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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Cherlie on April 01, 2003, 02:28:12 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/31/sprj.irq.arnett/index.html
DAMN PAPERS!!
SUN,
MIRROR
ALL CAN KISS MY HAIRY AR*E, NOTHING BUT LIES AND TROUBLE MAKERS THEY ARE.
CB
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arnett was telling his feelings and then he got fired by americans, jeeez
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He allowed himself to be used a propaganda mouthpiece rof the iraqi military, thays why he got fired. If he had said the same things stateside in some new york studio it would have been fine - but saying them while being interviewd by an iraq military offical was wrong.
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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
arnett was telling his feelings and then he got fired by americans, jeeez
He worked for NBC. NBC relies on consumers. He pissed off the consumers. NBC lost consumers. NBC lost earning power. Arnett lost a job.
Rumor rag picked him up.
quite fitting, really.
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Where have I read all this before?
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"With us or against us"
Do you really believe is valid only for foreign people?
Wait 'till you are ordered to wear a black uniform. ;)
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Guess what...... unpopular TV shows get cancelled too.
Arnett made himself unpopular by using his "free speech".
People watching used their "free speech" to NBC HQ.
NBC made a good business decision, just like canceling an unpopular TV show.
Free speech means people are free to disagree with you after you've done something assinine.
They're also free to choose where to spend their money... or viewing time.
Lots of you guys haven't really figured out this "free speech" thing have you?
You can say what you want. Doesn't mean everyone else will not comment or react to that.
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Naso,
NBC is owned by General Electric.
It is hardly a government conspiracy.
GE relies heavily on it's consumer products divisions, and even more so on its GE Capital finance division. It will NOT tolerate a stupid act like Arnett's to threaten it's market share position with it's customers.
Plus, maybe the head of GE happens to feel differently than Arnett does. It is his right to fire him.
I really believe it to be that simple.
Coupled with the fact that as soon as Arnett got hired by the Mirror, he recanted his apology. I'm not sure Arnett has any principles he would stand behind. Either he thinks he made a mistake or he doesn't. Either way, doesn't matter to me, but at least be consistent.
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dont forget the massive tax cut GE was given by this administration.
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How many more buck he would have had if he had said something like : "I spotted Chirac doing a blow job to Saddam" ?
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Couple points here. arnett was supposed to report the news. He is not suposed to "air his feelings". He is supposed to find information and tell what he found out. He is not going to find information about coalition military plans in Baghdad. He is not going to find information about coalition military operations by interviewing an iraqi general / diplomat etc. on the show. He is not supposed to encourqage the enemy or give aid to them.
All reporters are enjoined from providing on the air military information to the enemy of actual military plans under way to include troop movements and operational orders (plan of battle) until AFTER the action is over. Doing otherwise provides the enemy with the information they would have to send a spy to find out. That is under the umbrella of treason. That is why rivera was escorted out of iraq yesterday and fired. He broadcast the actual plan prior to the operation and included a map and troop unit identification as well as the time span.
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
dont forget the massive tax cut GE was given by this administration.
Are you implying that GE is now run by this administration?
Or is that just a red-herring?
Here's a news flash. All mega-corps get preferential treatment from all Admins....Democrat and Republican.
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No way Cobra!
Uh oh.. .flashing lights and honking horns here! It's a foil hat/black helo alert!
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Must be another tax cut for a major company!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
dont forget the massive tax cut GE was given by this administration.
Yeah, next thing you know you'll be saying that the Gov't bail out of near-bankrupt American owned airlines is a plot by the Bush admin. to sell more fuel to these floundering airlines, thus making a profit for the Booshes! ;) One thing is certain most FDB check their brains in at the coat rack when posting on the AH BBS :p
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Yeah, next thing you know you'll be saying that the Gov't bail out of near-bankrupt American owned airlines is a plot by the Bush admin. to sell more fuel to these floundering airlines, thus making a profit for the Booshes! ;) One thing is certain most FDB check their brains in at the coat rack when posting on the AH BBS :p
No you idiot, the tax cut was to pay the airliness off for the 4 planes the CIA used in the 911 attacks. Jeez and you think people get that straight after all this time. Hell Rip are you sure the extra shiny side is facing out on your tinfoil hat?
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Originally posted by Cobra
Naso,
NBC is owned by General Electric.
It is hardly a government conspiracy.
GE relies heavily on it's consumer products divisions, and even more so on its GE Capital finance division. It will NOT tolerate a stupid act like Arnett's to threaten it's market share position with it's customers.
Plus, maybe the head of GE happens to feel differently than Arnett does. It is his right to fire him.
I really believe it to be that simple.
Coupled with the fact that as soon as Arnett got hired by the Mirror, he recanted his apology. I'm not sure Arnett has any principles he would stand behind. Either he thinks he made a mistake or he doesn't. Either way, doesn't matter to me, but at least be consistent.
Was a joke....
almost...
well.....
:p
BTW, I dont think is so simple, in a country that is controlled by money, nor GE, neither Government are guilty (or innocent) of what happens...
but this is another whole matter.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
No you idiot, the tax cut was to pay the airliness off for the 4 planes the CIA used in the 911 attacks. Jeez and you think people get that straight after all this time. Hell Rip are you sure the extra shiny side is facing out on your tinfoil hat?
LOL Grun :)
BTW, want to buy one?
I have some original tinfoil hat to sell... I swear, it's original, not a copy.
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...in a country that is controlled by money, ...
Please elaborate.
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jeez, no the bailout money all went to the top exec's pentions plans fools. Any news agent that express's their opinion over givin the truth should be fired. Thats why alot of these damn "news" talk shows should be on the upn, the WB and the broadcast fox channel and not "fox news" msnbc or cnn.
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Originally posted by ra
Please elaborate.
I hope to do it, in the future, but is extremely difficult to made it directly in english, since each time I tried I have been named anti-american in the sense of "american people heater".
I have to reserve time to write down in italian and then translate it in a understandable english, but, at the moment i have little time. :(
Anyway, the will is scarce, basicly because any try to have a rational discussion is faked by name-calling, political biasing, or personal agendas.
And the moment is not the best one..... "with us or against us"
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Toad is quite right. Most people are more than willing to wave the "freedom of speech" flag around, but forget that they have to accept responsibility for that freedom when they chose to exercise it.
Freedom for anything does not come without responsibilites.
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Naso,
I hope you didn't take my post as being aggressive towards you or your post.
I only wanted to point out that GE would be the driving element behind any decision making process with regards to Arnett.
I understand the language expression barriers. My wife is from Mira Bella, outside Avellino (sp?)! Near Naples.
Cobra
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Toad is quite right. Most people are more than willing to wave the "freedom of speech" flag around, but forget that they have to accept responsibility for that freedom when they chose to exercise it.
Freedom for anything does not come without responsibilites.
Damn right Skuzzy.
America has far too many spoiled brats.
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What kind of moron would go on Iraqui TV and say stuff like that and expect to keep his job?
That has to be the dumbest journalist ever.
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Hehe, free speech! I agree with Mr. Toad too. Speaking from experience, the most satisfying free speech is being able to sally forth when it seems that everyone is against you! I believe in being able to hold an opinion, and express it courteously within the rules of the medium, even if it does not accord with perceived majority thinking. A bit of ribbing is OK :)
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Originally posted by Cobra
Naso,
I hope you didn't take my post as being aggressive towards you or your post.
I only wanted to point out that GE would be the driving element behind any decision making process with regards to Arnett.
I understand the language expression barriers. My wife is from Mira Bella, outside Avellino (sp?)! Near Naples.
Cobra
No Problems at all, Cobra, I am used to far more aggressive answers.
Once someone menaced to put my home coordinates in a JDAM bomb! ;) .... (j/k), others will never drink a beer with me, and someone want to kick my nice (check photo :cool: ) ugly face, just because I have different opinions :).
Anyway, GE will not have pressed to that outcome, if the public opinion would have been oriented differently by all the mass media, each of one is under different pressures, for different reasons, to support this war at the cost to "filter" the info given to the US people, plus, GE has, like others aerospace/armament-connected industries, a real and tangible (sp?) interests to present this war as "the mother of all the just wars"..... There's a 73 Billion $ cake to eat!! :D
Ooops !!! I am going to be burned alive :eek:
Anyway, Very good food in Avellino Zone, There's a restaurant on the highway, at Mirabella, that is the best restaurant accessible directly from the highway in Ita. :) IMHO, of course.
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arnett? thats a french name isn't it LOL