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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on April 03, 2003, 05:12:13 PM
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NEW YORK — The controversy over a Columbia University assistant professor who called for the bloody defeat of U.S. troops in Iraq refuses to die, with critics heaping scorn and supporters saying he has gone into hiding after receiving numerous death threats.
A graduate student told the Columbia Spectator that Nicholas De Genova and his wife were "fearing for their lives" after receiving some 1,000 threatening phone and e-mail messages. The threats led De Genova to nix his two classes on Tuesday, according to the student newspaper.
De Genova told a campus "teach-in" last Wednesday that he wanted to see the U.S. defeated in Iraq and suffer "a million Mogadishus" — a reference to the 1993 Somalia ambush that left 18 Americans dead.
"The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military," he said at an anti-war event attended by students and faculty.
A school senior whose father is an Army colonel serving in Kuwait was among those who slammed De Genova's remarks.
"A Columbia professor wished death upon the father of a Columbia University student and possibly [on the parents of] other students," William Pratt told the New York Post, adding he was "appalled and devastated" by De Genova’s harsh remarks.
"What really pushes me over the edge is when a professor basically wishes for the slaughter of U.S. military men and women who gave him the right to free speech and to make those disgusting comments," Pratt told the Post.
University President Lee C. Bollinger released a statement distancing himself and the school from De Genova, who was apparently a last-minute add-on to the teach-in lineup.
"I am shocked that someone would make such statements. Because of the university’s tradition of academic freedom, I normally don’t comment about statements made by faculty members. However, this one crosses the line and I really feel the need to say something. I am especially saddened for the families of those whose lives are at risk," Bollinger said in his Friday statement.
The university has not publicly said if De Genova’s job as an assistant professor is in jeopardy over the scandal. De Genova does not have tenure.
Though most university officials and trustees declined to comment on the controversy when contacted by Fox News, one said he supported Bollinger’s statement.
"My mind turns with admiration to the deaths and wounds and countless other sacrifices suffered by tens of thousands of brave U.S. military people to establish and protect American rights of free speech ... even free speech as outrageous, insensitive, thoughtless and offensive as that reportedly uttered by Professor De Genova," said attorney Stephen Case.
Some students defended the professor. About two dozen of his students took part in a silent protest on Tuesday, as they sat quietly outside in the rain to show their support of De Genova and their displeasure with the university’s handling of the matter.
"We feel that the university has failed to protect Nick," anthropology grad student Ayca Cubukcu told the Spectator.
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he went into hiding? sounds like he's not a "true hero"
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LOL sounds like he's a PUD!
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Sounds like he is learning a lesson. I'd still like to squeakslap him.
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Not a big fan of the death threats, but I do respect the School's official response. It is rare to see something like that come from college administration.
MiniD
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How did this guy get out of the classroom alive? Anyhow, I don't think I'll be crying when they find him hanging from a tree with an American flag as a nuce. Hey, theres a good idea for a political cartoon!
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But death threats are over the top. They just should have started a letter writing campiegn to get his DUMB bellybutton fired.
What a jerk off.
I would not be upset in the least if some redneck caught him and beat he **** out of him though.
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lets send this guy to the *other* Colombia
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
But death threats are over the top...
Bull****.. you reap what you sow. Mouth can't backup words... keep mouth shut. Freedom of speech is not free my friend.
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death threats according to who? just because the guy is a clueless jerk dont make him stupid. if hes on everyones ahole list what better way to gain sympathy than say youve been threatened with death? sorry but i want a news crew to post the emails. i want to hear recordings of the phone threats. this guy claiming he fears for his life dont mean that he actually has reason to do so. besides if anyone really took him that serious theyd just up and kill him without bothering with a threat.
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Originally posted by Rasker
lets send this guy to the *other* Colombia
theyd kill him there pretty quickly. the people of colombia have great respect for their military and police because they seen the effect of evil men on innocents first hand. if he went to colombia and wished for victory by an enemy over the armed forces of colombia, hed be beaten to death in the street.
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Guess he's getting his own personal Mogadishu.
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Originally posted by Tumor
Bull****.. you reap what you sow. Mouth can't backup words... keep mouth shut. Freedom of speech is not free my friend.
I guess he let his alligator mouth overload his hummingbird ass; at least that is what we say here in the deep South when a handsomehunk makes a statement that he can't/won't back up.
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I sent him an email. Sure wasnt a death threat...but it told him to go chew a turd though.
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He's already requested that people do everything in their power to kill those that sent him death threaths and hate male... just to preserve his way of life.
MiniD
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AH BBS: 1
Idiot Prof: 0
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Originally posted by AdmRose
How did this guy get out of the classroom alive? Anyhow, I don't think I'll be crying when they find him hanging from a tree with an American flag as a nuce. Hey, theres a good idea for a political cartoon!
Whoo eeee!
Yea!
A Lynchin! Lets show the world what American Freedom is all about hey AdmRose?
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I would love to send him a email.
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A Lynchin! Lets show the world what American Freedom is all about hey AdmRose?
You hyper-liberals crack me up.
Why doesn't a call for the death of millions of loyal serving men and women and the call for the death of one panty-waist academic studmuffingot fall under the same blanket of freedom of speech?
If one is ok, then they are both ok.
Our little scholarly friend is simply experiencing a reflection of his OWN style of freedom of speech.
It should look familiar to him.
Wab
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Originally posted by AKWabbit
You hyper-liberals crack me up.
Why doesn't a call for the death of millions of loyal serving men and women and the call for the death of one panty-waist academic studmuffingot fall under the same blanket of freedom of speech?
If one is ok, then they are both ok.
Our little scholarly friend is simply experiencing a reflection of his OWN style of freedom of speech.
It should look familiar to him.
Wab
I agree. He lived in his ivory tower..had his little following of clueless ****tards telling him how great he was and thus he thought the rest of the USA would agree w/him. Guess what..most of the USA doesnt dwell in Ivory Towers.
Can you say... wake up call. I just hope he lives but his life is ruined. Whats gonna REALLLLY crack me up is when he's teaching a class somewhere and a vet of this war has one of his classes.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
I would love to send him a email.
Do a serach for "Columbia" or "Mogadishu" and youll find the thread with both his Email, and that of his Provost.
Send away.
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Originally posted by AKWabbit
You hyper-liberals crack me up.
Why doesn't a call for the death of millions of loyal serving men and women and the call for the death of one panty-waist academic studmuffingot fall under the same blanket of freedom of speech?
If one is ok, then they are both ok.
Our little scholarly friend is simply experiencing a reflection of his OWN style of freedom of speech.
It should look familiar to him.
Wab
Heheee!
So its not ok for the professor to spout his drivel but it is ok for AdmRose to spout his drivel but its not ok for me to spout....
I get it!
You hyper-liberals crack me up
I heard something the other day that seems to be ringing true....
The far left thinks everything they hate can be solved with a slogan...
The far right thinks everything they hate should be called a name...
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So its not ok for the professor to spout his drivel but it is ok for AdmRose to spout his drivel but its not ok for me to spout....
Are you claiming the inverse?
There are only two possibilites.
1. Both are appropriate
2. Neither is
Which is your answer?
Wab
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Just pointing out the hypocrisy of your post. I never said AdmRose shouldn't talk, I just ridiculed his point.
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Seems like you're squirming liberal.
Which is it?
I can only assume from your evasive statement that you feel both are valid protected forms of speech.
Am I correct?
Wab
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Originally posted by AKWabbit
Seems like you're squirming liberal.
Which is it?
I can only assume from your evasive statement that you feel both are valid protected forms of speech.
Am I correct?
Wab
Damn! You caught me supporting freedom of expression again! How can the rest of us be as insightful as you Wab?
Rush will be proud of you.
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The only real heros are those who shoot black civil rights leaders. I call for the death of 18 million nigggers!!! All niggrers must die now!!!!
MT Is this statement right? answer honestly is that stement right or is it wrong and evil?
I think thats the issue that seperates what that college profferos said and all the outrage at his comments.
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Damn! You caught me supporting freedom of expression again!
Just so we don't misunderstand your position:
The death threats against him and his call for the death of millions of loyal serving men and women are equally appropriate and protected examples of free speech.
Thanks for not disapointing me.
Wab
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
The only real heros are those who shoot black civil rights leaders. I call for the death of 18 million nigggers!!! All niggrers must die now!!!!
MT Is this statement right? answer honestly is that stement right or is it wrong and evil?
I think thats the issue that seperates what that college profferos said and all the outrage at his comments.
Your statement is idiotic. We would never know how idiotic it really is unless we allowed you to say it.
What exactly is your point?
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What a ****ing tool!!!
The tool speaks to defend himself (http://www.b2g3.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1049306981&user=cuconservatives)
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Answer my question MT.
Is that staement wrong and evil. YES or NO
Dont evade the question. Its very important that you answer honestly.
Is that staement wrong and evil? YES or NO
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GRUN...
Are you late for your valium?
I said it was idiotic.... think son.
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I hope this guy suffers a million Geoffry Dahmers.
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MT:
I'm not asking if you think it's idiotic, I'm asking if you think it's wrong and evil?
So again is it wrong and evil? YES or NO
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Well... hard to be idiotic and right.
Evil is another story. I don't think you are serious so I didn't see it as evil.
Why are you having a coronary over the semantics here. Whether it is evil or wrong or just stupid, the words will be seen for what they are only in the light of day.
In other words Grun... I would fight for the free speech rights of the KKK if they were to be threatened.
Does that lower your blood pressure any?
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But nobody threatened that guys free speech rights. They just excercized his their rights to criticize him...