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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Ike 2K# on April 01, 2003, 04:57:30 PM
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Which planes requires alot of attention when you fight a SPIT 9?
is it the FW-190 A8
or
P-51D mustang
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Any plane. Take into consideration that a single hit from hispano gun may cause serious or catastrophic damage. the same applies to Typh, Tempest, P38, F4U1C, N1K2, 262 and 110G2.
The rule is to never give them a single shooting oportunity.
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The rule is to never give them a single shooting oportunity.
*SLAP* So that's my problem!
;)
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the three that are coming in to cherrypick me before i nail the spit.
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WhIIIiiiIIIIiiiiIIIIiiiinnnnE EEeeee ;)
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Originally posted by HFMudd
*SLAP* So that's my problem!
;)
*SLAP*
same here
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The Spit IX, in my experience, is so completely uber that you shouldn't even try to fight it. You should simply turn on your emergency flashers, fly directly in front of it, flat and level, at about 175 mph, and calmly await the inevitable. :)
- JNOV
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lol... Fighting ONE spit9 is no problem at all. It's the cherry pickers that buzz me while I'm beating the spit up that bother me.
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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
Which planes requires alot of attention when you fight a SPIT 9?
is it the FW-190 A8
or
P-51D mustang
If you are in a FW190A8 and are fighting a Spit IX, then you have 3 good options:
(a) Go for the head-on shot and start firing at d1.0 and just keep shooting and spraying. The FW190a8 with four 20mm will out-gun the Spit IX.
(b) If you are high and fast, chop throttle and come in behind and below the Spit IX. The Spitfire has a large blind spot directly behind and below it.
(c) If the Spitfire is circling around, then try to make a snap shot as soon as it is in front of you.
Do not try to turn a FW190 against a Spitfire or you will lose.
As for the Mustang, it will out-turn a Spit but only at high speed (300 or more) and with 1 notch of flaps. After that first turn, you should look to get out of the fight because the Spitfire will get the advantage as your plane gets slower.
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the key is to always be either faster or higher than your target and all the other enemy planes around. The one that will get you is the one you haven't seen, so keep your eyes open, look around, and always keep in mind a three dimensional tactical picture of the airspace around you, anticipating where the enemies will be next....
What am I talking about? I never managed to do that :(
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Originally posted by LoneStarBuckeye
The Spit IX, in my experience, is so completely uber that you shouldn't even try to fight it. You should simply turn on your emergency flashers, fly directly in front of it, flat and level, at about 175 mph, and calmly await the inevitable. :)
- JNOV
Very interesting ... can you expound on some of your experiences that explain how the Spit is "so completely uber".
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SlapShot:
I was trying to add some levity. (Note the smiley face.)
I often fly the Spit IX, (so note that my jest was, in some sense, a jab at myself) and am constantly told that it is uber and that I am a dweeb for flying it. The prevailing opinion seems to be that you simply need to set it on autopilot and kills will accumulate automatically. :)
In all seriousness, I have naught to rely upon but my relatively brief experience. Not being one to let lack of knowledge impede stating my opinion, however, I would rate the Spitfire IX as one of the elite dogfighters in the game. Its outclimbs and outruns everything it cannot outturn and outturns everything it can't outrun. It retains energy like few other planes. It doesn't compress easily and maintains decent control at very high speeds. It has very gentle and forgiving stall characteristics. Its cannons have excellent ballistics and more than enough lethality to kill in a single snap shot. It rolls sufficiently well to e-fight and reverse effectively. If you employ prudent energy management and avoid the classic Spitfire Luftberry, the plane is extremely survivable, notwithstanding its modest top speed.
I think the IX gets a bad rap as a "beginner's" plane. Although it is certainly easier to get your first kills in a Spit than in, say, an F4U, most of the Spit IX's best qualities will be completely lost on the rank novice (I know because I just recently graduated from "rank novice" to "not rank but still pretty smelly novice"). In the hands of an ace, I have to believe that the sky's the limit. For me of very modest ability, the IX allows me to engage under unfavorable circumstances and occassionally live to tell the tale.
While perhaps not "so completely uber," I would posit that the IX is tough to beat in an even engagement between equally skilled pilots.
- JNOV
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LoneStarBuckeye,
I apologize for misinterpreting your post. <>
I have to agree with everything in your last post, and that description sounds exactly what it was designed for.
The Spit IX, in the hands of a newbie does afford them some survivablilty, but when confronted with an experienced stick, they will/should die sooner or later. Get the Spit in the hands of an experienced stick and its a real killer, but still can be killed by many other planes.
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does anything with a prop ( in ah) keep e like a spit?
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
does anything with a prop ( in ah) keep e like a spit?
Yes. Lots of planes retain their energy just as good, if not better than the Spitfire.
Ack-Ack
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SlapShot
LDV:
I think the La-5/7 retain energy very well. Although they replenish so quickly any energy they do lose, it's a bit hard to tell.
- JNOV
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The Spit IX is a very very good plane, - in my opinion the best overall fighter in AH. There is no plane both faster and more nimble. And it's well armed too.
It does have inferiorities in some fields against certain planes, but as well superiorities against the same, so duelling a Spit IX on equal terms with another plane usually leaves you in the mud, - if the Spit pilot knows his job.
The main weakness of the Spit IX is speed, - many planes in AH are quite a bit faster, so the B&Z is the favourite of many. however, a proper B&Z requires something else than equal terms.
And imagine, the Spit IX we have is not nearly the best Spit, its just a modest high alt fighter from 1942.....
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The C-205 retains energy very well and will outrun all spits level
without wep except the Spit-14.
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The N1K2 can out-turn the Spit IX and is actually a few MPH faster up to about 10K :)
The Spit probably holds its E better though.
J_A_B
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In my experience, the Hurri IIC does well against any of the Spits. Of course, the Spitfire is popular with the less experienced flyers. That probably has more to do with my success against them than anything else.
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Spits are off my menu from now on. Three times today I got into a turning fight with a Spit. I was in an La7 twice and a 109G-10 once. I turn he turns tighter, round and round we go, him gaining on me and me sweating. I try something clever and 'game over'. I got away once in an La7 by trying some crazy manoeuvres and ran, which I never do. He chased me an I ran and ran like a Mustang jock until he finally gave up. Whew, never again!
N1K's are to be avoided too. Two intense fights with I think a Japanese? guy in a nicky, resulted in two kills for me but resulted in a broken joystick trigger and an increase in blood pressure. We got so close in a vertical scissors that I could read his instruments!!! Good flying Tonio!
From now on I only attack easy aeroplanes like 262's and 163's:eek: