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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Wilfrid on April 03, 2003, 02:50:59 AM
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It's really quite beautiful (http://slate.msn.com/id/2081042/)
Couple of examples:
The Unknown
The Unknown
As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don't know
We don't know.
—Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing
A Confession
Once in a while,
I'm standing here, doing something.
And I think,
"What in the world am I doing here?"
It's a big surprise.
—May 16, 2001, interview with the New York Times
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The Unknown
As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don't know
We don't know.
—Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing
That one is awesome. It's a pretty important concept too.
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Originally posted by funkedup
That one is awesome. It's a pretty important concept too.
What's funny is that people keep bringing up that quote to show what a tard Rumsfeld is, and yet it makes perfect sense to me what he's trying to get across.
Guess I'm a tard too! :D
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Hell I must be a tard too, I think what he said was brilliant. :)
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I think you're mistaking a buffoon for a prophet.
Why didn't he just say:
There are some things we are aware of, but have little information about. On the other hand there are things we are not aware of, and have no information about.
He's a tard.
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Originally posted by Dowding
I think you're mistaking a buffoon for a prophet.
Why didn't he just say:
There are some things we are aware of, but have little information about. On the other hand there are things we are not aware of, and have no information about.
He's a tard.
For starters, he said more than that.
-Sik
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Woohoo here they come!!! Thx dowding..
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He could have said that but he was speaking to the press.
So, if he'd used your terminology, they absolutely would have been unable to understand what he meant.
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The information in Mr. Rumsfield's quote is directly attributable to a concept known as "Risk Management." This concept is historically a subset of Project Management, but recently has come to be viewed as a separate field. The IT sector was THE job market for the last 20 years. The hottest two jobs in the next 20 years are forecast to be Project Managers and Risk Managers.
Just my two cents...
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Originally posted by Dowding
I think you're mistaking a buffoon for a prophet.
Why didn't he just say:
There are some things we are aware of, but have little information about. On the other hand there are things we are not aware of, and have no information about.
He's a tard.
Actually, if you watch the press conference where this happened you will see that it's the people who keep bringing up this statement who are the tards. He was obviously joking, and the reporters were chuckling. He was just trying to point out to them that they were constantly asking him questions which would require speculative answers. Those who write it down and use it as proof that he is mentally deficient have an agenda.
ra
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Bollocks he did, Sikboy. He muddied his words, but that was his general meaning.
There are things we know about. There are things we don't know about in any great detail, apart from their existance. And then there are things whose mere existance is beyond us and any other detail is a complete mystery.
Don't make out it's a work of literary genius. It isn't.
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Originally posted by Dowding
I think you're mistaking a buffoon for a prophet.
Why didn't he just say:
There are some things we are aware of, but have little information about. On the other hand there are things we are not aware of, and have no information about.
Because he's not gay?
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Originally posted by Dowding
Bollocks he did, Sikboy.
There are things we know about. There are things we don't know about in any great detail, apart from their existance. And then there are things whose mere existance is beyond us and any other detail is a complete mystery.
And yet, youre Original quote was
There are some things we are aware of, but have little information about. On the other hand there are things we are not aware of, and have no information about.
Surely you know the difference between two and three? (Hint, it's "One") Be a good boy now, and off to class with you.
-Sik
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What rumsfeld said was poetic, what gayboy dowding said was not even though they said the same thing. :)
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Poetic!
Hehe.
There once was a man from the pentagon
Who's words often sounded like prattle on.
But the Generals ran the War
While his words hit the floor
Or else his big job would be long gone.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Poetic!
Hehe.
There once was a man from the pentagon
Who's words often sounded like prattle on.
But the Generals ran the War
While his words hit the floor
Or else his big job would be long gone.
Oh dear! I hope this isn't a new trend lol
-Sik
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BooHoo you're just upset at something else MT, really be honestv whats really bothering you old man... :D
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Now that's poetry! :D
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“A trained ape can know an awful lot
Of what is going on in this world,
Just by punching on his mouse
For a relatively modest cost!”
I won’t argue this.
However, after reading through these poems a horrifying question came to me:
Does the Secretary of Defense have launch code access?
:eek:
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Oh dear! I hope this isn't a new trend lol
-Sik
Rumsfeld inspired me.... :)
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a poor trite plagerism of:
1. THE EMBODIMENT OF TAO
Even the finest teaching is not the Tao itself.
Even the finest name is insufficient to define it.
Without words, the Tao can be experienced,
and without a name, it can be known.
To conduct one's life according to the Tao,
is to conduct one's life without regrets;
to realize that potential within oneself
which is of benefit to all.
Though words or names are not required
to live one's life this way,
to describe it, words and names are used,
that we might better clarify
the way of which we speak,
without confusing it with other ways
in which an individual might choose to live.
Through knowledge, intellectual thought and words,
the manifestations of the Tao are known,
but without such intellectual intent
we might experience the Tao itself.
Both knowledge and experience are real,
but reality has many forms,
which seem to cause complexity.
By using the means appropriate,
we extend ourselves beyond
the barriers of such complexity,
and so experience the Tao.
lou tsu rules.
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This is still falling short of the "version 1.11 haiku" thread. The AH poets need to get in gear.
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
a poor trite plagerism of:
1. THE EMBODIMENT OF TAO
Even the finest teaching is not the Tao itself.
Even the finest name is insufficient to define it.
Without words, the Tao can be experienced,
and without a name, it can be known.
To conduct one's life according to the Tao,
is to conduct one's life without regrets;
to realize that potential within oneself
which is of benefit to all.
Though words or names are not required
to live one's life this way,
to describe it, words and names are used,
that we might better clarify
the way of which we speak,
without confusing it with other ways
in which an individual might choose to live.
Through knowledge, intellectual thought and words,
the manifestations of the Tao are known,
but without such intellectual intent
we might experience the Tao itself.
Both knowledge and experience are real,
but reality has many forms,
which seem to cause complexity.
By using the means appropriate,
we extend ourselves beyond
the barriers of such complexity,
and so experience the Tao.
lou tsu rules.
That's a dreadful translation you've got your hands on there. Get Arthur Waley's version or something. Please.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
What's funny is that people keep bringing up that quote to show what a tard Rumsfeld is, and yet it makes perfect sense to me what he's trying to get across.
Guess I'm a tard too! :D
-- Todd/Leviathn
He may be a tard, but it's a very good and humorous explanation of the concept.
It's probably easier to appreciate if you have done some teaching. Explaining complicated ideas in simple language is an art form.
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Originally posted by funkedup
Explaining complicated ideas in simple language is an art form.
The Wrong way - Funked enjoys a spirited tumble through the marigolds with others of the same phenotype while exchanging seminal extrusions.
The Right Way - Funked is Gay.
Your right... it is an art.
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Are you trying to gain brownie points with the FDP's or something?
They just wish I was gay. I have a sexy body and they want me.
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Originally posted by funkedup
They just wish I was gay. I have a sexy body and they want me.
Like a bee trying to extract pollen from a sunflower.....
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"Like a bee trying to extract pollen from a sunflower....."
Is that some kind of bizzare sexual analogy?
I think you're some kind of deviated prevert, and I think General Ripper found out about your preversion, and that you were organizing some kind of mutiny of preverts.
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Originally posted by funkedup
"Like a bee trying to extract pollen from a sunflower....."
Is that some kind of bizzare sexual analogy?
I think you're some kind of deviated prevert, and I think General Ripper found out about your preversion, and that you were organizing some kind of mutiny of preverts.
Yep, we call ourselves "Terropervs" Alert color is Red.
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More like pink!
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i know what i know and i know what i don't know, but i don't always know everything i don't know and somethings i know might not be right but i know them anyway even if i don't know the are not right.
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"You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you're going, because you might not get there."
"I always thought that record would stand until it was broken."
"You should always go to other people's funerals; otherwise, they won't come to yours."
"I didn't really say everything I said."
"When you come to the fork in the road, take it"
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win."
Six quotes from the Yankee Zen Master Yogi Berra, a favorite philosopher, as an illustration that there can be several levels of wisdom within unplanned remarks.