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Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 05, 2003, 08:58:53 PM
This yoyo actually had the gall to state that internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII made sense. If that isn't scary enough, he heads the homeland security committee.

http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/politics/story/751093p-5438735c.html
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: john9001 on April 05, 2003, 09:54:57 PM
there was no sabotage on the west coast while the japanese/americans were in the camps, right or wrong it worked.

BTW some germans and italians on the east coast were put into camps during WW2.

i know you, you want to wait until something blows up , then you can whine , "why didn't they doooo something".."booosh knew about 9/11 , why didn't he doooo something"


sandman is a french/canadian wannabee.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 05, 2003, 10:00:27 PM
Nobody was ever interned merely for being a Japanese-American. I know you will knee-jerk automatically disagree with this statement, but it is true.  

Go ahead and take some time to research why you are wrong.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 05, 2003, 10:05:51 PM
Right... over 120,000 interned on the West Coast were all sympathetic to the Japanese cause... including the women, children, and elderly. All obviously threats to the security of the U.S.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 12:20:29 AM
No, try again. Who among Japanese Americans wasnt interned?
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: davidpt40 on April 06, 2003, 12:23:02 AM
The internment probably wasnt the best idea, but it was Japanese businessmen living in the U.S. who sold the Japanese the plans for the DC3.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 12:38:17 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
No, try again. Who among Japanese Americans wasnt interned?


Hmmm... those outside of Military District 1... possibly some Kibei... probably most Nisei.

What's the point?
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 01:12:59 AM
Just pointing out that most Japanese Americans were not interned...
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 01:21:04 AM
...but over 120,000 were interned simply because they were Japanese. Of those, 70% were U.S. citizens.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 01:33:47 AM
And more  than that were not, even though they were just as Japanese American as the rest.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Batz on April 06, 2003, 01:33:52 AM
Sounds like you found another cause........Man you liberals are busy folks.........
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 01:37:17 AM
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Originally posted by Batz
Sounds like you found another cause........Man you liberals are busy folks.........


Takes a lot of time trying to keep up with all the right wing nut jobs hell bent to shreck up my country. :D
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 01:39:30 AM
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Originally posted by Batz
Sounds like you found another cause........Man you liberals are busy folks.........


Well they gotta keep the focus off how nicely the war is going, remember they were telling us it was gonna be a disaster of historic proportions...
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 01:40:15 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Takes a lot of time trying to keep up with all the right wing nut jobs hell bent to shreck up my country. :D


Iraq?
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 01:40:19 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Well they gotta keep the focus off how nicely the war is going, remember they were telling us it was gonna be a disaster of historic proportions...


Don't count your oil barrels before they are refined. :)
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 01:41:37 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Iraq?


Iraq? I'm not the least bit worried about some tin pot dictator on the other side of the planet.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 01:41:39 AM
Yes we are going to steal all of it...  :rolleyes:
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 01:42:56 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Iraq? I'm not the least bit worried about some tin pot dictator on the other side of the planet.


Yea no way could a nutcase half way accross the world ever hurt the USA or kill thousands of Americans...
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 01:47:58 AM
That last nutcase didn't enjoy the misfortune of twelve years of sanctions and no fly zones. He was relatively free to do what he wanted. He also wasn't a power mad dictator that would do anything to remain in control of his country.

Not even the same thing.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 01:57:12 AM
Misfortune?   Interesting choice of words... Poor Saddam, GHWB and Clinton and then GWB bad bad...

Yes nothing half way accross the world ever cost americans anything...

WW1
WW2
Korea
Vietnam
Gulf War I
911
Gulf War II

No no trouble at all...  

And yes all of those are different, just different enough for you to make an bellybutton of yourself justifying your stupid staement that leaders on the other side of the planet dont affect americans.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 03:00:48 AM
Was there a point in there or were you just trying to be insulting?
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 03:08:24 AM
So when I point out 7 different cases where nutcase/dictatorial leaders have seriously influenced the USA and cause US deaths you sipmly pretend you did not see them?

Sad...
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 03:11:28 AM
And this justifies the internment of U.S. citizens?

Was that the point?
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 03:18:39 AM
Did I ever try to justify the internment? Nope, your imagination is working real hard. I just pointed out that a majorirt of Japanese Americans were never interned.

Or are you talking about the imaginary internmrent of arabs you want to see so bad right now?

Admit it Sandman nothing would make your day like the USa interning arabs now, you would love it - you and yours could whine about for the next 200 years whenever the USa went yto war..
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 03:24:48 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Did I ever try to justify the internment? Nope, your imagination is working real hard. I just pointed out that a majorirt of Japanese Americans were never interned.


And this is a relevant point in what way?


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Or are you talking about the imaginary internmrent of arabs you want to see so bad right now?


No.

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Admit it Sandman nothing would make your day like the USa interning arabs now, you would love it - you and yours could whine about for the next 200 years whenever the USa went yto war..


Hmmm... not sure what brought this on, but no.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 03:32:20 AM
You asked me:  

"And this justifies the internment of U.S. citizens? "

You arent that stupid are you?
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 03:35:22 AM
The majority of Japanese citizens in this country were not sent to internment camps.

Why does this matter? Does it make it any less wrong for the 120,000 that did go? Does it make our government less culpable?

You brought it up. What difference does it make?
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 03:43:49 AM
I was never arguing whether it was justified or not so your question is pointless...
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 03:47:39 AM
So... a pointless question regarding your pointless statement.

Great... we have that settled then.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 03:52:41 AM
Yes my statement was not central to the discussion about whther internment was justfied, it was just a tangent that developed into something else alltogther.  I did point out several times that I wasnt trying to argue or justfiy internment...
Title: Re: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Martlet on April 06, 2003, 04:33:07 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
This yoyo actually had the gall to state that internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII made sense. If that isn't scary enough, he heads the homeland security committee.

http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/politics/story/751093p-5438735c.html


You really need to get a job.  You just troll the net all day, looking for things to post and start crap.  I look forward to the day you are banned.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Nash on April 06, 2003, 04:48:27 AM
Banned? LOL.... Yeah. You started visiting the o'club, what.... 3 weeks ago right? Maybe you're a bit of a control freak, but you don't get to like each and every point of view here (or else). I don't think Skuzzy is going to look at a post about what some senator said a couple of days ago and consider banning anyone.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Martlet on April 06, 2003, 04:51:03 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
Banned? LOL.... Yeah. You started visiting the o'club, what.... 3 weeks ago right? Maybe you're a bit of a control freak, but you don't get to like each and every point of view here (or else). I don't think Skuzzy is going to look at a post about what some senator said a couple of days ago and consider banning anyone.


Never said that post was going to get him banned.  I did say there will come a time when skuzzy gets sick of the same people starting threads all the time for no purpose other than to troll.
Title: Re: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: SaburoS on April 06, 2003, 05:00:41 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
This yoyo actually had the gall to state that internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII made sense. If that isn't scary enough, he heads the homeland security committee.

http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/politics/story/751093p-5438735c.html


Seems we're going to see a lot more of Arab-Americans being detained. He needs to justify the actions.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Nash on April 06, 2003, 05:01:25 AM
You only think his post was a troll because you don't like the subject.

Others would disagree. Others may even think that a congressman who happens to head the subcommitee on Homeland Security and who thinks that the internment was a peachy thing is notable.... or at least worthy of discussion here on the O'club BBS.

Got something more worthy and less troll-like to post? Be my guest... I promise not to respond to the effect that I hope you get banned.
Title: Re: Re: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 06, 2003, 10:47:02 AM
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Seems we're going to see a lot more of Arab-Americans being detained. He needs to justify the actions.


Why will we see a lot more Arabs detained? Seems to me that is just something you are itching for...
Title: Re: Re: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 01:57:02 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
You really need to get a job.  You just troll the net all day, looking for things to post and start crap.  I look forward to the day you are banned.


I have a job. I work for the United States Navy.

I've also been banned before, but I'm still here. Get used to it.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Martlet on April 06, 2003, 02:04:26 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
I have a job. I work for the United States Navy.

I've also been banned before, but I'm still here. Get used to it.



Ahhhh, tax payers dollars at work.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 02:06:57 PM
Even in the government, we have weekends off. Your tax dollars have nothing to do with it.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Martlet on April 06, 2003, 02:08:01 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Even in the government, we have weekends off. Your tax dollars have nothing to do with it.



Ahh, so you aren't IN the navy, you just work for them.  I fully understand where you got your attitude now.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 02:10:33 PM
I doubt that. I spent ten years IN the Navy as well.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Martlet on April 06, 2003, 02:13:33 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
I doubt that. I spent ten years IN the Navy as well.


and now you're a cashier at the exchange.

Fitting position.

Change please?
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 02:16:08 PM
That's almost funny.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Martlet on April 06, 2003, 02:16:34 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
That's almost funny.


Truth hurts.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 02:19:08 PM
You're not nearly as smart as you think you are. How does that truth feel?
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Martlet on April 06, 2003, 02:20:43 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
You're not nearly as smart as you think you are. How does that truth feel?


even being not nearly as smart as I think, I'm still twice as smart as you.

Truth feels pretty good here.......how about there?

Can I get a price check?
Title: Re: Re: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: MrLars on April 06, 2003, 02:21:19 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
Yo I look forward to the day you are banned.


He's posting within the guidlines that HTC has put forth.

The fact that you don't like what he's saying isn't a reason to ban him.

I'll bet that you wish that ALL the war protesters could be  charged and tried for sedition.

Get a grip, dissent and being able to voice that dissent without undue retaliation from the government is what makes America the great nation that it is.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Sandman on April 06, 2003, 02:22:44 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
even being not nearly as smart as I think, I'm still twice as smart as you.

Truth feels pretty good here.......how about there?

Can I get a price check?


...and such a compelling argument too!

I give up.
Title: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: Airhead on April 06, 2003, 04:25:33 PM
Martlet, ya can't get banned for being a liberal. To get banned (without showing female breasts) ya need to launch into a personal attack against someone. Like you're doing against Sandman, for instance.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Another Great Republican - Howard Coble
Post by: SaburoS on April 07, 2003, 12:00:42 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Why will we see a lot more Arabs detained? Seems to me that is just something you are itching for...


...and you would be wrong.
Seems it is you that is itching for it. Why is it you need to make up statements and attribute it to others you disagree with? Why in the world would I be "itching" for more fellow Americans being detained without due process ESPECIALLY since my very posts are objecting to those anti-American actions?
Favor, actually read my statements before commenting on them as your reasoning/arguments/statements are getting very frustrating to have a logical discussion with.
I'm just waiting to see what else you'll now make up and attribute it to others that actually didn't make those statements.

BTW, based on statements and arguments made, it appears that it is you that is more itching for fellow Americans being detained without due process.