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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Rasker on April 03, 2003, 11:47:42 PM
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(per Fox News) an Iraqi who saw her being abused, and walked 6 miles in great danger to find the nearest US forces!
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OMG LETS GIVE HER THE CONGRESIONAL MDAL OF HONRO!!!!11 :) :) )
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Ok, I'm gonna get my prettythang full of metal for this, but:
Yes, I'm glad Jessica Lynch is safe, but this incident is just gonna set the entire cause of women in combat back by 30 years. To break it down, she is a soldier and knew the risks when she joined. Capture is always a possibility when you're deployed to hostile territory. You don't see the media hounding the male POWs, do you? I say, we just breathe a sigh of relief, and get on with our lives. Don't be surprised if you don't hear much about women in combat for the rest of the Iraq campaign, though.
Just my two cents...*awaits the first flak burst in the posterior region*
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Originally posted by Rasker
(per Fox News) an Iraqi who saw her being abused, and walked 6 miles in great danger to find the nearest US forces!
Call me cynical, but this part of the story I didn't believe .
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unless something happened recently that I don't know about, there are no male POW's for the media to hound.
She's the only one they got back alive, so far, in a lucky break.
however, I agree, she was a POW she's been rescued, that's great, move on.
but the media will do whatever it thinks will give it the most ratings, and as we know, it has nothing to do with what the people watching want to see regarding this war.
I hope they leave her alone, I wish they'd quit being imbeciles but I doubt it'll happen.
btw that Iraqi walked that journey several times in risk of his own life (returning to get layout intel then returning once again to report what he knew), people have been killed for having any dealings with the Americans.
Not sure how much he's been covered considering what those people get when they show any small favor to us, it was a huge risk for him and his family.
he won't get much media I'm sure (or benefits), because he's Iraqi and non military = boring...it's a shame.
I him as well.
Originally posted by AdmRose
You don't see the media hounding the male POWs, do you?
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Call me cynical, but this part of the story I didn't believe .
lol
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If I ever met this guy, the beer would be on me. I hope they take good care of him. A true hero.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23979-2003Apr3.html
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Is it right she is only 19 years old - man thats really young (at least for me (sniff)? How can it come that a 19 year old can be send to a war but is not allowed to drink alcohol?
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Laws...?
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19 years old isn't that young for a soldier . The average age of the US serviceman in the Vietnam war was 19. Untill very recently you could join the military at 17. Some countries the minimum age is 16 .
What amazes me is how young the LTCs and COLs were in the US Army Air corps in WWII, 22-26 year olds. Heck I don't think you'll find a LTC nowadays that doesn't have head of gray hair and kids in college, or in the military .
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Originally posted by Duedel
Is it right she is only 19 years old - man thats really young (at least for me (sniff)? How can it come that a 19 year old can be send to a war but is not allowed to drink alcohol?
ahhh, yes but the legal age to drink here is 18...so I suppose she should drink here then...
Tronsky
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I posted earlier about Jessica Lynch and said she should not be in combat. I was wrong. This girl is 'hardcore' for a lack of a better term. Not only did she perform much better than her male counter-parts (by shooting/killing several Iraqis), she lived through the encounter.
I think General Patton would have been proud of her. She did not surrender, and was only captured after she had shot several Iraqis and exhausted her ammunition. I've heard reports that she was shot, and reports that she wasnt. Whatever the case, she was wounded (two broken legs, smashed arm, and no feeling in her feet).
But oh boy, is her dad ever a hillbilly...
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Originally posted by -tronski-
ahhh, yes but the legal age to drink here is 18...so I suppose she should drink here then...
Maybe in Australia but in the US in most? states its 21.
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Hard to believe that these ragheads can do anything right or honourable, eh Suave?
Check out Wulfie's old posts describing how Pakistani agents were putting their lives on the line to bring Al Queda suspects to justice. You might find it interesting.
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Originally posted by Duedel
How can it come that a 19 year old can be send to a war but is not allowed to drink alcohol?
you want soldiers to be drunk? ... makes it tough to hit the target.;)
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Originally posted by Duedel
Maybe in Australia but in the US in most? states its 21.
well no-ones perfect...
Tronsky
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Originally posted by Dowding
Hard to believe that these ragheads can do anything right or honourable, eh Suave?
Check out Wulfie's old posts describing how Pakistani agents were putting their lives on the line to bring Al Queda suspects to justice. You might find it interesting.
You idiot.
I meant "a hand written note delivered by an Iraqi witness" sounded like a cover story for humint resources .
You love the pulpit .
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With the sole purpose to help the Hijacking of thread I respecfully inform the readers that here you can have a beer in a Bar at 16 :p
But anyone helping a minor (age <18) to be drunk will have a lot of trouble ... (french laws are somewhat strange ...)
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/04/sprj.irq.pow.informer/index.html
Seem's legit enough. Then again everybody was saying she had bullet wounds too...
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The Iraqi who helped Jessica was a Lawyer...his wife was a nurse at the hospital....
he went to visit his wife.....alot of Fedayeen Saddam soldiers where there...he found that wierd...so he asked around...was told an american POW was there...he went to take a closer look....he found a Man slapping Jessica around in her room....then he heard someone mention cutting off her leg.....he couldn't let that continue....
he went on a search for the Americans....which he found 6 miles out of town....soldiers asked em details....so he went back to get em....IF THE FEDAYEEN FOUND OUT.....HE WOULDA BEEN SHOT.....he did risk his life...he is a HERO for Jessica.
later on he found out the FEDAYEEN went to his house and ransacked it....lucky he was in the US hands or bye bye..he'd be dead.
his name is Mohamed...last name unknown
a big to Mohamed....someone couragous enough to help a wounded soldier in need.
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Duedel,
she can drink.... on post... exp. At Fort Bliss Texas there were no constraints for drinking. If you had a military ID you could drink. In korea any post there you could drink... not to mention anywhere off post... Soju kettle anyone.....
And cheap too in Korea they try to keep morale up so you could by a 6 pack of American (piss water to any euro) for 2.50 and import for 3.00 dollars US... (I like Chimay myself. just for the record.)
A bottle of bacardi 151 and normal bacardi were both 8.00 per 750ml...(pricing error? I always bought 151.... 8P)
not bad...
Servicemen and women on post could drink... Thats how it was 8 years ago... may have changed but thats how it was...
2 cents..
DoctorYO
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You know, when I first read that she had 2 broken legs and a broken arm, the first thing that popped into my head was that the interrogators first broke 1 leg to try and get her to talk, then broke the other, then broke an arm, and was going to break the other arm, then start amputating parts. The other 11 maybe went through the same process individually, then were shot non-fatally, then executed, then the next one would be brought in and go through the process, and so forth, and Jessica just happened to be last in line. But maybe that's because I saw Al Pacino in "Scarface" back in the '80s...
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Originally posted by Suave
Call me cynical, but this part of the story I didn't believe .
Call me cynical, but I have a hard time taking someone seriously who's avatar suggest he is a big fan of female hair care and personal hygene products. ;)
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Im glad the lil girls alive and well and a Big
to the Iraqi that help tp save her.
but how that old joke go..........never trust anything that can bleed for a week and live!
lol in this case literally
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Originally posted by boxboy28
Im glad the lil girls alive and well and a Big to the Iraqi that help tp save her.
but how that old joke go..........never trust anything that can bleed for a week and live!
lol in this case literally
yeah, sorry to disagree, but I find that to just be in poor taste.
And it's rare I find anything to be in poor taste.
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mrs. rose... I hope you are righrt and it sets back women in combat 30 years. A hundred would be better.
I am glad she is safe. she is being touted as a hero. The man who risked the sadmans wrath and walked through "enemy" lines at night twice is a "hero".. the men who risked everything to get her out are heros.... she provided the opportunity for a lot of good men to be heros.
I like her... I think she is cute and probly brave... I don't think she shoulda been there in the first place.
lazs
not ready for heinliens brave new world (little mixing of authors) if it trys to shortcircut what is hardwired into humans.
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It was a Joke not saying anything about her Like i said shes a real trooper and hero! not to mention a cutie! Lord knows if it was me lying there bleeding for a week i would have been dead by day 2!
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Originally posted by AdmRose
Ok, I'm gonna get my prettythang full of metal for this, but:
Yes, I'm glad Jessica Lynch is safe, but this incident is just gonna set the entire cause of women in combat back by 30 years. To break it down, she is a soldier and knew the risks when she joined. Capture is always a possibility when you're deployed to hostile territory. You don't see the media hounding the male POWs, do you? I say, we just breathe a sigh of relief, and get on with our lives. Don't be surprised if you don't hear much about women in combat for the rest of the Iraq campaign, though.
Just my two cents...*awaits the first flak burst in the posterior region*
Huh?
Are there male pow's to hound? --- No!
Would there have been a rescue if she were a he? - Of course!
You have no point.. move along.
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I have to say, it did not take long for the military propagandists and media sensationlists to spin PFC Lynch into a 21st century Audie Murphy.
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Not to Hijack this thread again, but we had beer machines(like coke machines) in every barracks back in the day. It didn't ask for I.D. Anchor Steam buddy!
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Originally posted by DoctorYO
Duedel,
she can drink.... on post... exp. At Fort Bliss Texas there were no constraints for drinking. If you had a military ID you could drink. In korea any post there you could drink... not to mention anywhere off post... Soju kettle anyone.....
And cheap too in Korea they try to keep morale up so you could by a 6 pack of American (piss water to any euro) for 2.50 and import for 3.00 dollars US... (I like Chimay myself. just for the record.)
A bottle of bacardi 151 and normal bacardi were both 8.00 per 750ml...(pricing error? I always bought 151.... 8P)
not bad...
Servicemen and women on post could drink... Thats how it was 8 years ago... may have changed but thats how it was...
2 cents..
DoctorYO
Thx for explaining it
BTW "Piss Water" ROTFL thats exactly what germans call US (and mexican) beer, but its wrong - at least for a few really good pint of beer (cant recall the brand) i drunk in NY - and NO it wasnt Becks (brewed in my home town Bremen).
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Ya but your ships were dry!
Lynch has been through more than any of us here have been through I would guess and hope.
That muslim lawyer(eek!) showed more nuts and morality than any of us have ever given evidence of possessing I bet.
The troops that went in showed more skill than any of us can lay claim to with out alot of evidence.
The comanders that ordered it showed more faith in thier men and sence of the moral war then I had expected.
big win.
Salute all.
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Pongo...well said.
Plus you have the BEST avatar to date :)
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I am opposed to women in combat zones. However, when Playboy runs "The Girls Of Operation Iraqi Freedom" photospread I'll support our troops by buying that issue.
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So, we should keep the girls with nice hooters out of harms way?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
So, we should keep the girls with nice hooters out of harms way?
Uh....MT, I noticed the female POW they rescued was the hottie. The fat one is still a POW.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Uh....MT, I noticed the female POW they rescued was the hottie. The fat one is still a POW.
C'mon, at your age all 19 year olds are hotties!
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there are no male POW's for the media to hound.
Are there male pow's to hound? --- No!
Did everyone forget about the other female and the 3 male POWs that were shown on Iraqi tv? Or did something happen to them that I am unaware of?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
C'mon, at your age all 19 year olds are hotties!
LOL at my age all 19 year olds look like little kids. I prefer em over 30.
Anyway the issue is the emotional makeup of men vs. women. I feel like I'm an expert in this area as I was raised as a female the first 18 years of my life and still occasionally will cry for no reason.
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Originally posted by Elfie
Did everyone forget about the other female and the 3 male POWs that were shown on Iraqi tv? Or did something happen to them that I am unaware of?
No, they just can't be hounded by the media until they are rescued. I hope they get the chance :(
-Sik
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No, they just can't be hounded by the media until they are rescued.
ooops misunderstood things originally :o
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Originally posted by Elfie
Did everyone forget about the other female and the 3 male POWs that were shown on Iraqi tv? Or did something happen to them that I am unaware of?
I was wondering the same thing. They were all from the same unit as PFC Lynch. I'm wondering if the 2 bodies in the morgue and the 9 in the cemetary included the 5 on Iraqi tv.
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First off, I am *NOT* female, Rose is my last name, not my first. Second, there ARE male POWs, but when we do go and rescue them, we'll hear it mentioned on the evening news and nothing more. Third, would this Mohammed guy have done all this for a male soldier? Prolly not. I'm just saying this was blown way out of proportion.
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na what he did really cant be blown out of proportion.
saving a seviceperson should be wildly rewarded as it was in ww2, in cash preferably. medels and honors also there for a reason.
but i keep thinkin of thos other soldiers, are they alive?