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Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: tk0329 on April 06, 2003, 03:11:33 PM
How about some  pros and cons of these 2 aircraft?
Thanks
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 06, 2003, 05:16:01 PM
Spitfire V is the more maneuverable of the two and also slower than the Mk IX.  The Spitfire V also has less firepower than the Spitfire Mk IX with only .303 caliber machine guns and 20mm Hispano cannons.  The Spitfire Mk IX is faster, not as maneuverable than the V model (but still pretty darn nimble) and has a better weapons package.  You can either load .303 caliber machine guns in addition to the 2x 20mm cannons or load up .50 caliber machine guns instead of the .303s.

In my opinion, out of the two, the Spitfire V is the more enjoyable one to fly.


ack-ack
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: WldThing on April 06, 2003, 05:17:21 PM
Id chose a Spit 9..Not many planes stick around in a fight so at least i might have a chance to catch em.
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Hap on April 08, 2003, 12:42:15 PM
what ack-ack said.  couldn't add a substantive thing.
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Soda on April 08, 2003, 01:47:09 PM
tk0329,
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-Soda
AH Trainer Corps
The Assassins.
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Ike 2K# on April 08, 2003, 02:59:52 PM
spit 9 is dweebier:D than 5
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: vorticon on April 08, 2003, 05:18:23 PM
spit 5 is good if you need manouverability but if you want a higher firepower with a pretty good manouverability and higher speed go for the spit 9

if firepower and manvourability are all that matter to you i suggest a hurri2c

if firepower and speed are all that matter then i suggest you try the mosquito...hard to beat 4x20mm hispano AND 4x .303 brownings
Title: Re: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Montezuma on April 08, 2003, 06:03:17 PM
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Originally posted by tk0329
How about some  pros and cons of these 2 aircraft?
Thanks


One important practical difference in the MA is that the V can easily whip a N1K2 in a turnfight but with a IX it is a closer battle.
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Soda on April 08, 2003, 07:08:26 PM
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V can easily whip a N1K2 in a turnfight


Can't say I agree.  I think the Spit V vs. N1K is a dead heat, depends who has the lightest configuration at the time and who had more E to start with.  The N1K can beat the Spit IX fairly handily, but again, I think the Spit's in general have better altitude performance and hold E better.

Interesting how a lot of the best Spit pilots actually fly the Spit V.  They know how to extract and maintain the energy they need and the extra power of the Spit IX is not as big a factor.  I found I actually made that graduation from Spit IX to Spit V when I flew it.  Barely missed the extra power since I improve my technique to make better use of what I had.

-Soda
AH Trainer Corps
The Assassins.
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: WldThing on April 08, 2003, 07:19:19 PM
Its all about the Pilot..But in my opinion ive had problems killing nikis with a Spit 9 low and slow.  I think Spit 5 would do better now easily but better.
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: RTR on April 08, 2003, 11:52:31 PM
If I am going to be over 15K I will take a SpitIX. (mountain climbing  Trinity).
Under 15K I take a spitV.
SpitIX is vastly superior to the V at altitude.
SpitV is a true knife fighter and does its best work at lower altitudes.
And as for N1K's,  well I hate'em, but hate'em a little less when I am in a SpittyV.
Now the hog....Aye! Thats the rub Mate!
Just my opinion of course.
Cheers,
RTR
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Ike 2K# on April 09, 2003, 12:06:09 AM
can spit 5 beat A6M2 at turn-fights?
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 09, 2003, 02:50:18 AM
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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
can spit 5 beat A6M2 at turn-fights?


Zero/Zekes are probably the best pure turn fighters in the game and probably the best, if not one of the best stall fighters in AH too.  


Ack-Ack
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Ike 2K# on April 09, 2003, 03:33:02 AM
Spit V feels like as if you are tossing around with Honda Civic Type-R around the Laguna Seca.
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Dead Man Flying on April 09, 2003, 03:49:18 AM
God made N1K2s especially for Spit V pilots.

In a co-E turnfight between two equally-skilled pilots, the Spit V easily outturns the N1K.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: SpinDoc1 on April 09, 2003, 08:24:45 AM
Todd,

Are you using flaps or trim adjustments when you outturn the N1k's? It seems every fight I get into, the N1k gets me. It is the bane of my AH existence! Thanks.
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: gofaster on April 09, 2003, 11:25:32 AM
Spit Vs will bring you more perks.  You're also less likely to black out and nose plant into the ground in a turnfight.

If you're going to fly a Spit IX, use the twin 20's and twin 50's package - better ballistics on the bullet stream.
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 09, 2003, 05:47:54 PM
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Originally posted by DaLadyzMon
Todd,

Are you using flaps or trim adjustments when you outturn the N1k's? It seems every fight I get into, the N1k gets me. It is the bane of my AH existence! Thanks.



You shouldn't have to use flaps to get the Spitfire V to turn tighter than a N1K2.  Only time I've ever used flaps in the Spitfire V is to aid in landing.


Ack-Ack
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Ike 2K# on April 09, 2003, 06:28:49 PM
can P-51Ds out-turn spit 5 when the P-51's flaps is set at 10 degress in speeds of 350mph?
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: WldThing on April 09, 2003, 06:48:18 PM
P-51 can almost out turn a Spit 5 at 250 MPH, with more than one flap .
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Ike 2K# on April 09, 2003, 08:06:52 PM
Watch out Spit V/IX drivers!!!!!!!!!

I WILL TEAR YOUR WINGS APART WITH MY 6 .50 CALS WHEN I TURN-FIGHT WITH MY FLAPS SET AT 10 DEGREES AT 300MPH!!!!!!!!:D
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: WldThing on April 09, 2003, 08:31:08 PM
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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
Watch out Spit V/IX drivers!!!!!!!!!

I WILL TEAR YOUR WINGS APART WITH MY 6 .50 CALS WHEN I TURN-FIGHT WITH MY FLAPS SET AT 10 DEGREES AT 300MPH!!!!!!!!:D


Thats the passion!  Feel it baby Feel it! :D ;)
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Dead Man Flying on April 09, 2003, 08:43:20 PM
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Originally posted by DaLadyzMon
Are you using flaps or trim adjustments when you outturn the N1k's? It seems every fight I get into, the N1k gets me. It is the bane of my AH existence! Thanks.


Flaps in a Spit V are a last resort sort of deal; I use them when hanging in the vertical for that little bit of extra tail standing power.  Otherwise they don't help in an actual turnfight.

I can't speak to trim adjustments, as I mostly just stick to combat trim in the Spit V.  Manual trimming can ease the workload in a situation where you're doing lots and very slow vertical movements, but it doesn't allow you turn any faster or better than combat trim in my experience.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Dead Man Flying on April 09, 2003, 09:04:22 PM
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Originally posted by WldThing
P-51 can almost out turn a Spit 5 at 250 MPH, with more than one flap .


The P-51 turns great at high speed with a notch of flaps, and without a doubt the Spit V's major weakness is its high speed turning ability.

Of course, the Spit's best move in a situation like that is to just hit the brakes and let the P-51 fly right on by.  

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: WldThing on April 09, 2003, 09:20:34 PM
Hitting the brakes would then give the P-51 more E..  Therefore p51 will control the fight from the point on, if he flies smart.
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Dead Man Flying on April 09, 2003, 09:47:29 PM
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Originally posted by WldThing
Hitting the brakes would then give the P-51 more E..  Therefore p51 will control the fight from the point on, if he flies smart.


A P-51 who isn't in a position to control a co-E, high speed fight with Spit V from the outset has some serious issues anyway.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: TheManx on April 09, 2003, 10:11:23 PM
Unless said P-51 decided it would be more fun to mix it up and risk losing the fight, than to ensure he'd win. I do that often, it breaks up the monotony.
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: Shane on April 09, 2003, 10:37:29 PM
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Originally posted by TheManx
Unless said P-51 decided it would be more fun to mix it up and risk losing the fight, than to ensure he'd win. I do that often, it breaks up the monotony.


i do it every single time.. no matter the plane i'm in.

:D
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: WldThing on April 09, 2003, 11:02:38 PM
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Originally posted by TheManx
Unless said P-51 decided it would be more fun to mix it up and risk losing the fight, than to ensure he'd win. I do that often, it breaks up the monotony.


Ya it does, i have developed alot of boredom over the last couple months and the only thing that keeps me intrested in the game is the challenge of going against a better suited plane for turn fighting.
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: loser on April 17, 2003, 10:35:39 AM
park the spits, fly the hurriIIC.
Title: Spits 5 or 9?
Post by: moot on April 17, 2003, 05:09:39 PM
IIC flies faster with cannons firing than full throttle forward..