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Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: lazs2 on April 01, 2003, 08:33:48 AM
Gun thread got me thinking... would it be easier for the coalition forces if the militia of iraq were not armed?  Sorta like england?  Would it be harder if say 50% or so of the people were armed and in a militia?  

Heard a U.S. soldier say that it was a little hard to tell the good guys from the bad.. He said that just because a farmer had an AK47 in his closet didn't make him a bad guy.

Will it be easier for the U.S because the kurds and ****es are armed?
lazs
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: Mr.H on April 01, 2003, 09:01:54 AM
I think that all depends on who controls what these armed civilians think.  Having a country with weapons in every farm - and were not talking light weapons but full on assault rifles - must be a nightmare for the troops.  You just never know, when abdul makes his mind up what to do, just exactly what he'll do.  After all you may have 10 villages to your back which suddenly decide theyre gonna shoot you with theyre assault rifles and just what the hell you gonna do about that... lose soldiers for sure.

I still see no reason for a general populace to own weapons at all, but to own assault rifles and hardware the likes of RPG's and large calibre guns is rediculous.  That includes America, Switzerland and all those other western nations. It doesnt hold out that its for protection and people just get killed all the time with them because you simply cant trust people with them at all.  Theres nothing wrong with having an armoury in every major town, after all a war could happen and you have every right to protect yourself and your way of life... but at the time of necessity and not everyday on the off chance.

Guns are stupid.
People are stupid.
Mix em together and what do you get.....:(
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: straffo on April 01, 2003, 09:26:32 AM
it would have been easier to buy Iraq with it's complete population :D
(not that I think Saddam would have accepted such an offer)
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: -tronski- on April 01, 2003, 09:48:28 AM
Something I found interesting was on the news before the war, where they had a news report of handgun sales skyrocketing in Bagdad.

 Tronsky
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: lazs2 on April 01, 2003, 11:08:43 AM
well... I have been told that to think an armed militia is anything more than a joke in America is crazy...  That our 2nd amendment gives us no protection against tyranny from within or without...  It seems that with the larger area and more militia friendly terrain of the U.S.  that.....  

A well armed militia/populace would indeed be an effective force in America against tyranny from without or within.
lazs
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: AKIron on April 01, 2003, 12:18:14 PM
Are you trying to hijack this war Lazs? ;)
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: lazs2 on April 01, 2003, 02:23:11 PM
preperation H..... don't you think that the most likely first targets would be the cities armory's?   I mean... bombs are kinda precision these days.
lazs
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: Montezuma on April 01, 2003, 02:28:24 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
well... I have been told that to think an armed militia is anything more than a joke in America is crazy...  


It is a joke.  They would have no chance against the local SWAT team, not to mention helicopters and armor.
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: crabofix on April 01, 2003, 02:29:44 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
preperation H..... don't you think that the most likely first targets would be the cities armory's?   I mean... bombs are kinda precision these days.
lazs


Nah, you dont need to bomb no Armory. The iraq people will surrender at the sight of the Herotic American Army. They will meet them with flowers, not with guns.

"Hail the Herotic Army of the Emperor Of the World", is the tune that they will be playing.

Crabofix
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: Martlet on April 01, 2003, 02:35:18 PM
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Originally posted by crabofix
Nah, you dont need to bomb no Armory. The iraq people will surrender at the sight of the Herotic American Army. They will meet them with flowers, not with guns.

"Hail the Herotic Army of the Emperor Of the World", is the tune that they will be playing.

Crabofix


Jealous much?
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: lazs2 on April 01, 2003, 02:38:21 PM
I don't believe that SWAT would operate well against militia... I mean... let's face it... they haven't had much experiance with situations that don't involve complete superiority in numbers and equipment not to mention...  they all show up in the same van and.... if they get the right address... they are basicly in barracade situations not fluid war in the boonies.

crabo... seems the kurds are finding their weapons useful... perhaps before it is over others will as well?    You should be rejocing in any case that the fedayeem is armed and killing the evil coalition invaders so that they can get back to peoacefully ruling their country.

Besides.... we didn't need to do anything.... sweeeeeden  woulda stopped all the bloodshed given enough time.    We woulda considered your solution but.... you didn't have one.   Since you are so irrelevant.... please... sit back and enjoy the show.  Grab a smoke.... relax.  
lazs
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Post by: Wlfgng on April 01, 2003, 02:45:32 PM
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A well armed militia/populace would indeed be an effective force in America against tyranny from without or within.
here here!!!
totally agree.

hell lazs, you almost made me spew my coffee with the Preperation-H comment  lol

Swat team?
puhleaze
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: Frogm4n on April 01, 2003, 02:45:32 PM
wait i thought alot of gun nuts claim that we have to own firearms to protect us from the government? but wait all these iraqis running around with ak47s... and open rpg and guns sales for everyone ..... well hmm nevermind..
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: Wlfgng on April 01, 2003, 02:51:12 PM
lol
you hear what you want to hear

bottom line:  an armed populace is more likely to defend against any type of attack.. no matter the source.
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 01, 2003, 02:52:26 PM
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Originally posted by crabofix
Herotic American Army.


Well, now youve ruined any chance to call this a religous war, havent you?  Shame.
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: Dune on April 01, 2003, 03:01:51 PM
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Originally posted by crabofix
"Hail the Herotic Army of the Emperor Of the World", is the tune that they will be playing.
Crabofix


Actually, I think he said he's attracted to us.  In a homo kinda way.


;)
Title: well... would it be easier for us if the iraquis werent armed?
Post by: Montezuma on April 01, 2003, 04:42:25 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
I don't believe that SWAT would operate well against militia... I mean... let's face it... they haven't had much experiance with situations that don't involve complete superiority in numbers and equipment not to mention...  they all show up in the same van and.... if they get the right address... they are basicly in barracade situations not fluid war in the boonies.
 


A militia could probably do a good job of hiding in the forest and caressing their weapons, but that is not going to take down a tyrannical regime.