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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: NUKE on April 05, 2003, 01:12:05 AM
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Been watching FOX news for past hour, pretty interesting footage from our troops inside Baghdad.
Reports are coming in that are saying we are about in the center of the city.
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Originally posted by NUKE
Been watching FOX news for past hour, pretty interesting footage from our troops inside Baghdad.
More American propaganda. I saw the Iraqi minister of information. The republican guard has the coalition trapped. The airport is a graveyard for american soldiers.
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nah that was yesterday's graveyard! The center of downtown Baghdad will be the Mother of All Graveyards!
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btw, would you buy a used car from that Information Minister? Ever seen a more dishonest-looking face? :) It's like even he knows it no longer matters if anyone believes him
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You have to admit, it must be a crappy job to have.
Standing up preaching victory, all the while listening for allied tank tracks outside.
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one of you should get a new sig :D thougt you were talking to yerself mart.
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Originally posted by Martlet
Standing up preaching victory, all the while listening for allied tank tracks outside.
He's probably no where near Baghdad, same with Saddam I'll bet.
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Originally posted by Moloch
one of you should get a new sig :D thougt you were talking to yerself mart.
Heh, I usually am.
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Originally posted by NUKE
Been watching FOX news for past hour, pretty interesting footage from our troops inside Baghdad.
Reports are coming in that are saying we are about in the center of the city.
All day long Russian TV reporters were running around Baghdad looking for American troops. I heard BBC team tried to find them too.
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Originally posted by NUKE
Been watching FOX news for past hour, pretty interesting footage from our troops inside Baghdad.
Reports are coming in that are saying we are about in the center of the city.
Nuke, I've been watching the slam dunk contest at the McDonald's All America High School basketball game. Riveting stuff.
Wake me when the war is over. :)
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lol if its fox. ill wait for secondary confirmation.
they find any more chemical weapons plants ? lol
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Originally posted by Boroda
All day long Russian TV reporters were running around Baghdad looking for American troops. I heard BBC team tried to find them too.
Wondering how many of those UN inspectors are Russian, that they couldn't find anything begins to make sense. Here's a tip, gopher's live in the "hole in the ground".
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Originally posted by AKIron
Wondering how many of those UN inspectors are Russian, that they couldn't find anything begins to make sense. Here's a tip, gopher's live in the "hole in the ground".
LOL, Amen.
BTW, Baroda, do you even play AH? What name do you use in game?
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
lol if its fox. ill wait for secondary confirmation.
they find any more chemical weapons plants ? lol
Did you see the footage?
Maybe you missed the military briefing confirming it a few hours later.
The footage was fascinating to me. Then again maybe what I saw was a huge fake city complete with roadsigns, highways, burning wreakage, gun battles, cars and trucks running suicide missions into US tanks and fighting vehicles and such.
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Originally posted by NUKE
Did you see the footage?
Maybe you missed the military briefing confirming it a few hours later.
The footage was fascinating to me. Then again maybe what I saw was a huge fake city complete with roadsigns, highways, burning wreakage, gun battles, cars and trucks running suicide missions into US tanks and fighting vehicles and such.
Nuke, why do you bother?
anti american's will denounce anything that portrays the US favorably.
There is absolutely no use. If you tell them it's light out, they shut their eyes and cry for proof. Idiots.
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Originally posted by Boroda
All day long Russian TV reporters were running around Baghdad looking for American troops. I heard BBC team tried to find them too. >>>>
a unit of the 3rd div made a "recon in force*" thru bagdad, and returned to the airport, US 1 tank damaged, 1 troop kia , 3 wounded, , iraq lost app. 1000 men and many T72's, BMP's ,arty, etc
* reconnaissance in force: is a probe to check out the enemy strength, position, etc. Unlike a regular recon patrol, recon in force does not avoid contact with the enemy and brings enough guns to fight with.
no recon patrol is desigened to take or hold ground, only to test the enemy defenses.
thats why your stupid russian TV could not find them.
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Originally posted by NUKE
Then again maybe what I saw was a huge fake city complete with roadsigns, highways, burning wreakage, gun battles, cars and trucks running suicide missions into US tanks and fighting vehicles and such.
Maybe they staged it on the moon, oh wait, that was faked too. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Martlet
LOL, Amen.
BTW, Baroda, do you even play AH? What name do you use in game?
No, I don't play AH. I said it many times before.
I play WB, but not at iEN servers. Use Google and try to find some things about Russian WB server. I am not going to advertise it here or post any links. Anyway I think you'll enjoy I-153 and Ki-27 :)
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Originally posted by Boroda
No, I don't play AH. I said it many times before.
I play WB, but not at iEN servers. Use Google and try to find some things about Russian WB server. I am not going to advertise it here or post any links. Anyway I think you'll enjoy I-153 and Ki-27 :)
You just come here to enlighten us with your witty propaganda?
Another reason this BBS should be for paying customers only.
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Oh...so you're one of those software stealers?
Figures.
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Armored column drove up a highway about to the center of mass of city then turned around near the bend in the tigris. Never left the highway. Shot up some vehicles, tracer fire obviosuly disabling the occupants. First actual killing I think Ive seen in this conflict. One of the landrovers appeared to turn arounf about 100 yrds out and was shot up as it fled. Didnt seem to be a threat but couldnt really tell. Oh well.......
Its called Freehost. Software theft, but hey Its Russia. What else could you hope for.
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it's just the latest reality tv show .... there really isn't even an Iraq- we made it up too ...
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I'm waiting to see The Info Minister, while in the middle of one of his enlightening speechs.
" There are NO american forces in baghdad".................a US soldier step behind him and say "Shows over buddy, come with us".
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hmmm ...
Bagdad is about 60 km diameter ... if the US soldier just entered Bagdad and if the Russian have done only 25km it's likely they don't meet no ?
Straffo
Masta da obvious ...
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Originally posted by Monk
I'm waiting to see The Info Minister, while in the middle of one of his enlightening speechs.
" There are NO american forces in baghdad".................a US soldier step behind him and say "Shows over buddy, come with us".
Its gonna happend, that fool has been setting himself up for it all along. I can just see him kicking and screamig about the latest glorious iraqi victores as a couple o marines are dragging him off to the paddy waggon.
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Originally posted by straffo
hmmm ...
Bagdad is about 60 km diameter ... if the US soldier just entered Bagdad and if the Russian have done only 25km it's likely they don't meet no ?
Straffo
Masta da obvious ...
I'm trying to understand what you are saying.
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Originally posted by straffo
hmmm ...
Bagdad is about 60 km diameter ... if the US soldier just entered Bagdad and if the Russian have done only 25km it's likely they don't meet no ?
Straffo
Masta da obvious ...
Straffo, you try so hard to hop on the anti american bandwagon that you often don't research the facts before you post.
If you had, you would have seen the track the US took in their path through bagdhad. This doesn't even bring into the equation the fact that a russian couldn't find his own arse with both hands.
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Originally posted by NUKE
I'm trying to understand what you are saying.
Did the Russians happen to run into Saddam in their travels through Baghdad? It's only 60 km in diameter you know.
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Originally posted by straffo
hmmm ...
Bagdad is about 60 km diameter ... if the US soldier just entered Bagdad and if the Russian have done only 25km it's likely they don't meet no ?
Straffo
Masta da obvious ...
If a US soldier entered Baghdad and Baghdad is 60 km in diameter, how long must a Russian reporter travel before he finds the US soldier assuming the Russian reporter has traversed 25 km?
LOL, sounds like an SAT question.
What a moron
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It's not anti-american it's mathematic ,after failing the History class you failed the math course to ?
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Originally posted by Martlet
Straffo, you try so hard to hop on the anti american bandwagon that you often don't research the facts before you post.
If you had, you would have seen the track the US took in their path through bagdhad. This doesn't even bring into the equation the fact that a russian couldn't find his own arse with both hands.
perhaps you are supposing that a Russian can drive straight ?
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Originally posted by straffo
perhaps you are supposing that a Russian can drive straight ?
Bottom line is that US troops entered Baghdad. What is your point Straffo?
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My point is this post :
Originally posted by Boroda
All day long Russian TV reporters were running around Baghdad looking for American troops. I heard BBC team tried to find them too.
can be equally true or false depending of your interpretation, or if you prefer you bias about the events.
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Originally posted by straffo
It's not anti-american it's mathematic ,after failing the History class you failed the math course to ?
mathmatic? Tell us the formula you used to prove that Russian reporters should have been able to find US troops in Baghdad.
I would like to use this formula to find Saddam.
How many square km is Baghdad? How many square km did the Russian reporters cover in the time period of the US incursion into Baghdad?
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That's the second time I expose some simple facts and your interpretation goes orbital ...
Were did I say the Russian made all their possible to find the US troop ?
I was just exposing the flaw of Boroda post I don't understand why you are picking me.
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Originally posted by straffo
That's the second time I expose some simple facts and your interpretation goes orbital ...
Were did I say the Russian made all their possible to find the US troop ?
I was just exposing the flaw of Boroda post I don't understand why you are picking me.
My apologies, I misunderstood what you had posted. Language barrier at it's best.
Sorry.
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Originally posted by straffo
That's the second time I expose some simple facts and your interpretation goes orbital ...
Were did I say the Russian made all their possible to find the US troop ?
I was just exposing the flaw of Boroda post I don't understand why you are picking me.
Sorry if I misunderstood your post. I was trying hard to understand what you were trying to say.
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Originally posted by straffo
hmmm ...
Bagdad is about 60 km diameter ... if the US soldier just entered Bagdad and if the Russian have done only 25km it's likely they don't meet no ?
Straffo
Masta da obvious ...
What I gathered from this is that you were implying that Russians should have encountered US soldiers. Am I worng here? It seems to me that you are doubting that US troops were in Baghdad based on the Russian Reporters not seeing them. Am I mistaken?
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No problem guys ,even in French I not allways easy to understand so you can imagine what happen when I translate :)
And btw my 1st post It's the proof that I shouldn't post after a short night with a bit to much alcool :p
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Originally posted by NUKE
What I gathered from this is that you were implying that Russians should have encountered US soldiers. Am I worng here? It seems to me that you are doubting that US troops were in Baghdad based on the Russian Reporters not seeing them. Am I mistaken?
I was implying exactly the "contraire" :)
But obviously I failed ...
I never doubted the US troop where in Bagdad
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Originally posted by straffo
I was implying exactly the "contraire" :)
But obviously I failed ...
I never doubted the US troop where in Bagdad
Ahh....
I appologize to you ( very much) then sir
By the way, I commend you for being able to communicate in more than your native language......I'm only able to attempt a little English :)
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np NUKE ;)
In fact the best flame war and mis-comprehension I've ever seen were on some french BBS :)
don't let the 2 year old play near your computer when typing a message :D
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All day long Russian TV reporters were running around Baghdad looking for American troops. I heard BBC team tried to find them too.
Perhaps our wayward comrades should just hop on the bus tour being offered by the iraqi info minister. Might answer alot of questions.
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Marching To Baghdad
(To the tune of Marching Through Georgia, with apologies to Henry Clay Work)
Bring the good ol' bugle, boys,
we'll sing another song,
Sing it with the spirit that
will start the world along,
Sing it as we used to sing it
50,000 strong;
While we were marching
to Baghdad.
CHORUS: Hurrah, hurrah,
we bring the jubilee!
Hurrah, hurrah,
the flag that makes you free!
So we sang the chorus
from Kuwait that's at the sea
While we were marching
to Baghdad!
How the Iraqis shouted
when they heard the joyful sound!
How the Baathists scrambled
which our Special Forces found!
How the aid and comfort
was distributed around
While we were marching
to Baghdad!--CHORUS
Yes, and there were Iraqi men
who wept with joyful tears
When they saw the honored flag
they had not seen for years.
Hardly could they be restrained
from breaking forth in cheers
While we were marching
to Baghdad!--CHORUS
"Franks' Coalition boys
will never leave the coast!"
So the saucy Saddam said,
and 'twas a handsome boast,
Had they not forgotten then
to reckon with the host
While we were marching
to Baghdad!--CHORUS
So we made a thoroughfare
for freedom and her train,
Sixty miles in latitude,
300 to the main.
Tyranny fled before us,
resistance was in vain
While we were marching
to Baghdad!--CHORUS
Flame away. ;)
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Originally posted by straffo
That's the second time I expose some simple facts and your interpretation goes orbital ...
I have to agree straffo , your comment was taken way out of context.
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Originally posted by Toad
Marching To Baghdad
(To the tune of Marching Through Georgia, with apologies to Henry Clay Work)
Flame away. ;)
Ahh Toad! this is a good song for baghdad? Are we raping pillaging and burning out civilians on the way? . "Marching Through Georgia," an upbeat tribute to General Sherman’s nightmarish 300-mile March to the Sea, is contrasted with images of the stark devastation he left behind. Ironically, it was Sherman--always sympathetic to the South and no friend to blacks--who delivered the event that saved Lincoln’s presidency, and probably the Union. The stunning finality of Atlanta's fall rocked public opinion on both sides to a degree we find it hard to imagine today. The hard finality of Sherman's treatment of Atlanta--and much of what was unlucky enough to lie between it and the sea--not only ended McClellan’s bright hopes to unseat Lincoln, but legitimized the strategy of "total war."
I was liking and respecting your posts before this drivel.
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Ah, I knew the Rebs would take offense. I was born in Florida, I think it was over States Rights.
But sometimes, you have to let it go and move on, eh?
It's a parody. Relax.
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Originally posted by Toad
Ah, I knew the Rebs would take offense. I was born in Florida, I think it was over States Rights.
But sometimes, you have to let it go and move on, eh?
It's a parody. Relax.
Well that song is pretty much reviled here in the south.
It just pisses me off :D
And its not a good analogy either imo.
But frankie say relax....
:cool:
btw I was born in Pensacola.
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Originally posted by Boroda
No, I don't play AH. I said it many times before.
I play WB, but not at iEN servers. Use Google and try to find some things about Russian WB server. I am not going to advertise it here or post any links. Anyway I think you'll enjoy I-153 and Ki-27 :)
Sounds like piracy to me.
http://planeta.terra.com.br/servicos/nicae/faq.htm
33. Is FH legal? Does it have anything to do with -ITMO-'s SUN-JAVA based server for WB v2.70?
Following below is a letter sent by iEN to the Russian Trade in USA. Afterwards you will find a sequence of comments and explanations from the FH team answering many questions you may have.
=================Original message text===============
Dear Mr. Akhrimenko,
I represent a U.S. based software company that develops state of the art software. Recently it was discovered that someone gained entry to our secure systems and obtained software with out permission. This software is now being run for profit on several internet servers located in Russia (Moscow) and Poland. This is clearly a violation of both Russian and U.S. copyright laws and a violation of international trademark laws. The parties who obtained the software make no attempt at hiding and in fact have tried to extort our company by offering to shut down the servers for a large sum of money. These parties are also freely
distributing the software throughout Europe, illegally. We respectfully plead with you to use common law and authority to put a stop to this immediately as our company is losing money each and every hour that passes. Below I provide information that I have so far.....please help! Please tell us what we can do...these servers must be shut down and possibly the thief's punished by law. These parties are also making denial of service attacks on U.S. based servers. Can you shut down while we debate the laws? Please advise.....Thank you.
Rich Roberts
732-840-8157
Our Company : Ientertainment
Software Pirated: Warbird's (TM)
Russian Servers : 212.1.224.39 which runs on internal net of ru.ti,
Tor Information NOC, Blg 9-2, New Basmannaya st., Moscow 107207 Russia.
Phone: +7 095 265 1072, email contact: noc@ti.ru.
195.208.34.5: Emnet-Fsu-2, Information and publishing
Department..Mathmatical Branch Russian Academy of Sciences, room 2012, Leninsky prosp., 32a, Moscow, Russia. Contact: Nikolai Repin...+7 095 938 1902, Email: repin@ips.ras.ru
Website: http://home.udmnet.ru/aike/
ISP: Udmurtian Republic Network
206 Karl Marx str, 426057 Izhevsk, Russia
Contact: Alexander S. Mesherjakov...+7 3412 510505..email: mas@izhcom.ru
Software Pirates Identified so far:
Pavel Pavlov....email address...tengrie@sky.chph.ras.ru
Alex Inozemcev....email : alex_1@udmnet.ru
Yuri Nikitin
Igor Borodin
Sergey Kogan
Sergey Hlupnov
Fedor Ashanin
==============End of original message text===========
FH comments:
(0.HITECH's team of developers quit IMOL and founded HTC with AcesHigh game. IEN (new names of IMOL) stagnated mmediately. They only managed to add F4F-3 (based on existing F4F-4) and buggy B-24 in two years after HiTech's quit.)
>Recently it was discovered that someone gained entry to our secure systems and obtained software with out permission.
1.Noone of FreeHost staff stole software sources from IEN's secured systems.
2.Finn -ITMO- analysed the game traffic and coded own server on SUN-JAVA. He offered his work to IMOL, and IMOL team offered him a job, but he refused to move to the US. Later, a new IEN team started some futile legal cases against him, and failed.
3.July'99, -ITMO- published the binaries of his server on AGW WB-forum. He allowed any reengineering of his JAVA codes.
4.Poland started to host WB2.70 using -ITMO-'s server, as well as other multiple short living WB-hosts appeared in the world.
5.-AIKE- analysed the game traffic separately from -ITMO- and send bug reports to IEN with ways to fix them for free. -AIKE- was also blamed by IEN. Then -AIKE- coded his own server on ANSI-C, and Sep'99 –IVAN-/--UF-- and BORODA hosted it in Moscow.
6.-AIKE- offered full sources of server, as well as YAK-1 and I-16 models, to IEN for free, and this offer was renounced by IEN.
>This software is now being run for profit on several internet servers located in Russia (Moscow) and Poland.
7.Nor Moscow host neither Polish host gained profit from hosting WB.
>This is clearly a violation of both Russian and U.S. copyright laws and a violation of international trademark laws.
8.WB client software is free for copying and use. IEN has not registered an exclusive right to host WB. No Russian laws were violated, and even a violation of any US laws still have to be proven.
9.Our community respects WarBirds™ and we all remember that HITECH and IMOL/ICI made it. No other duties required by © of IEN-WB client software.
10.FreeHost game is named FreeBeerds™, though it uses WarBirds client software (that is free, if you remember).
>The parties who obtained the software make no attempt at hiding...
11.Of course, because we are not criminals and obey the laws of our countries.
>... and in fact have tried to extort our company by offering to shut down the servers for a large sum of money.
12.-AIKE- offered $25000 to IEN wanting to buy and host a limited server, like the German WB server (for WB2.01) that existed for almost 3 years.
-AIKE-'s English is not perfect, but I saw that letter, and it could not be understood as if -AIKE- requested money from IEN.
>These parties are also freely distributing the software throughout Europe, illegally.
IEN distributes the software for free, and any distribution of the WB FE is limited only to IEN's EULA, that we obey.
13.-ITMO- and -AIKE- are authors of their software and have full rights to publish their own work. But -AIKE- doesn't publish his server.
>We respectfully plead with you to use common law and authority to put a stop to this immediately as our company is losing money each and every hour that passes.
14.They used any possible way to falsely accuse us of the crimes that we didn't commit, turned to calumniations and blatant lies to stop us and showed complete lack of common sense when we offered our research, channels and servers for free so they could improve their product.
15.Probably he is right, but free hosts took a very small part of IEN's community. About 50-100 players totally (by that time).
16.That time politics of FreeBeerds staff was to restrict information about FreeBeerds to minimise economical harm to IEN. Americans and other foreigners in Moscow host have come lead by own initiative, and may be conflicting with IEN personally. FreeBeerds is not responsible for them.
17.But after all the calumniations lies and nationalistic abuses we had from IEN we can say that now we are free from any moral obligations towards IEN. More to say: any cooperation is impossible before they will present an official withdrawal of any accusations and apologise for it in public.
>These parties are also making denial of service attacks on U.S. based servers.
14.Noone of FreeHost staff attacked IEN for DoS.
Finally, It is a nice example of their traditional policy of lies and false accusations.
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Originally posted by Boroda
No, I don't play AH. I said it many times before.
I play WB, but not at iEN servers. Use Google and try to find some things about Russian WB server. I am not going to advertise it here or post any links. Anyway I think you'll enjoy I-153 and Ki-27 :)
Do you play on WB freehost? Then come here and spew russian BS?
HT, do you still hate everybody that has anything to do with WB freehost? Is a buh by to boroda in order?
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Originally posted by Udie
Do you play on WB freehost? Then come here and spew russian BS?
HT, do you still hate everybody that has anything to do with WB freehost? Is a buh by to boroda in order?
SECONDED!
-Smut