thx Guys apreciate it

BiGB
xoxo


P.S. Gay brother thing is a joke..hehehe..just means .."alot of apreciation":D

my resolution is 1064x768

maybe its my mointor?? its goes up to 75htz..or opt imal setting..which ones is bettr?

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: Skuzzy on April 01, 2003, 06:54:55 AM

I was using tthe ATI driver version 5.13.01.6073.  It appears to be the last version before the Catalyst drivers were released.

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: vorticon on April 01, 2003, 09:29:39 AM

hmm...i would think it would do better...my gforce 2 MX runs the game at up to 85fps (monitor max)

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: BGBMAW on April 01, 2003, 01:26:10 PM

so are catalysts worse ? I really have very limited knowledge on "drivers-catalyts"..i know i need drivers to make softare work.. but thats baout it.
Where could i find that particualr driver Skuzzy....

and do i just delete,,my current Driver..go back to VGA thingy and just D/L new one?

ohh i just want to squeeze the trigger with smooth graphics:)


Salute
Thx

BiGB

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: Skuzzy on April 01, 2003, 01:37:02 PM

Go here: ATI's Find A Driver Link (http://mirror.ati.com/support/driver.html)

After putting the Operating System, and Card type, it will take you to a download page.

The page it takes you too, is the latest video driver for that card of yours.  At the bottom, you can look at 'Previous Drivers' and get the driver I listed above.

Follow the installation instructions at ATI's WEB site.

Basically, it involces a multi-step process.

1) Get the driver from ATI you want to install and put it in a spot on your local HD that you can remember.
2)  Go to the Windows Control Panel and open "Add/Remove Software"
3)  Find the ATI driver and display panel and remove them
4)  Reboot your computer
5)  At this time you should be in VGA mode.  Make sure your are.
6)  The run the file you downloaded from ATI.  It will install the drivers.
7)  Reboot, and you should be done.

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: BGBMAW on April 01, 2003, 01:47:28 PM

Skuzzy...many thanks..i will posts my results...


Salute
BiGB

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: lord dolf vader on April 01, 2003, 04:16:30 PM

i have the same card same proformance as pongo.


there is a le ( lower clock slower memory) version that is a lot less powerfull i think.

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: Skuzzy on April 01, 2003, 04:56:32 PM

That would be the LE and/or 128MB versions of the 8500.  Yes,..they are slower.  Not nearly as good as the 64MB version.

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: Griego on April 01, 2003, 08:47:35 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Pongo
I have a 64mb DDR 8500..
Not estatic with it but its a year old now. I get 100 fps(monitor max) down to 60 or so in smoke.
thats on an 1800 athelon.

 LOL what more do you want.

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: BGBMAW on April 22, 2003, 04:37:24 PM

ok Skuzzy ..i did it..but it dodnt have the drivere # you listed...maybe im blind...


So i D/ there lates driver...some improvemtn..im now in the 50's and even saw 80 at one time...

im tired of screwn with this crap..I want it now ..and i wan tit easy:D


Thx for your help guys..

Salute
BiGB


If you have a decemt video card..and your monitor says 70mhz or opt for refresh rate...does that mean your monitor doesnt liek to go above 70 mhz??


oh..btw..my card is a LE ..(does that mean its crappy )..arghhh frikn salesman shafting me...A holes

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: humble on April 22, 2003, 05:52:24 PM

Quote

Originally posted by BGBMAW
  oh..btw..my card is a LE ..(does that mean its crappy )..

unforunately....YES....compar ed to the "full version"...but you should still be fine in AH...not that demanding a game...at least till AH2 comes out

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: BGBMAW on April 22, 2003, 05:54:40 PM

lolol

unfortunalty.. YES..


well atleast i can laff about it.owell..

:)

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: streakeagle on April 22, 2003, 10:38:36 PM

LE: 250 MHz clock speeds

full retail: 275 MHz

difference in speed :275 - 250 / 250 x 100% = 10%


So theoretically if you are getting 50 fps now, you would get 55 fps with a full retail version.

If 5 fps bothers you that much, get the rage 3d tweaker and overclock it. If you are lucky, your card will still be stable at 275 MHz.

I have a full retail 275 MHz 128 MB card and love it.

Your control panel settings can affect your speed a lot as well. My card runs AH best at 1600x1200x32 with Anti-aliasing x2 and everything else cranked up all the way. I also disable video sync with no aparent penalties.

Catalyst 2.5 ran the fastest, 3.1 the slowest. Catalyst 3.2 seems to have recovered all of the speed of 2.5 and has fewer compatibility problems. I am hoping Catalyst 3.3 solves the only problem I still have with the 8500: Strike Fighters Project 1, which I can only get to run halfway decent by using the Rage 3D Tweaker to disable TCL (hardware terrain and lighting).

At $130 from Comp USA, the 275 MHz/128 MB Radeon 8500 was a real bargain compared to the $200 I paid for my Voodoo 5500. Though I must say the Voodoo 5500 still plays all my games very well with equal or better image quality and only 5% to 20% slower than the Radeon on average.

Title: I think I hate my gvideo card
Post by: BGBMAW on April 23, 2003, 12:52:02 PM

excellent eagle...thank you..will do soem more "tooling"


will let you know what happens...



BiGB