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Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Glasses on April 01, 2003, 08:07:01 PM
I'm looking for what mobo CPu combos with RAm I can get for $300 or maybe a bit more,from what I currently have an AMD 900mhz.

Thank you EL cuatro ojos.
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Tarmac on April 01, 2003, 08:52:45 PM
Just bought an Asus A7N8X deluxe, Athlon 2200+, and 2-256 mb sticks of crucial PC2700 memory for $356 altogether.  Loving the system.

Take it down to PC2100 memory (all you need anyhow if you don't plan to swap CPUs later), maybe shave a couple mhz off the cpu speed, or go down to just an A7N8X (not deluxe, if you already have a sound card and LAN card), and you'd be right in the $300 ballpark.  

If you don't have a sound card/lan card, get the deluxe... it's $30 more for highly-rated sound and 2 lan ports.
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Glasses on April 01, 2003, 09:09:51 PM
How about a case a cheap case to go aswell to run this system.
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Tarmac on April 01, 2003, 09:45:53 PM
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82923


The case I bought didn't come with a power supply though.  I bought an Antec truepower 430W seperately.
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Glasses on April 02, 2003, 12:58:23 AM
Would a Thunderbird Heat sink/fan work with the Athlon XP slots or would I need to buy another one entirely new? Also is corsair a good brand name of Memory in the  ase site there's a 512mb ddr stick of corsair PC2700 for $88 dunno if that's a good price for this type .

Thanks for the help.
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: CavemanJ on April 02, 2003, 06:21:07 AM
If you get an nForce2 board (the A7N8X is one) you need to sticks of RAM to take full advantage of the board.  MSI also has nice nForce2 boards and, when I bought mine, tended be a little less expensive than the Asus boards.
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: straffo on April 02, 2003, 07:45:50 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Glasses
Would a Thunderbird Heat sink/fan work with the Athlon XP slots or would I need to buy another one entirely new? Also is corsair a good brand name of Memory in the  ase site there's a 512mb ddr stick of corsair PC2700 for $88 dunno if that's a good price for this type .

Thanks for the help.


Mine work perfectly on my new barton you can keep it if it's good enought (check the temp° after 1st boot).
In case the temp increase to a dangerous value  the board (if you go for a A7N8X) will shutdown automaticly.

Personnaly I recommand a A7N8X + 2 stick of PC3200 memory (I got a lot of troubles with a PC2700)
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Glasses on April 02, 2003, 10:47:41 AM
Ok OK Ok and What model MSI mobo is it? this is getting complicated!!! :D SO 2 sticks is better for the ASus board than 1 eeek!.

Keep it coming :D thanks
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Tarmac on April 02, 2003, 11:01:57 AM
2 sticks of memory is the way to go in any Nforce2 board, whether it's Asus or MSI or Abit or whoever.  And right now, if you're going AMD, Nforce2 is the chipset to go with.
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Pfunk on April 02, 2003, 11:57:27 AM
The ASUS Nforce2 board everyone is refering to has many features you will probably never use in a "budget" computer including RAID, Serial ATA, Firewire etc and the price reflects this $142.99 for this board.  I would recommend either an Epox 8rda or 8rda+ the + board gives you 6 channel soundstream sound and that is the only difference the non + is $88 and the + is $102.  Lots of folks have been having issues with the ASUS boards and memory.  My suggestion would be the EPOX 8rda with 2 sticks of Kingston HyperX PC3000 or pc2700 which runs around $50 per stick.  This memory flat out flies and runs very tight timings, this memory is just as good if not better than the COrsair XMS that everyone loves so much.  I have the 8rda+ and PC3000 and it runs flawlessly even with my overclocked XP1600 running at 1.9ghz.
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: maddog on April 02, 2003, 02:40:48 PM
The deluxe board has all those things.... but the other choice is the none deeluxe board which has sound and lan.... and was approx $118 at newegg.......  highly reccomended.....

by the way I do have a swiftech overkill heasink but temp never gets over 35........ if I recall correctly the Bartons have more real estate to disapate heat and actually run cooler then my AMD2000.. is that right skuzz.......
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: DAVENRINO on April 02, 2003, 02:44:39 PM
Only real downside to non-deluxe Asus is third party sound chip.  Deluxe uses Nforce sound chip.
DJ229 - AIR MAFIA
Title: I've always had good luck with these guys
Post by: g00b on April 02, 2003, 02:48:24 PM
Take a look here

http://www.accessmicro.com/bundle/indexamd.phtml?kitid=KTAXPDDR400#product

For a good deal on mobo combos. Pre-assembled, burned-in, with a two year warranty. Super good prices too.
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Glasses on April 02, 2003, 04:17:09 PM
oooh Muchas Thanks everyone lots of help :D

But how about the K7 thunderbird Heat sink fan will it work with the Athlon XPs and keep them cool?
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Pfunk on April 02, 2003, 06:16:21 PM
http://www.resellerratings.com


AcessMicro has horrible reviews from those who ordered there.  IMHO newegg.com is the best way to go.  You have up to 1 year to RMA your stuff back to them if for some reason it fails.  I had a ECS K7s5a board that wouldnt boot after 8 months of use.  RMA'ed it and they sent me out a replacement.  If not newegg mwave, googlegear have good reseller ratings.
Title: Re: I've always had good luck with these guys
Post by: Pfunk on April 02, 2003, 08:55:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by g00b
Take a look here

http://www.accessmicro.com/bundle/indexamd.phtml?kitid=KTAXPDDR400#product

For a good deal on mobo combos. Pre-assembled, burned-in, with a two year warranty. Super good prices too.


Oh and by the way burn in and testing is just a way for online crappy online vendors like accessmicro suckers more money out of the consumer.  You wanna pay em $10 to "burn in" your processor....LOL what a load of chit.  Download prime95 or Sisoft Sandra and do it yourself.  Even if you get an OEM processor it still has a 30 day warranty.  "Testing and Burn In" LOL!!!!!!!!! if you fall for that your a complete sucker.


  6 Month Averages  
  rating type  reviews  rating  
  Overall customer satisfaction   16   2.81  
 
  Pricing of products and services   16   5.63  
 
  Likelihood of customers making future purchases   16   2.81  
 
  Overall delivery process   13   3.46  
 
  Overall technical support   5   4.00  
 
  Overall product replacement service   3   3.33
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Pfunk on April 02, 2003, 08:55:44 PM
Newegg reseller rating


  6 Month Averages  
  rating type  reviews  rating  
  Overall customer satisfaction   1646   9.78  
 
  Pricing of products and services   1641   8.10  
 
  Likelihood of customers making future purchases   1638   9.62  
 
  Overall delivery process   1637   9.44  
 
  Overall technical support   292   8.55  
 
  Overall product replacement service   415   9.03
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: CavemanJ on April 02, 2003, 09:41:37 PM
I'm currently using the MSI K7N2G-L
The MSI K7N2G-LISR (or something like that) would be the board to compare to the Asus deluxe board.
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Glasses on April 03, 2003, 09:06:31 AM
Hey Tarmac that site where you bought your case has good prices for CPU and mobos are they any good with shipping costs and time,from what I've seen in the site at least for shipping is ok,but I don't know about delivery how are they any complaints, I might just order from them.
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Tarmac on April 03, 2003, 12:28:14 PM
I bought my Chieftec/Antec case from http://www.buyxtremegear.com

I've only dealt with them once, so I don't know how representaive my experience with them is.  

After two weeks of not getting my case (the website said 7-10 business days to ship), I gave them a call and they told me it was on backorder. I was pretty pissed, since I now had a couple hundred dollars in computer parts sitting around and no case to put them in.  I squeaked at them pretty good, threatened to cancel, said I would look around to see if I could get another one elsewhere.  Three or four days later I had my case. They even upgraded it to a front-USB model with a side panel case fan (probably becasue they were out of the one I had ordered). Cost me $35 + $17 shipping. No power supply.

Very happy with the case, and they redeemed themselves for not giving me a call to tell me it was backordered. Can't beat the price either.

Their cheapo case page (looks like they're in the process of redoing their website) http://store.yahoo.com/buyxg/chiefsxcaswi.html

My case (price has gone up $5 since I bought it)
http://store.yahoo.com/buyxg/blacturcasch1.html

And their rating on ResellerRatings.com:
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller_info.pl?seller_id=2753

Looks like they have problems with returns and tech support.  I think I'd be hesitant to order any electronics (mobo, ram, cpu) just because those are more likely to be dead on arrival.  For those, I'd go with Newegg.com.  You might pay $5 more for your item, but you know you'll get it quickly and you have good customer service/return policies backing you up.  I can't say enough good things about newegg.
Title: Pfunk...
Post by: g00b on April 03, 2003, 01:33:57 PM
Does it feel good to insult a complete stranger? As I said in my post "I've always had good luck with these guys", so how does that make me a sucker? As far as "Burned In" goes. I like to know that my Mobo, CPU and RAM have all been assembled and tested. Having been in the IT industry for 10 years now, I know what the failure rate is on Mobo's, CPU's and RAM, and I'll pay a whopping $10 not to have to worry about it. Not to mention the 2 year warranty. I also live fairly close to them, I can order something and have it in 3 days.

You said

"You wanna pay em $10 to "burn in" your processor....LOL what a load of chit. Download prime95 or Sisoft Sandra and do it yourself. Even if you get an OEM processor it still has a 30 day warranty."

Nooooo, I want to burn-in my mobo and RAM. In 10 years I have worked on literally thousands of computers, I have only seen 1 CPU DOA from the factory, the few other failed CPU's I have seen resulted from poor cooling. But I have seen tons of mobo's and memory go bad, often after 30 days.

You are totally entitled to your opion, just don't be an bellybutton about it.
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Glasses on April 03, 2003, 09:58:11 PM
Yes I've dealt with new egg at least twice and I'm happy with their delivery and shipping I might just order these components from them again. But, are they any good with cases etc?
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Pfunk on April 04, 2003, 12:19:31 AM
Bought this one and I am very pleased with it

http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=11-125-252-02.JPG/11-125-252-03.JPG/11-125-252-04.JPG/11-125-252-08.JPG/11-125-252-07.JPG/11-125-252-06.JPG/11-125-252-05.JPG/11-125-252-09.JPG
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: lord dolf vader on April 04, 2003, 02:38:39 PM
after multiple purchases without a hitch and literaly next day shipping. newegg is almost the only place i shop they arent the cheapest but never seem to be more than 5% more. and none of the added value ( retail for sqeeze one more cent out of the dumb ones) crap.

newegg is the way to go
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Glasses on April 05, 2003, 09:06:10 PM
uh Funk can you post the link of the of the case product number and price please :D thank you.
Title: Budget Upgrade
Post by: Glasses on April 06, 2003, 10:06:54 PM
Panty!