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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Spivey on November 19, 2001, 02:51:00 AM
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Much as I like the complexity of the game, recent strat changes have made it quite absurd to jabo or fly bombers. Jabo pilots and bombers are primarily suicide missions now, and even if you are successful, by the time you land what you hit is FULLY REPLENISHED again making these missions pointless.
So what has happenned is very few pilots even loadout bombs anymore. The vast majority of people are furballing on the deck (cause that's where most dogfights end up. What we have now is an arcade game.
May I make a suggestion? First, resupply should not happen without human intenvention. Want convoys? Make a human launch them and possibly even pilot the convoys. It should COST something to resupply.
Also I do believe that if youtake off heavy, even after you lose the bombs it is affecting your airspeed. Is this right? I dunno.
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Alternativly, make the object of resupply the focus of your mission rather than another capture attempt.
We should be seeing flights of rocket carrying Tiffs train hunting with P-51's and Spits as top cover while every thing that moves gets blown up.
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Originally posted by Seeker:
We should be seeing flights of rocket carrying Tiffs train hunting with P-51's and Spits as top cover while every thing that moves gets blown up.
oooh! teamwork!
Tex
wonder if HT or Pyro thought of that? ;)
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Heh, 9./JG 54 has had some very succesful missions where we've loaded eggs, gone to a field, dropped the city and then protected the goon.
Or just jabo'd groundvehicles.
It can be done, but takes more coordination now.
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Originally posted by StSanta:
It can be done, but takes more coordination now.
<chicken run voice>
Bin go!
Tex
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"What we have now is an arcade game."
Versus what used to be in that one jabo/bomber was able to rape an airfield/base single handedly? AH has not been made into an arcade. IT's been saved from being one. What actually has transpired is some foreiegn concepts called "cooperation", "teamwork"
and "planning ahead" has finally been introduced to those who like to "fight the war" and "land grab" folks. It's part of the new "strat." And I for one am glad. Very glad. Now it is much harder for the "LonePorker" to fly over a base at 20k and destroy the fun for those flying and fighting below at 10k. It totally neuters the Pork'N auger dweeb. Those are the simpletons who fly a heavy P-38, F4U or P-47 to destroy hangars at a base in one suicidal dive.
Westy
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How about being able to grab a train or convoy when a base needs resupply?
I really want to blow up mathman in a train. Please Please Please?
If we knew a train was otw we could protect it too. It's a whole lot better than AI trains.
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OK STOP THE MADNESS!!!!
Year: 2003
Game : Aces High 6.5
new features: Absolutely the most complicated and timeconsuming train simulator ever made!!! YOu actually have to mine the coal load it on the train stoke the BOILER!!! for the fully realistic 3 HOURS!!!
DONT MISS IT!!!
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It seems most of the recent strat changes have been implimented with the goal of making 1 man JABO less effective. No longer can a single attack plane take down a vh, straff all ack and stay to vulch spawners until the C47 arrives. Bummer eh? That damn town!
So tell me, who things have been ruined for again? Please.
AKDejaVu
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"OK STOP THE MADNESS!!!!
Year: 2003
Game : Aces High 6.5
new features: Absolutely the most complicated and timeconsuming train simulator ever made!!! YOu actually have to mine the coal load it on the train stoke the BOILER!!! for the fully realistic 3 HOURS!!!
DONT MISS IT!!!"
LOL w/ Hazed
best post Iv'e seen in weeks.
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[ 11-19-2001: Message edited by: SunKing ]
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Originally posted by hazed-:
YOu actually have to mine the coal load it on the train stoke the BOILER!!! for the fully realistic 3 HOURS!!!
DONT MISS IT!!!
Wow, I wont have to buy MS Train Simulator.
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That a single JABO aircraft has minimal effect doesn't change the fact that it's still challenging and fun.
So what if it's harder to accomplish the objective and take down the field. Bring friends.
Isn't that the point?
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>>oooh! teamwork!
Tex wonder if HT or Pyro thought of that?<<
Yeah, the wizards of happiness ought to be responsible for when we have fun and enjoyment and how we have enjoyment in the game. :rolleyes:
Hehe, I understood your comment Texter, I thought I'd add a bit of my own sarcasm too ;)
This topic is a recycled version of so many others I've read in here :(
I just don't think any of it is true or accurate. Jabo and Buffing pointless? Jeez!
AH as an arcade game? The one constant about AH and any other sim would be that it takes all kinds to participate in em.
For myself, I try and enjoy myself whenever I go up. I sometimes load ordnance on an a/c and go to a hot area to lend some support. If I get shot down into the bargain, I at least try to make my eggs count. I usually get shot down after I rev back over the field once I drop my eggs and mix it up with nme pilits. I do this because I like to mix it up ;)
I spoze I could avoid dien by dropping my load and skeedaddling it back to base; sorta defeats the purpose if I'm flien a hi performance a/c though.
And unless I take a coupla gooneys and load supplies on em to resupply a base, that base stays porked; now whats so limiting about that? And that is a recent change but, I guess it aint good enough for some folks. Nope, I think Hi-Tech and company are just lagging behind in satisfying everybody's whims. :rolleyes:
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Then I figure I am the first and only pilot to be fully pleased by HT and company :D
Sure the planes don't fly the way I want them to but thats due almost entirely to my dweebish piloting skills.
Sure the hangars won't stay in one spot when I try to dive bomb them but I think that is just bad modelling on HT's part. Who ever heard of a hangar that moves on its own to avoid being hit by me :D
Aside from all these things I REALLY REALLY enjoy AH and plan to stay reagardless :)
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Yup me too :)
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Originally posted by Spivey:
[QB]Much as I like the complexity of the game, recent strat changes have made it quite absurd to jabo or fly bombers. Jabo pilots and bombers are primarily suicide missions now, and even if you are successful, by the time you land what you hit is FULLY REPLENISHED again making these missions pointless.
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Hmmm, then when the Damned flew our squad mission Sunday night and destroyed and captured A50 in less than 15 minutes without using a single bomb or bomber we must have been... what exactly? Exploiting a here to fore unknown bug? Playing in a time warp of some long replaced arena setting? Or perhaps you're just wrong? I know which way I'm bettin.
In fact what the new strat settings have brought about is the need for team work and the demise of the one man base capture. Milk runners everywhere lament this passing of the "good old days" when they could pick out an undefended base, pork it from 30K or pork and auger via jabo, then up a goon and capture it.
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Originally posted by Don:
Yup me too :)
btw-Hiya :)
Tex
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Hi Tex :) Been a while. We CAF came over here to AH about 6 months ago. We have taken our lickins in the MA as any good dweebs ought to, and are seeing the fruits of our labors. Gettin comfy and enjoying ourselves. Was a time not too long ago I/we were frustrated with AW/EA and were concerned about the best place for us to move to. We sent out pilits to other sims eg. WBz, AH and WW2 and did an evaluation, and so here we are; best move for us and no regrets :)
Cya up! <S>