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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Krusher on March 31, 2003, 12:12:23 PM
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Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following Multiple Choice test. (The events are actual cuts from past history. They actually happened! Do you remember?)
1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:
a. Olga Corbitt
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwartzeneger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
2. In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.
3. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
4. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim ! male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
6. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kid
b. Charles Lindbergh
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
7. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
9. In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary, to distract attention from Wild Bill' s women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
10. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Center and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted to a crash by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
11. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonny and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
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Originally posted by Krusher
Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following Multiple Choice test. (The events are actual cuts from past history. They actually happened! Do you remember?)
1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:
c. Arnold Schwartzeneger
2. In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
3. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
c. The Boy Scouts
4. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
c. Geraldo Rivera
5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
c. The Little Mermaid
6. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
c. Mother Teresa
7. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
9. In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
c. The World Wrestling Federation
10. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Center and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted to a crash by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
c. Mr. Bean
11. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
b. The Lutheran Church
12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
b. Captain Kangaroo
I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
No, I do not.
What do I win for taking this quiz?
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Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
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Looks like we got a right wing repugnant racist on our hands here.
Now theres TWO OF US :D
jk jk....hehe
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IIRC, this "test" was given by Senator Conrad Burns (R, MT) on the floor of the Senate last year in response to other members comments about racial profiling after the 9/11 attacks.
His argument was that political correctness is a joke and is costing lives.
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Who's Olga?
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The best female gymnast of her day.
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2. In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.
Hint: In which country did the CIA topple the legitimate government of Premier Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953?
8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
Hint: Which country used it's influence with despotic moranchy of Saudi Araba to put it's military onto Saudi Arabia soil under the false pretext of 250,000 iraqi troops amassed on the SA border using fake satellite picture images?
I am not arguing here whether those actions were justified or not but the consequences should have been expected by the people paid to protect us.
miko
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damn.. is that a rebel flag avatar??
hmm
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Miko, are you sympathetic with the arab male terrorists between the ages of 17 and 40? It just comes across so powerfully to me in your musings that they and their tactics are where your heart resides.
In Iran the appropriate response would have been for the incoming regime, however backward and prehistoric it was, to expel the american diplomats.
In Saudi Arabia the appropriate response would have been for the Saudi people to depose of the, how you say, despotic monarchy. Flying 767s into american institutions is a rather ignorant and self destructive thing to do.
In both cases young arab men resorted to methods of terror in pursuit of their poilitcal aspirations.
This pursuit and employment of terror will not work in a civilized world. All it will do is cause the death of millions, mostly arabs.
These people need to get their act straightened out rather quickly.
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Right on Krusher!!!!
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Kill all the Haji's
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Yeager: Miko, are you sympathetic with the arab male terrorists between the ages of 17 and 40?
I pretty specifically stated that "I am not arguing here whether those actions were justified..." but since you are asking, I will tell you that I am not sympathetic with the terrorists.
What I am saying is that if we go and rearrange the governments of the countries where those despicable terrorists live, it is only natural to expect trouble from them and take precautions, like arming the pilots, guarding the embassy better, etc.
In Iran the appropriate response would have been for the incoming regime, however backward and prehistoric it was, to expel the american diplomats.
The capture of the embassy was not done by the regime but by militant students.
In Saudi Arabia the appropriate response would have been for the Saudi people to depose of the, how you say, despotic monarchy.
I bet few tens of thousands of US troops standing there would have had a different opinion. US has a history of propping despotic regimes when it suits our interests and Saudi and Kuwaiti regimes are the most suitable to our interests so far.
Given the democracy, they tend freely to elect fundamentalist governments or socialists that nationalise holdings of foreign industries or nationalists like Hitler that want to return some territories, or "appeasers" like french, etc.
Flying 767s into american institutions is a rather ignorant and self destructive thing to do.
I was not working in WTC only becasue a couple of year earlier Solomon broke the signed contract, or retracted it with the penalty, whatever and our company did not move there but a few of my friends and relatives were working there and in the immediately adjucent buildings. I was on next to the guy talking on the phone to his brother on the 82(?) floor ntill the oment we saw the tower fall in the window. Had to keep my house windows closed for a few days because of the smoke and smell.
But as much as I deplore this destruction, I have to say that while it seriously disrupted our plans, it was a very conducive to their (Al-Qaeda) plans.
This pursuit and employment of terror will not work in a civilized world.
I bet it does. I can see it working where I live. Who do you think we are, israeli, to bury our dead and go on with our lives? We are changing and most likely exactly like those people wanted us to change.
All it will do is cause the death of millions, mostly arabs.
I am afraid that the lives of those millions concern you much more than they concern Al-Qaeda. Such deaths will not make them change their evil designs.
miko
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Originally posted by rc51
Kill all the Haji's
Go for it... we'll sit back and watch. There's no room for a racist argument on this bbs.
By the way, wasn't Haji an Indian from Johnny Quest?
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Oct, "haji" was the slang we used for Iraqis in the first gulf war. Not saying it was right, that's just the way it was.
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Thanks Raub
His name sounds right... but it's spelled "Hadji". I correct myelf :)
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3512/jqra.htm
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so we start rounding up muslims on there 17'th birthdays and send them to "bovine university":D
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Nice to see that bigotry is alive and well here.
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Originally posted by miko2d
Hint: Which country used it's influence with despotic moranchy of Saudi Araba to put it's military onto Saudi Arabia soil under the false pretext of 250,000 iraqi troops amassed on the SA border using fake satellite picture images?
Do you have a source or link for this one? It's not one I've ever heard.
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Toad: Do you have a source or link for this one? It's not one I've ever heard.
Please check those boards (HTC and AGW) - we discussed them. Also, do a web search. I do not have much time now, so here is only one link The Christian Science Monitor (http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p01s02-wosc.html) That info was showing in a lot of places and media - right untill teh story with fake documents proving Iraq buying uranium from Nigeria displaced it.
When George H. W. Bush ordered American forces to the Persian Gulf – to reverse Iraq's August 1990 invasion of Kuwait – part of the administration case was that an Iraqi juggernaut was also threatening to roll into Saudi Arabia.
Citing top-secret satellite images, Pentagon officials estimated in mid–September that up to 250,000 Iraqi troops and 1,500 tanks stood on the border...
But when the St. Petersburg Times in Florida acquired two commercial Soviet satellite images of the same area, taken at the same time, no Iraqi troops were visible near the Saudi border – just empty desert.
Shortly before US strikes began in the Gulf War, for example, the St. Petersburg Times asked two experts to examine the satellite images of the Kuwait and Saudi Arabia border area taken in mid-September 1990, a month and a half after the Iraqi invasion. The experts, including a former Defense Intelligence Agency analyst who specialized in desert warfare, pointed out the US build-up – jet fighters standing wing-tip to wing-tip at Saudi bases – but were surprised to see almost no sign of the Iraqis.
"That [Iraqi buildup] was the whole justification for Bush sending troops in there, and it just didn't exist," Ms. Heller says. Three times Heller contacted the office of Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney (now vice president) for evidence refuting the Times photos or analysis – offering to hold the story if proven wrong.
The official response: "Trust us." To this day, the Pentagon's photographs of the Iraqi troop buildup remain classified.
I saw more extensive description of the real pictures - including sand banks on the roads that were not traveled on in months, let alone passed quarted million troops and thousands of vehicles, etc. like here fby Times reporter Jean Heller:
Photos taken on August 8, 1990, of southern Kuwait - six days after the initial invasion and right at the moment Bush was telling the world of an impending invasion of Saudi Arabia - show light sand drifts over patches of roads leading from Kuwait City to the Saudi border. The photos taken on September 11, 1990, show exactly the same sand drifts but now larger and deeper, suggesting that they had built up naturally without the disturbance of traffic for a month. Roads in northern Saudi Arabia during this same period, in contrast, show no sand drifts at all, having been swept clean by heavy traffic of supply convoys.
Oh, yes - those 250,000 troops and 1,500 tanks never materialised - neither dead, nor alive during the allied assault and bombing of 91.
miko
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Why am I not surprised they were soviet pictures?
Another 3rd world country spewing it's anti-americanism
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before anyone says anything my previous post was intended as a joke...
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Nice to see that bigotry is alive and well here.
Samo samo.....
Howdy Thrawn! I guess reports of your demise were exagerated.
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Martlet: Why am I not surprised they were soviet pictures?
Another 3rd world country spewing it's anti-americanism
OK, fine - the private company selling those exellent-quality pictures managed to quickly edit the ones of a piece of an unsignificant desert when a reporter from a backwater newspaper wanted to buy those.
And of course it is very suspicious that she went for the russian company when every country of the world has satellite in space making pictures. Especially since russians were so late in the space game with satellites and space stations...
Anyway, what happened to those 250,000 troops and 1,500 that US government reported? Any got shot up on the way from across all Kuwait? Still there after 12 years? Managed escape across the whole country and via the single road in a few hours when nobody was looking? Where are the dozens of broken-down tanks that always result from such march? Was that huge army destroyed in place? Attacked in place and damaged? Left any trace? Any Iraqi survived out of those 250,000 to be interviewed over the last 12 years to converm his presence there? Any kuwaiti that have seen those quarter million troops?
For you information, Martlet, it's been quite a few years since russians are not "soviet" anymore. So stop pretending that you are an anticommunist and get back into your real nationalistic jingoistic self.
Admit it - russians are scum, pure and simple - no matter how many free elections they hold and how many perties they support or how liberal their laws are (13% flat tax, anyone?), they will never be equal with your people, whatever that is. They are genetically inferior, right? Always were, always will be.
Don't confuse us with "soviet", use "subhuman" - that's whay you really mean.
miko
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Well, then all our problems with terrorism wil be easily solved, just check all 'Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40' when they board planes, cross state lines, borders enter public faciliteis etc. etc.
But wait, how will we distinguish whether someone is a muslim, let alone a specimen which we would call extremist....
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Miko, do you know how I got that beautiful quote from Reverend (oh, sorry, simply Divine) Jay Littman?
;)
99% of "anticommunists" here are absolutely unaware of what Communism is. They simply KNOW "communism" is evil.
We usually disagree on many aspects of life in USSR, being probably two people from similiar social groups, but the reason for most of my arguments with you is that Western people have an extremely distorted picture of above-mentioned life.
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Originally posted by Boroda
Miko, do you know how I got that beautiful quote from Reverend (oh, sorry, simply Divine) Jay Littman?
;)
99% of "anticommunists" here are absolutely unaware of what Communism is. They simply KNOW "communism" is evil.
We usually disagree on many aspects of life in USSR, being probably two people from similiar social groups, but the reason for most of my arguments with you is that Western people have an extremely distorted picture of above-mentioned life.
nah, communism is great. The best form of government. I mean, sheesh, who could argue that after it worked so well for the USSR.
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Originally posted by Martlet
nah, communism is great. The best form of government. I mean, sheesh, who could argue that after it worked so well for the USSR.
Did we have Communism in USSR? Did I miss something?
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Boroda: 99% of "anticommunists" here are absolutely unaware of what Communism is. They simply KNOW "communism" is evil.
Otherwise they would not have been building that communism here in efficient american way for the last 70 years. Or maybe they would.
You see - dumb russians tried to build communism quickly, did not prepare people properly and have done a poor job that did not last despite all american support - uniting people around bolshevics by 1918 military intervention, later supplying a unifying external threat while plying soviet regime with food, technoligy and parts.
Americans are making is the right way - to last for ages. Every bookstore has plenty of books by most notable US economists and other scientists explaining how it's going on - and nobody cares. See? No reason to bother with censure or iron curtain when the people are changed. It took a few generations but one cannot rush with such matters, silly russians.
...but the reason for most of my arguments with you is that Western people have an extremely distorted picture of above-mentioned life.
True. But you are often wrong in which ways that picture is distorted. Probably you just cannot imagine how deluded a properly brainwashed or undereducated people can be despite free access to all information, unrestricted travel, etc.
You have to come visit for a few weeks/months. You see all the idiocy on those boards but you do not see that our bookstores and media does have all that is needed to make an informed decision - unlike in Soviet Union.
Fortunalely US is a very socially-mobile society and ignorance of the majority of the population is not as bad since a few smart americans getting through the gaps in the "education system" and plenty of immigrans that raise to the top are sufficient to make system work - at least economically.
miko