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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Jackal1 on April 04, 2003, 06:55:51 PM
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OK, here`s the scoop. I was using Saitek X45 with analog CH pedals by using the workaround on Ron Hunt`s Saitek help page with no probs. (Win98SE)
I just got a new puter with XP . Hooking the X45 up USB and CH pedals to SB gameport I tryed various combinations by connecting an analog stick to my pedals and and assigning it as 2nd controller for rudders in game. ( This is suggested on Ron Hunt`s Saitek help page). I was getting some stick spike until I dowloaded and installed some CH drivers and setup the 2nd controller as a CH Flightstick for analog rudder use. Spike probs are cured but now i`m having problems getting my pedals to smooth out. I am experiencing wobble/bounce when applying pressure to the pedals. I have tryed adjusting deadbands/dampening at various settings. I can get some of the wobble/bounce out but not get it to the smoothness it should have. Any suggestions?
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I would try Calibrating the Pedals in Windows, then Calibrate them in AH.
Try a "V" configuration, meaning start at 100 and scale down to 50 or 60 than back to 100.
My Best,
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I`ll give the V configuration a whirl. Both setups calibrate fine in windows and AH. Thanks.
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Well.. that didn`t help either.
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Try a little more Deadband and Damping. This should take care of spikes the more Damping you put the slower the respones, but it should take out the spikes.
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Tryed every dampening/deadband setting I can. I got the spiking prob cured with driver change, it`s just too touchy(sensitive).
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Try to scale it a bit more like:
2,8,16,32,64,74,84,94,100 or so.
This isn't precise but you get the picture.
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Changed pedals to CH pro pedals and bypassed brake in calib,. no help.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Changed pedals to CH pro pedals and bypassed brake in calib,. no help.
You can try my method of fixing things, like if something not working right in my house
Set pedals on a waist high bench--in my house that is the workbench I built and proceeded to store junk on, so first move all the crap on it, then whack the pedals several times with a hammer to loosen up any stubborn hinges or screws, so you may get a mushy feel at first, oh yeah--store away any additional screws or springs that have popped out in a small plastic container that you put in a place that you won't forget about, then blame the wife when you can't find it later.. then, set pedals on floor and do toe raises on them, this should even out the balance between them, unless like my brother you lean to the left cuz you got some weird thing going on with your back and your right knee bothers you so you put more pressure on your left leg, so you always look like the leaning tower of Pisa, if so then lean to the right as you do your toe raises,
now hook back up to the puter, and reset your calibration.
Then, on my keyboard it is set at a s d for rudder control, seems to make no difference as I position myself on your six and remove your left wing :)
NwBie
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ROFLMAO :D
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Feeling bad about hijacking your post lol
I do know that you probably are better off hooking the pedals up to your usb ports somehow with XP
Is there an adaptor available?
NwBie
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Originally posted by Nwbie
Feeling bad about hijacking your post lol
NwBie
You are not, quit lying. lmao
I got a simple gameport to USB adapter, but, I`m not sure how to get XP to recognize it. I`m having a little prob gettin any answers from our local mad scientist.( (S) not (k) to (u) mention (z) any (z) names (y). )
:D
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I did respond, but let's keep this one going.
Go to the Joystick screen in AH. Select the rudder in the axis dropdown list.
Move the pedals as smooth as possible full swing. Note the graph and see if the lines in the graph are nice and smooth or edgy.
If they are edgy, then play with the deadband and damping until you can get them smooth. If they simply will not smooth, then there is a good chance there is either some noise from a component in your computer filtering through, or the cable to the sticks/pedals is close to a power cord.
Gameports are a bit noisy to begine with and not as good as a USB port for sticks/pedals, but you should be able to get the sticks to work with minimal interference.
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Yea, you responded in saying you found the e-mails, but never answered the questions. lmao
Lines are smooth as silk. Like I said in the e-mails, there is no spiking in setup and calibration.
Now, since your here , is there a way to use the gameport to USB adapter? If so, how do I get XP to recognize it? It will not recognize it on it`s own.
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ECHO Echo echo echooooooo! Hmmmmm I`m here by myself again. lol
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Never used a gameport to USB adapter. Not sure what the software would have to do to make it work. I should think it would just be reconized like normal, but that may not be the case.
If you are not getting any spikes in the calibration, then I am more inclined to lean to damping being needed to be set higher. It could also be interrupts being shared by the sound card/gameport.
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OK. When trying the adapter it is not auto recognized by XP. Damping won`t cut it, I`ve tryed every imaginable setting.
Gameport I/O range =DC70 - DC77 SB Live I/O range DC40 - DC5F IRO 18.
The technical term may be SOL. :D
As I stated before setting the second controller up in Windows as either CH Flightstick Pro or CH Pedals is the only way I have found to stabilize it`s appearance in setup for Windows and AH. At one time you said to get rid of The CH software. I asked what you suggested setting the second controller up as. I`m still open to any suggestions. I have tryed many combos setting it up as a generic controller with no luck.
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Do not use the CH software to setup any mapping for the stick.
What you do is go into AH's Joystick selection and set each axis/mapping manually.
For example
1) Select the Joystick
2) Select the roll from the left control
3) Select the X-Axis from the right mapping
4) Press "Set Input".
Do the above for each axis/control/joystick.
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My stick is fine Skuzz, it`s the rudder pedals that have the prob.
Once again.....:D I`m using USB Saitek X45 stick, no probs there. The rudder pedals are gameport CH Pedals set up as a second controller.
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That was an example. You have to do that for every axis of all the input devices. Have you already done that?
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Yes.
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I've heard a grip that XP is the problem. That it doesn't handle controllers like previous versions. Also heard any fix has to be done through XP?
One other possible option? Saw a new(?) game card at CH Products some time back. May have been for 98se n such.
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So Skuzz, if not CH, then what do you suggest settig it up as?